Macbeth
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Vilham wrote:

if a kid attacks me im gunna lamp the little shit.
Deep down I'm kinda hoping a few little kids try to rob me one day.
unnamednewbie13
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tuckergustav wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:


That's some pretty rough logic and analysis you've got going on there.
Alright, explain why we see so much juvenile crime being committed by upper-middle-class kids? Oh wait.
Because parents have become more afraid of punishing their own children.  So, instead of being afraid of consequences, kids learn very early that they can get away with stuff if they make enough of a scene.  Because if a scene is made these days involving a parent and child, other people stick their noses in and throw the abuse card.  And it just so happens that a majority of middle-class parents are very concerned with the status quo.

It's not right, but it's what is happening.

Also, I can't imagine there could ever be a "standard" of parenting.  You can be as smart and rich and "prepared" as ever...but as soon as you take that baby home it is a big ol' whirlwind of mistakes.
Also, parents can be as doting, attentive or disciplinary as they want, but it's still not going to halt drug abuse and violence among youth. Sometimes, people have to suck it in and actually blame kids for what they do instead of everyone and everything else.
Ilocano
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UnkleRukus wrote:

How many of you have kids.
I have two boys.  One six, the other twelve. 

I just have to raise my voice ever so slightly, and order returns.  One time, my wife was at the door.  She could hear the commotions inside.  As she was jiggling the door, there was silence.  She got inside and asked why it got quiet.  The boys said, they thought it was me. It's not fear, it's respect and love.  The young one always tries to hide behind the door to surprise me.  They both readily come to me if needing comfort or understanding.  You just have to know how to raise them properly.  And yes, boys will be boys, but my boys know their bounderies.

When I tell them that they only have 1 hour of video gaming left for the night, and they counter with 2 hours, I bring it down to 30 minutes.  Yeah, that's how I negotiate.
UnkleRukus
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Frankly, if you have never tried to raise kids then you don't have a say in how others are raised (myself included.)
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
tuckergustav
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UnkleRukus wrote:

Frankly, if you have never tried to raise kids then you don't have a say in how others are raised (myself included.)
Frankly, even if you HAVE raised kids, you don't have a say in how others raise theirs...tbh.
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Ilocano
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tuckergustav wrote:

UnkleRukus wrote:

Frankly, if you have never tried to raise kids then you don't have a say in how others are raised (myself included.)
Frankly, even if you HAVE raised kids, you don't have a say in how others raise theirs...tbh.
Unless they affect my kids.  Some kid lays a hand on my kids, I return it ten fold.  I have zero tolerance for bullies.
UnkleRukus
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tuckergustav wrote:

UnkleRukus wrote:

Frankly, if you have never tried to raise kids then you don't have a say in how others are raised (myself included.)
Frankly, even if you HAVE raised kids, you don't have a say in how others raise theirs...tbh.
I meant people on BF2s, but you have a point too.
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
Macbeth
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I don't have kids and don't plan too but that doesn't mean I don't have the ability to tell an incompetent jackass of a parent from a saintly responsible one.

Don't be stupid guys.
13urnzz
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i don't have kids, it's why i log in here erryday . . .
UnkleRukus
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Macbeth wrote:

I don't have kids and don't plan too but that doesn't mean I don't have the ability to tell an incompetent jackass of a parent from a saintly responsible one.

Don't be stupid guys.
Not being stupid, I know I was a little prick when I was 4, always having tantrums in public places. Wasn't my parents fault, they did everything they could to get me to shut the fuck up including a smack upside the head.

If you don't know the full story then you have no say in the matter.

Last edited by UnkleRukus (2011-01-06 16:27:13)

If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
Ilocano
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burnzz wrote:

i don't have kids, it's why i log in here erryday . . .
Nonsense.   You are paid to surf BF2s.  Just like me.
tuckergustav
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UnkleRukus wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

I don't have kids and don't plan too but that doesn't mean I don't have the ability to tell an incompetent jackass of a parent from a saintly responsible one.

Don't be stupid guys.
Not being stupid, I know I was a little prick when I was 4, always having tantrums in public places. Wasn't my parents fault, they did everything they could to get me to shut the fuck up including a smack upside the head. If you don't know the full story then you have no say in the matter.
lol...smacks upside the head to a 4yr old...lulz.  Guaranteed quiet time then...

Was this a "I'm gonna give you something to cry about" moment?
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13urnzz
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heh, i'm home already. too bad bf2s isn't a subscription site - we'd lose 7/8's of the freeloaders
UnkleRukus
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tuckergustav wrote:

UnkleRukus wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

I don't have kids and don't plan too but that doesn't mean I don't have the ability to tell an incompetent jackass of a parent from a saintly responsible one.

Don't be stupid guys.
Not being stupid, I know I was a little prick when I was 4, always having tantrums in public places. Wasn't my parents fault, they did everything they could to get me to shut the fuck up including a smack upside the head. If you don't know the full story then you have no say in the matter.
lol...smacks upside the head to a 4yr old...lulz.  Guaranteed quiet time then...

Was this a "I'm gonna give you something to cry about" moment?
It was a long day of shopping and I was being a brat all day, so yeah pretty much.
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
Ilocano
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UnkleRukus wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

I don't have kids and don't plan too but that doesn't mean I don't have the ability to tell an incompetent jackass of a parent from a saintly responsible one.

Don't be stupid guys.
Not being stupid, I know I was a little prick when I was 4, always having tantrums in public places. Wasn't my parents fault, they did everything they could to get me to shut the fuck up including a smack upside the head.

If you don't know the full story then you have no say in the matter.
A smack in the head never worked for me.  But if they took away from you the things that you valued the most at the time, I'm sure that would have convinced you to behave.

Edit:  nevermind.  4 years old.  Nothing works on a 4 year old.
Macbeth
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UnkleRukus wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

I don't have kids and don't plan too but that doesn't mean I don't have the ability to tell an incompetent jackass of a parent from a saintly responsible one.

Don't be stupid guys.
Not being stupid, I know I was a little prick when I was 4, always having tantrums in public places. Wasn't my parents fault, they did everything they could to get me to shut the fuck up including a smack upside the head. If you don't know the full story then you have no say in the matter.
I'm not referring to the video or any other event, I'm referring to this post and train of logic.
Frankly, if you have never tried to raise kids then you don't have a say in how others are raised (myself included.)
Yeah there is a lot of subjectivity in life and all but after spending a bit of time observing a parent (longer than 5 minutes while they are out of course) and their style of parenting I can come to the conclusion of whether they are fuck ups or not.
Ilocano
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Macbeth wrote:

Yeah there is a lot of subjectivity in life and all but after spending a bit of time observing a parent (longer than 5 minutes while they are out of course) and their style of parenting I can come to the conclusion of whether they are fuck ups or not.
Examples please.
UnkleRukus
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Macbeth wrote:

UnkleRukus wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

I don't have kids and don't plan too but that doesn't mean I don't have the ability to tell an incompetent jackass of a parent from a saintly responsible one.

Don't be stupid guys.
Not being stupid, I know I was a little prick when I was 4, always having tantrums in public places. Wasn't my parents fault, they did everything they could to get me to shut the fuck up including a smack upside the head. If you don't know the full story then you have no say in the matter.
I'm not referring to the video or any other event, I'm referring to this post and train of logic.
Frankly, if you have never tried to raise kids then you don't have a say in how others are raised (myself included.)
Yeah there is a lot of subjectivity in life and all but after spending a bit of time observing a parent (longer than 5 minutes while they are out of course) and their style of parenting I can come to the conclusion of whether they are fuck ups or not.
I'm not gonna tell someone how to raise their own kids, that's my point, but I'm also saying don't judge a book by it's cover.
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
Hurricane2k9
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another fine example of youth that probably wouldn't be missed



lol @ whoever gave me my latest karma. u mad?

Last edited by Hurricane2k9 (2011-01-06 16:40:02)

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Hurricane2k9
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The survey also showed that a substantial number of jail inmates were unemployed, grew up in single-parent homes, were children of substance-abusing parents or guardians or were sexually or physically abused themselves.
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/press/PJI96.PR

Somewhat old but I doubt it has changed much.

also

Almost half of all inmates grew up in
single-family homes and about 12 percent had
lived in childhood homes without either
parent.  Almost a third said their parents or
guardians had abused alcohol or drugs.
Nearly half said a family member had been in
jail or prison.

Last edited by Hurricane2k9 (2011-01-06 16:51:37)

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Macbeth
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UnkleRukus wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

UnkleRukus wrote:

Not being stupid, I know I was a little prick when I was 4, always having tantrums in public places. Wasn't my parents fault, they did everything they could to get me to shut the fuck up including a smack upside the head. If you don't know the full story then you have no say in the matter.
I'm not referring to the video or any other event, I'm referring to this post and train of logic.
Frankly, if you have never tried to raise kids then you don't have a say in how others are raised (myself included.)
Yeah there is a lot of subjectivity in life and all but after spending a bit of time observing a parent (longer than 5 minutes while they are out of course) and their style of parenting I can come to the conclusion of whether they are fuck ups or not.
I'm not gonna tell someone how to raise their own kids, that's my point, but I'm also saying don't judge a book by it's cover.
I wouldn't base any my judgments on a small amount of events or situations. That's why I said.
after spending a bit of time observing
And I would tell someone if they are being shitty parents and how to improve their parenting. It's just a suggestion. Words you know.
AussieReaper
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Hurricane2k9 wrote:

The survey also showed that a substantial number of jail inmates were unemployed, grew up in single-parent homes, were children of substance-abusing parents or guardians or were sexually or physically abused themselves.
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/press/PJI96.PR

Somewhat old but I doubt it has changed much.

also

Almost half of all inmates grew up in
single-family homes and about 12 percent had
lived in childhood homes without either
parent.  Almost a third said their parents or
guardians had abused alcohol or drugs.
Nearly half said a family member had been in
jail or prison.
You idiot.

That means more than half of all in mates grew up in a home with both parents.
2/3 inmates had parents which did not abused alcohol or drugs.
More than half said they did not have a family member in jail or prison.

So if you want to have less chance of going to jail, what do you think is best? Ya git.
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Hurricane2k9
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I know that, they still make a substantial amount of criminals though. But I suppose as long as they're not the majority it's not an issue.

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Macbeth
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AussieReaper wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

The survey also showed that a substantial number of jail inmates were unemployed, grew up in single-parent homes, were children of substance-abusing parents or guardians or were sexually or physically abused themselves.
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/press/PJI96.PR

Somewhat old but I doubt it has changed much.

also

Almost half of all inmates grew up in
single-family homes and about 12 percent had
lived in childhood homes without either
parent.  Almost a third said their parents or
guardians had abused alcohol or drugs.
Nearly half said a family member had been in
jail or prison.
You idiot.

That means more than half of all in mates grew up in a home with both parents.
2/3 inmates had parents which did not abused alcohol or drugs.
More than half said they did not have a family member in jail or prison.

So if you want to have less chance of going to jail, what do you think is best? Ya git.
-_-

There are more children being raised in the U.S. with both parents than with a single. There are also more parents in the country who aren't drug abusers than there are drug addled parents. There are also more families with people not in prison then there are families with imprisoned relatives.

Their proportions prove that those things usually have negatives affects.
Lotta_Drool
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Ilocano wrote:

UnkleRukus wrote:

How many of you have kids.
I have two boys.  One six, the other twelve. 

I just have to raise my voice ever so slightly, and order returns.  One time, my wife was at the door.  She could hear the commotions inside.  As she was jiggling the door, there was silence.  She got inside and asked why it got quiet.  The boys said, they thought it was me. It's not fear, it's respect and love.  The young one always tries to hide behind the door to surprise me.  They both readily come to me if needing comfort or understanding.  You just have to know how to raise them properly.  And yes, boys will be boys, but my boys know their bounderies.

When I tell them that they only have 1 hour of video gaming left for the night, and they counter with 2 hours, I bring it down to 30 minutes.  Yeah, that's how I negotiate.
Mine are 9 and 13, I have no issues with them they are good kids with good grades in school and play sports.  I ultimately pick their friends though and they know who and what I won't tolerate them being around. 

What I always told them was " You hang around people you want to be like, hang around trash and you will be trash. Hang with successful people and you will be successful. "  Who they are around influences them.  When I am not that influence, I want to know who is.  You are a product of your environment MOSTLY, I have seen kids with good parenting turn out to be utter crap. 

Discipline: All kids are different.  Some need a wiping where others need a look.  My oldest responds well to reason and fears letting me or my wife down and is rarely punished by us because he doesn't do things wrong on purpose when he does.  My youngest will test the limits with lying and not obeying.  He, like me when I was a kid, will need a spanking from time to time.  I have a feeling he has the same problem with authority that I did growing up.

There is no manual for parenting because kids are all too different. As long as a parent cares about their kids and puts them ahead of themselves most kids will turn out good.  It is the parents that don't care and let their kids run on the streets all day or leave them at home unsupervised all day that turn out these punks.

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