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2012-01-11 20:10:24
rdx-fx
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Hurricane2k9 wrote:

true Jay. i think I get the intent of the EEOC's thing though. a guy who's mentally retarded handicapped might not be able to get a high school diploma but he can probably still do janitorial work. i'd rather he at least have a job like that than have him be totally dependent on welfare.

FEOS wrote:

People with mental/physical disabilities can still get diplomas/equivalencies. It's required, per the IDEA act (an implementation of ADA in schools--derp), which governs special education requirements. This is an example of one part of the government not knowing about existing laws/policies and not vetting their initiatives with other stakeholders before publishing them to prevent conflict.

Or, in other words: complete, utter, incompetence.
So, apparently, drooling idiots pushing legislation to help more drooling idiots get jobs.

Disclaimer: Not that I mean any offense to those with saliva production problems, or clinically diagnosed idiots, or the developmentally disabled, or the motivationally challenged, or those that are too sensitive to be bothered to finish high school, or ...

Fuckit.

Yeah, I do mean to be offensive.

High School is not hard.
All you have to do is show up, not eat all the paste by yourself (plays well with others), and not set the goddamned building on fire too many times.

Last edited by rdx-fx (2012-01-11 20:10:46)

2012-01-11 21:31:19
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
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The point I was making was that those with mental disabilities can (and do) get diplomas. Those who don't get diplomas aren't covered by ADA--they aren't disabled. They are just too lazy to do the bare minimum required to graduate. And that a department of our government should know that.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
2012-01-12 00:32:46
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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rdx-fx wrote:

So.. we're going to be forced to hire stupid, lazy, unmotivated people.. because it's a disability?
Race discrimination laws do that already
Fuck Israel
2012-01-12 21:29:45
Macbeth
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https://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2012/01/011112mt_urine2-800.jpg
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta has ordered a probe into a YouTube video that surfaced this week which shows a group of Marines gathered around the dead bodies of Taliban soldiers and peeing on them.
[ ] thread worthy

The obligatory outrage is on cue as usual. I'm not desensitized to stuff like that but I am a bit perplexed by the outcries that follow that occur every time something like this gets released.

From all the history books I have read I have come to understand that things like what occurred is more the norm than the exception. Every war from the beginning of time has featured much worse things than peeing on fallen combatants. It's practically a platitude to point that out. I just don't understand the surprise and repulsion people feel when they see this. We invaded and started a war. We are actively engaged in trying to control a plot of land somewhere by force. What the hell did you think was going to happen?!

/thoughts
2012-01-12 22:04:15
Cybargs
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2012-01-12 22:07:24
Macbeth
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For?
2012-01-12 22:26:41
Cybargs
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idk but theyre just trying to find the assholes who did it. should ask gs aboot this
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2012-01-13 00:39:13
AussieReaper
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hearts and minds are won like that.
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2012-01-13 00:59:22
Reciprocity
Member
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I'm guessing this kind of thing is fairly common to a greater or lesser degree.  Why would you record such a battlefield faux pas?  Especially while holding something as identifiable as a sniper rifle?
2012-01-13 03:47:14
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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Macbeth wrote:

From all the history books I have read I have come to understand that things like what occurred is more the norm than the exception. Every war from the beginning of time has featured much worse things than peeing on fallen combatants. It's practically a platitude to point that out. I just don't understand the surprise and repulsion people feel when they see this. We invaded and started a war. We are actively engaged in trying to control a plot of land somewhere by force.
/thoughts
Prior to the Geneva convention yes, since then no.
What the hell did you think was going to happen?!
Why do you expect 'the good guys' to commit atrocities, of which this is just one on many?

Much of the outrage is presumably because this will lead directly to the deaths of coalition troops, those marines might as well be pissing on the bodies of their fellow marines.
Fuck Israel
2012-01-13 05:06:14
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5742|London, England
Atrocity? A little perspective please. They just killed the dudes. They're dead. There's nothing worse they could do to them. Being peed on is not something they currently care about.

It's disrespectful, sure, but only because it violates the 'do unto others' policy we have. We respect their corpses so they respect ours, so the mothers back home can have a nice funeral

This ain't My Lai.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
2012-01-13 05:07:48
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6795|'Murka

Macbeth wrote:

We are actively engaged in trying to control a plot of land somewhere by force.
No. It's a counterinsurgency.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
2012-01-13 05:13:26
1stSFOD-Delta
Mike "The Spooge Gobbler" Morales
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AussieReaper wrote:

hearts and minds are won like that.
Hearts and minds scattered across the mountains from Hellfires.
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Baba Booey
2012-01-13 05:56:18
Macbeth
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FEOS wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

We are actively engaged in trying to control a plot of land somewhere by force.
No. It's a counterinsurgency.
I rather not argue semantics today.
2012-01-13 06:04:19
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6795|'Murka

Macbeth wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

We are actively engaged in trying to control a plot of land somewhere by force.
No. It's a counterinsurgency.
I rather not argue semantics today.
It's not semantics. The fact that you think it is (as well as your clear lack of understanding of historical context vis a vis the Geneva Convention and its impact on behavior in warfare) shows how little you understand the nature of the conflict, which is the root of your post.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
2012-01-13 06:09:12
Macbeth
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So we aren't propping up the Afghan government, which we created, by force? As far as historical context- you know the concept of total war was devised after the Geneva convention right?
2012-01-13 06:14:39
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
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Last time I checked, the current Afghan government was created by the Afghan people via elections, not instituted by the Coalition. You're about 6 years behind.

Which Geneva convention would you be referring to? There have been several. And I think the Mongols, Romans, et al, would disagree with your notion that the concept of total war did not exist prior to some dudes in suits gathering in Switzerland to sign some papers.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
2012-01-13 06:28:31
Macbeth
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FEOS wrote:

Last time I checked, the current Afghan government was created by the Afghan people via elections, not instituted by the Coalition. You're about 6 years behind.
O God, lol. Good one chief.


Which Geneva convention would you be referring to? There have been several. And I think the Mongols, Romans, et al, would disagree with your notion that the concept of total war did not exist prior to some dudes in suits gathering in Switzerland to sign some papers.
The original one from the 1860's. You aren't the only one here who knows about it. Total war as military doctrine came about after the GK. Hence why I said concept instead of practice.
2012-01-13 06:39:47
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6795|'Murka

Macbeth wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Last time I checked, the current Afghan government was created by the Afghan people via elections, not instituted by the Coalition. You're about 6 years behind.
O God, lol. Good one chief.
Read what you wrote--what I actually responded to.


Macbeth wrote:

Which Geneva convention would you be referring to? There have been several. And I think the Mongols, Romans, et al, would disagree with your notion that the concept of total war did not exist prior to some dudes in suits gathering in Switzerland to sign some papers.
The original one from the 1860's. You aren't the only one here who knows about it. Total war as military doctrine came about after the GK. Hence why I said concept instead of practice.
Of course. Nobody had a concept of total war when they were practicing it centuries before Ludendorff wrote his book. It takes that before it's real. It didn't exist before that.

Seriously. Think. Then post.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
2012-01-13 06:51:45
Macbeth
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Without our military there would have been no election. Without our military that government would not exist. You are being really obtuse.

Again I said the concept. In the academic sense which became part of published military policy.

You seem upset.
2012-01-13 07:02:54
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5742|London, England

FEOS wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Last time I checked, the current Afghan government was created by the Afghan people via elections, not instituted by the Coalition. You're about 6 years behind.
O God, lol. Good one chief.
Read what you wrote--what I actually responded to.


Macbeth wrote:

Which Geneva convention would you be referring to? There have been several. And I think the Mongols, Romans, et al, would disagree with your notion that the concept of total war did not exist prior to some dudes in suits gathering in Switzerland to sign some papers.
The original one from the 1860's. You aren't the only one here who knows about it. Total war as military doctrine came about after the GK. Hence why I said concept instead of practice.
Of course. Nobody had a concept of total war when they were practicing it centuries before Ludendorff wrote his book. It takes that before it's real. It didn't exist before that.

Seriously. Think. Then post.
Why are you arguing with a first year political science student?

He knows everything.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
2012-01-13 07:12:24
Macbeth
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First year? Funny coming from you Hegel expert.
2012-01-13 07:19:53
Macbeth
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http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 3#p3740663

Jay not knowing what he is talking about. It's only 10 AM too. Long day ahead.
2012-01-13 12:35:39
unnamednewbie13
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Jay wrote:

Atrocity? A little perspective please. They just killed the dudes. They're dead. There's nothing worse they could do to them. Being peed on is not something they currently care about.

It's disrespectful, sure, but only because it violates the 'do unto others' policy we have. We respect their corpses so they respect ours, so the mothers back home can have a nice funeral

This ain't My Lai.

Jay wrote:

Atrocity? A little perspective please. They just killed the dudes. They're dead.

Jay wrote:

A little perspective please. They just killed the dudes. They're dead.

Jay wrote:

They just killed the dudes. They're dead.

Jay wrote:

They just killed the dudes.

Jay wrote:

killed
qfft

"OH NO, PEEEEEE! Let's fuck someone's life over because they were trained to be violent and were relieving stress in a non-violent fashion!" Shit, that pee's probably washing dirt off.

I wouldn't have done it, but probably more because I don't want someone filming me taking a whiz than because I'd think it'd be worse than shooting people.
2012-01-13 12:45:58
Beduin
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human decency


read about it
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