13urnzz
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don't leave mad . . . just leave.
Uzique
dasein.
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http://www.economist.com/blogs/democrac … sostriches

IT STILL beggars belief to consider that the American government treats the Wikileaks trove of diplomatic cables as classified, making it is illegal for US officials who lack the proper security clearance to go online and read them—something any middling journalist or al-Qaeda operative can do. It actually sets up a situation whereby American diplomats must interact with foreign counterparts who may be better informed than they are.

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ghettoperson
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Surely they wouldn't ever try to prosecute someone over that though? That situation is a perfect example of why jury nullification exists.
eleven bravo
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your face is a nullification
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Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
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that's racist
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Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
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In Essex, England, Tracy St. Clair Pearce found a gang of "travelers" trespassing on her property and cutting down her trees for firewood. When she told them to leave, they allegedly threw stones at her and threatened to kill her and harm her animals. So she called the police. When the police finally arrived, they didn't do anything about the travelers, but they did seize a shotgun that St. Clair Pearce legally owns as a "sensible precaution."
http://reason.com/brickbat/2011/05/16/hard-traveling
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
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Wow, that's retarded.
Trotskygrad
бля
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gjjjjj poliiiice

that's british police for you
13urnzz
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Trump announces he will not run for president

https://img269.imageshack.us/img269/78/ap110511071539.jpg

who saw that coming?
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
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i was certain he wouldn't, but it's nice to know for sure
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FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
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burnzz wrote:

Trump announces he will not run for president

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/78/a … 071539.jpg

who saw that coming?
Um...everyone?
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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Did he ever announce that he would?
Fuck Israel
13urnzz
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California's 'Family Values' governor apparently started another family while married;

Schwarzenegger reveals he had child with staffer
13urnzz
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Israeli couple names their baby 'Like' after Facebook function
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5720|London, England

burnzz wrote:

Israeli couple names their baby 'Like' after Facebook function
American couple names their baby Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John after characters in a fictional travel guide.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|6064|College Park, MD
people name their kids Jay cos they know it rhymes with gay
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11 Bravo
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i know a lot of you rip on ryan but someone please prove to me that his budget proposal is NOT necessary.

as a side note...lol pelosi having so many exemptions from the health care law for uber rich people in her district.  lol repeal that stupid ass law.
eleven bravo
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11 Bravo wrote:

i know a lot of you rip on ryan but someone please prove to me that his budget proposal is NOT necessary.

as a side note...lol pelosi having so many exemptions from the health care law for uber rich people in her district.  lol repeal that stupid ass law.
lowering taxes for the extremely wealthy is the opposite of what needs to be done
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Macbeth
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I made a thread about how it sucked before. I could find it if you actually care to read it.

But in a nutshell- it eliminates medicaid as a federal program and gives it out to states as grants for them to use as they wish. Which is cool. It also turns medicare into a voucher program. So instead of getting health care coverage elderly instead get a coupon to cover some of the cost of private health insurance insurance. It saves a lot of money for the federal government but at the same time the program lowers taxes across the board. So we go from the very low taxes of the Bush tax cuts (35% top tier IIRC) to a new low of the Ryan tax cuts (25% top tier IIRC). It reduces taxes across the board but also removes reductions. Which has debatable consequences...   

I don't exactly have a problem with the changes to medicare and medicaid but I don't want to see taxes cut any lower. For anyone. We already have some of the lowest taxes in the world (personal) and his plan would just be setting us up for more structural deficits.
11 Bravo
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eleven:

i didnt say pick it apart as i do not agree with everything in it.  but how can anyone argue we dont need his bill compared to the others?  or lack of others,

Last edited by 11 Bravo (2011-05-17 08:42:16)

eleven bravo
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anything that drops the tax rate for the extremely rich while shifting the cost on to the lower classes is not necessary.

Last edited by eleven bravo (2011-05-17 08:43:13)

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Macbeth
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It won't get passed.
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5599|Cleveland, Ohio
without his plan we go broke since there is no real alternative.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5720|London, England

eleven bravo wrote:

anything that drops the tax rate for the extremely rich while shifting the cost on to the lower classes is not necessary.
Shifting the cost onto the lower classes? The lower classes don't pay any taxes at all. Why should the rich pay the bills of the poor? Ridiculous.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
eleven bravo
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we've been broke for decades.  thats just not true.  he wants to give the extremely rich a tax rate of 25% compared to the already low one it is now.  dropping taxes keeps the government from collecting revenue.   how is that supposed to make us less broke?
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