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you can always bail on a long show.
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Ive been watching Severance. It's an interesting show. Not quite a great show, but its got some moments that make me think a little about our existence and what it means to be human. It is slow as hell, and i find the occasional levity to be at odds with the overall serious, somber mood they are trying to create, but if I peer closely I think I can see what the show runners are trying to put down. The soundtrack/score is also pretty well done.

Im concerned that it's built up this heavy, existential end game that will ultimately fail really badly, but im intrigued to see what comes.

Some of the acting is stupidly over the top, but i think Jon Turturro and Adam Scott are great in it.
uziq
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looks like inane liberal entertainment par excellence.

it will end like Lost. a flan whose thin pastry walls collapse under the weight of its own ornamentation.
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I finally got around to Googling what "The White Lotus" is. Crazy how far HBO has fallen.
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unnamednewbie13
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not to be unfairly critical of productions worked on by many hundreds or thousands of people to entertain (for money), but from what heights are we talking? at the dropoff of a speedbump, or?

in wider context? literally, "home box office." weren't people watching its logo rotate on straight-to-vhs years and years ago? hbo knew what they were about since long before fm got a taste for awms.
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Lost 6/10

Mostly background noise. I can't watch TV anymore. It seemed like it was trying to say something. I don't know what. Never dull though.
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Dilbert_X
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The Dustbowl - Ken Burns documentary.
Really makes you think that maybe man-made climate change could happen.

The US and the Holocaust.

Key takeaways:
No-one wanted the jews living amongst them, not Russia, not Europe, not America, America did everything to keep them out.
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Christianity is fundamentally antisemitic. Jewish people and Israelis know it. I feel that most Christians don't think about or acknowledge it.
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Well, Jesus rejected judaism and the jews betrayed and had him killed for it, its not hard to see why christians are peeved.
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uziq
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lol nice to see we are doing the classic anti-semitism as well as the alex jones conspiracy theory type too. you're versatile!

'the jeWz kiLleD jeSus'. check out the resident theologian over here.

jesus took exception to the arrogance and activities of the pharisees and sadducees, considering them perversions of a good and ethical religious life. they were the equivalent of the political suits or theocratic clerics who pervert and blight religions today. he basically was hounded by the year 5 BC version of AIPAC for criticising israel.

there were actually jews at the time and still surviving traditions within judaism today that accept jesus's claims to be the (or a) messiah figure. same as jesus's prophethood is acknowledged as islam.

i'm not saying all of this stuff isn't blatant gobbledigook, but making out that every jew today can't wait to backstab his christian neighbour because of the 'they killed jesus' libel is just so fucking funny. what is this, the 14th century?!

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this is the guy who's like "racism is 50 years done, get over it" talking about how actually it's not hard to get why someone harbors a 2000yo grudge conveniently leveled against jews (but not romans).

christianity has some navel-gazing to do on its own sins against others (and its own members).

see also: https://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_cou … te_en.html

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unnamednewbie13
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clarification on jesus rejecting judaism? let's see where dilbert goes with this.
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dilbert doesn't actually care about theological differences between christianity or judaism, or the history of organised religion and the atrocities committed in its name. he just seizes upon any old thing, pell mell, to justify his vicious hatred and personal hang-ups. definitely some jewish person wronged him or his family in the past. that's literally all there is. you don't need to invoke vatican documents. dilbert doesn't like jews just like he doesn't like seeing muslims around in his white suburb, and doesn't want to deal with indian taxi drivers for neighbours.
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Dilbert_X
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^ No thats the jews, the whole 'anti-semitism' thing having been invented for deflection, also stop being anti-dilbertic.

there were actually jews at the time and still surviving traditions within judaism today that accept jesus's claims to be the (or a) messiah figure. same as jesus's prophethood is acknowledged as islam.
Well that completely counterbalances them having the Romans crucify him on their behalf.

i'm not saying all of this stuff isn't blatant gobbledigook, but making out that every jew today can't wait to backstab his christian neighbour because of the 'they killed jesus' libel is just so fucking funny. what is this, the 14th century?!
Well 600 years is a long time.
But don't the jews still smart about something which happened 3,000 years ago, and hold an annual festival to celebrate the death of the children of those who did it to them?
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uziq
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you are a kook and a bore on this topic, and honestly i am not surprised by anything you have to say. your rabid anti-semitism tracks perfectly with the bitterness and misanthropy you express in so many other directions. when i picture a person who is 'all-in' on jew hate and conspiracy theories about the many-tentacled jewish beast, etc. etc. i picture exactly a stay-at-home loner in the suburbs.

"the jews still celebrate violent and unpleasant things that happened 3000 years ago". every culture on earth has origin myths and folk legends, lol ffs. the english burn an effigy of a catholic every single year. are we all rabid and committed anti-papists?

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Dilbert_X
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Yes, 'anti-semitism' is the problem, not a 120 year genocide, or that every single culture in history has mysteriously developed 'anti-semitism'.

What is good is that 'anti-semitism' has lost all meaning, its not an insult or something for people to be worried about any more, any more than anti-fascist would be taken as an insult.
Is a badge jews like to stick on people as the nazis stuck badges on people but I honestly believe the majority of people have seen through it now.
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erm, they can both be problems with very real consequences. the hatred that animates and enables horrendous crimes in gaza is the exact same sort of blinkered thinking that led to mass industrial death camps. both can be bad!

the whole problem with this 'debate' is that its participants almost gleefully assume such an extreme degree of polarisation. becoming a hateful anti-semite against all jews globally is not a good or wise response to the gaza situation, actually. i do not think it is constructive. not to mention tethered in reality or a truthful appraisal of the facts.

its not an insult or something for people to be worried about any more
erm, i think most right-thinking and respectable people would still regard being called anti-semitic as odious. just like being thought of as racist or misogynist. these are not appealing traits and nothing to be proud of. what people are impatient with is the rhetorical trick of defending israel or the zionist project with counter-claims of anti-semitism. that's been discussed to death and everyone is pretty well aware of it, yes. zionists have used up all the good faith in such arguments.

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I think people have finally twigged that 'anti-semitism' is has been thrown to deflect attention and is now more worn out than the race card.

The UN is anti-semitic
The Red Cross is anti-semitic
The International Court of Justice is anti-semitic
Fire is anti-semitic
Yeah OK
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but, the thing is, you are one of the examples that totally justify their claims. you really do spin outrage at what is happening in gaza into full-blown jew hate. you're doing the thing they cynically and manipulatively claim about fair-minded critics of israel!

do you really, honestly think that's helpful? i don't think the innocent children of palestine need the foamy-mouthed neo-nazi types running to their public defence.
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Yes, everyone who criticises Israel for slaughtering children is a nazi - whereas its the jews who have been the real nazis for a long time now.
Pointing this out doesn't justify any claim.
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well done at totally failing to read a very simple point.

99% of people shocked and horrified at israel's actions today can express that outrage and formulate their opposition without invoking 1400-year-old 'the jews killed christ' and 'the jews are the great evil threatening everything in the world' rhetoric. that's for kooks like you. which is my point. they are relying on the vocal minority of crankish neo-nazi-adjacent weirdos like you. you effectively give a smokescreen for their continued genocide because you conflate justified critique with hate speech.

why in the fuck does an avowed atheist and man of science need to even mention jesus or 3000-year-old foundation myths when he’s discussing modern israel, anyway?! nobody else feels the need to do that when reporting israel to the international courts. you are a total fucking weirdo.

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Dilbert_X
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On the other hand Israel is an exclusively jewish state, if this is how jews behave when they have numerical and military dominance its an indication of how they think in general.

need to even mention jesus or 3000-year-old foundation myths
Do I need to post the video of Netanyahu ranting about Amaleks again?
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just so ridiculously dumb and historically illiterate.

was apartheid south africa an example of 'how whites behave when they get their own colony'?

how about the history of prussia? wow, scary how whites act when they get 'military dominance!'

your ahistorical ranting, and your essentialising of 'the jews', is just the literal textbook definition of racism/discrimination. it is dumb, actually! you can criticise israel without needing to resort to these spurious, unhinged, irrational arguments!

Do I need to post the video of Netanyahu ranting about Amaleks again?
leaving aside the fact that people use rhetoric and metaphors when they talk, and granted that there are religious fundamentalists in this world (and a high concentration of them in present-day israel, certainly), you don't have to respond in kind to these arguments. frame them for what they are: a politico-religious ideology that needs to be debunked. ranting against the jews and using as a reason 'they killed jesus' is just ridiculous. you don't need to counter fundamentalism with fundamentalism, actually.

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My first girlfriend was Jewish. I can see myself wifing up a Jewish 6/10

https://oe1.orf.at/i/intro/05/a1/05a1e5e099c7cbc43531813ee94cfebd92e40711.jpg
Would totally adopt it as my identity.
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Eventually maybe we will even have a curly haired racially ambiguous Yid together.
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