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Forget Delaware too?Kmar wrote:
Couldn't be botheredunnamednewbie13 wrote:
I think you forgot to color half of Michigan.Kmar wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/e55Sw.jpg
I played for the State soccer team. .. I did a shit load of traveling playing soccer.
Been to all but two states on the continent.
again, cbb. I've been all up and down the east coast plenty. I have family in NY and we used to drive from fl there every other Christmas.
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That's a lame excuse. I live in Australia.DesertFox- wrote:
It doesn't help that the adjacent countries are Canada (no offense) and Mexico (offense). Travelling is expensive as balls.
Money is not a lame excuse. It's relative.
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I'm far from wealthy.Kmar wrote:
Money is not a lame excuse. It's relative.
If you budget and plan it is all very achievable.
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This, really.
I just fall more in the CBA to plan travel category, at least until I actually CAN ba.
I just fall more in the CBA to plan travel category, at least until I actually CAN ba.
Dude.. you're speaking for other people about their financial situation. I'm mean good for you, but you have no idea what others can and can't do with their money. He might be struggling to keep his lights on, put food on the table, or even just to stay in his home.Jaekus wrote:
I'm far from wealthy.Kmar wrote:
Money is not a lame excuse. It's relative.
If you budget and plan it is all very achievable.
That's why I said it's relative.
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Dawg Oregon has no sales tax cleaner air less people cheaper weed and only slightly more meth you def want to move here.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
cowami wrote:
hopefully i can turn washington or oregon, but preferably washington into a green sometime in three years
(Seriously though why would you prefer Washington?)
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If he's struggling to do that then travelling anywhere outside what is completely necessary becomes irrelevant.Kmar wrote:
Dude.. you're speaking for other people about their financial situation. I'm mean good for you, but you have no idea what others can and can't do with their money. He might be struggling to keep his lights on, put food on the table, or even just to stay in his home.Jaekus wrote:
I'm far from wealthy.Kmar wrote:
Money is not a lame excuse. It's relative.
If you budget and plan it is all very achievable.
That's why I said it's relative.
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Der, within reason, of course. But I do remember my family vacationing more when we had less money than when we had more money.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
This, really.
Still true. I can easily make time to cobble together some itineraries and put them into effect.I just fall more in the CBA to plan travel category, at least until I actually CAN ba.
Florida was the #1 most desirable place to move to in the states (based on growth rate) up until recently.. I mean real recently. There was a news story just yesterday about how it is no longer. I assume it's our economy being dragged down by the housing market.nukchebi0 wrote:
Dawg Oregon has no sales tax cleaner air less people cheaper weed and only slightly more meth you def want to move here.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
cowami wrote:
hopefully i can turn washington or oregon, but preferably washington into a green sometime in three years
(Seriously though why would you prefer Washington?)
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Priorities shift whenever there is an economic strain. Like it or not travel is a luxury. Money is certainly a valid excuse.Jaekus wrote:
If he's struggling to do that then travelling anywhere outside what is completely necessary becomes irrelevant.Kmar wrote:
Dude.. you're speaking for other people about their financial situation. I'm mean good for you, but you have no idea what others can and can't do with their money. He might be struggling to keep his lights on, put food on the table, or even just to stay in his home.Jaekus wrote:
I'm far from wealthy.
If you budget and plan it is all very achievable.
That's why I said it's relative.
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I thought it'd be best to differentiate between states I've walked in and states in which I've only been on the air side of security. Since there was no overlap between those states and ones I want to visit, the map worked out.

New York and New Jersey are both extremely tenuous, since the only times I've been in them have been trips to or from the airport, but I've stepped foot on the ground in both. Utah would not have qualified either if not for a delayed flight necessitating a overnight stay.

New York and New Jersey are both extremely tenuous, since the only times I've been in them have been trips to or from the airport, but I've stepped foot on the ground in both. Utah would not have qualified either if not for a delayed flight necessitating a overnight stay.
Of course. I'm not disagreeing there. What I am saying is if you really do want to travel it can be done.Kmar wrote:
Priorities shift whenever there is an economic strain. Like it or not travel is a luxury. Money is certainly a valid excuse.Jaekus wrote:
If he's struggling to do that then travelling anywhere outside what is completely necessary becomes irrelevant.Kmar wrote:
Dude.. you're speaking for other people about their financial situation. I'm mean good for you, but you have no idea what others can and can't do with their money. He might be struggling to keep his lights on, put food on the table, or even just to stay in his home.
That's why I said it's relative.
We all have these little luxuries in life, half the time we don't really think of them as such. A night out on the town, dinner with friends, buying a jacket or a pair of shoes you probably don't really need.
My point is, unless you are destitute or are struggling in a big way financially for the majority of your life, then at at some point in your life international travel is certainly not out of reach for the majority of people.
That probably had a lot to do with the sun and lack of income tax. It's extremely crowded now, isn't it? At any rate I was just comparing Oregon and Washington, since that was where Hurricane said he wanted to move.Kmar wrote:
Florida was the #1 most desirable place to move to in the states (based on growth rate) up until recently.. I mean real recently. There was a news story just yesterday about how it is no longer. I assume it's our economy being dragged down by the housing market.nukchebi0 wrote:
Dawg Oregon has no sales tax cleaner air less people cheaper weed and only slightly more meth you def want to move here.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
(Seriously though why would you prefer Washington?)
NY's a big state. My pops is from upstate which is pretty rural and slow. Mountains n shiz.nukchebi0 wrote:
I thought it'd be best to differentiate between states I've walked in and states in which I've only been on the air side of security. Since there was no overlap between those states and ones I want to visit, the map worked out.
http://static.bf2s.com/files/user/26506/US%20States.png
New York and New Jersey are both extremely tenuous, since the only times I've been in them have been trips to or from the airport, but I've stepped foot on the ground in both. Utah would not have qualified either if not for a delayed flight necessitating a overnight stay.

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WA has no income tax. OR has no sales tax. Move to southern WA border, shop in OR.
I would be interested in visiting that part of New York. It's funny to me how New York in colloquial use means the city and Long Island - it's a world apart from upstate. as it were, the extent of my exploration in New York has been midtown Manhattan and the various terminals of JFK.Kmar wrote:
NY's a big state. My pops is from upstate which is pretty rural and slow. Mountains n shiz.nukchebi0 wrote:
I thought it'd be best to differentiate between states I've walked in and states in which I've only been on the air side of security. Since there was no overlap between those states and ones I want to visit, the map worked out.
http://static.bf2s.com/files/user/26506/US%20States.png
New York and New Jersey are both extremely tenuous, since the only times I've been in them have been trips to or from the airport, but I've stepped foot on the ground in both. Utah would not have qualified either if not for a delayed flight necessitating a overnight stay.
http://i.imgur.com/BjO3w.jpg
Haha, I did forget about that. Too bad you'd be stuck living in Vancouver if you wanted any semblance of city living.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
WA has no income tax. OR has no sales tax. Move to southern WA border.
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nukchebi0 wrote:
That probably had a lot to do with the sun and lack of income tax. It's extremely crowded now, isn't it? At any rate I was just comparing Oregon and Washington, since that was where Hurricane said he wanted to move.Kmar wrote:
Florida was the #1 most desirable place to move to in the states (based on growth rate) up until recently.. I mean real recently. There was a news story just yesterday about how it is no longer. I assume it's our economy being dragged down by the housing market.nukchebi0 wrote:
Dawg Oregon has no sales tax cleaner air less people cheaper weed and only slightly more meth you def want to move here.
(Seriously though why would you prefer Washington?)

Top ten yea. We have lots of beaches though
You're not going to get 4 season though. .. and yes, no State income tax. Usually the county taxes are higher in the states with no income tax (sales/property).
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That's the Lake Placid area.nukchebi0 wrote:
I would be interested in visiting that part of New York. It's funny to me how New York in colloquial use means the city and Long Island - it's a world apart from upstate. as it were, the extent of my exploration in New York has been midtown Manhattan and the various terminals of JFK.Kmar wrote:
NY's a big state. My pops is from upstate which is pretty rural and slow. Mountains n shiz.nukchebi0 wrote:
I thought it'd be best to differentiate between states I've walked in and states in which I've only been on the air side of security. Since there was no overlap between those states and ones I want to visit, the map worked out.
http://static.bf2s.com/files/user/26506/US%20States.png
New York and New Jersey are both extremely tenuous, since the only times I've been in them have been trips to or from the airport, but I've stepped foot on the ground in both. Utah would not have qualified either if not for a delayed flight necessitating a overnight stay.
http://i.imgur.com/BjO3w.jpgHaha, I did forget about that. Too bad you'd be stuck living in Vancouver if you wanted any semblance of city living.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
WA has no income tax. OR has no sales tax. Move to southern WA border.
The same really goes for California really. It's a helluva lot more than beaches and LA.
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Said it'd be cheap; not ideal.nukchebi0 wrote:
Haha, I did forget about that. Too bad you'd be stuck living in Vancouver if you wanted any semblance of city living.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
WA has no income tax. OR has no sales tax. Move to southern WA border.
Tri-cities are growing too, so there's always that if you don't mind eastern WA.