Washington has British weather iirc.
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Where it counts (sorry, eastern WA ).
I have a friend that lives there.. and in a few hundred photos he has showed me I think the sun is out in two of them ..lol/
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It can get hotter and sunnier here (even in western WA) than you'd think. Been pretty wet this year, though. Google-image "Puyallup Fair" for some shocking bits of WA sun.
Well yeah, but you don't say California and instantly think of LA, as you do with New York in NYC. Moreover, the geographic location of NYC divorces it from the rest of the state, so to speak. That isn't the same for LA and California.Kmar wrote:
That's the Lake Placid area.nukchebi0 wrote:
I would be interested in visiting that part of New York. It's funny to me how New York in colloquial use means the city and Long Island - it's a world apart from upstate. as it were, the extent of my exploration in New York has been midtown Manhattan and the various terminals of JFK.Kmar wrote:
NY's a big state. My pops is from upstate which is pretty rural and slow. Mountains n shiz.
http://i.imgur.com/BjO3w.jpgHaha, I did forget about that. Too bad you'd be stuck living in Vancouver if you wanted any semblance of city living.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
WA has no income tax. OR has no sales tax. Move to southern WA border.
The same really goes for California really. It's a helluva lot more than beaches and LA.
I'd prefer eastern Washington, just as I prefer central Oregon. More sun, less rain, even more beautiful scenery and appreciable amounts of snow. It's not even a competition to me.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Said it'd be cheap; not ideal. tongue
Tri-cities are growing too, so there's always that if you don't mind eastern WA.
whoah not a chance.Kmar wrote:
Washington has British weather iirc.
southern england is pretty nice
in fact the southern most areas of england are pretty much med-temperate
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I've heard Brits themselves refer to overcast weather as typically British. However, I have been to the south of Britain, and I do remember seeing the sun.
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I'd say geographically there is great variety in CA. In fact CA probably has probably the most diverse climate and terrain of all of the states. Still, naturally because of TV shows and movies, most people generally think of just dry, hot, smog ridden LA.nukchebi0 wrote:
Well yeah, but you don't say California and instantly think of LA, as you do with New York in NYC. Moreover, the geographic location of NYC divorces it from the rest of the state, so to speak. That isn't the same for LA and California.Kmar wrote:
That's the Lake Placid area.nukchebi0 wrote:
I would be interested in visiting that part of New York. It's funny to me how New York in colloquial use means the city and Long Island - it's a world apart from upstate. as it were, the extent of my exploration in New York has been midtown Manhattan and the various terminals of JFK.
Haha, I did forget about that. Too bad you'd be stuck living in Vancouver if you wanted any semblance of city living.
The same really goes for California really. It's a helluva lot more than beaches and LA.
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California is unquestionably the most geographically diverse state in the US, which is helped by being the third largest. There definitely is a similar disconnect between LA and say, Northern California (the Shasta area, not "Norcal" i.e. the Bay Area), but the geographic divorce is not as stark as it is in New York.Kmar wrote:
I'd say geographically there is great variety in CA. In fact CA probably has probably the most diverse climate and terrain of all of the states. Still, naturally because of TV shows and movies, most people generally think of just dry, hot, smog ridden LA.nukchebi0 wrote:
Well yeah, but you don't say California and instantly think of LA, as you do with New York in NYC. Moreover, the geographic location of NYC divorces it from the rest of the state, so to speak. That isn't the same for LA and California.Kmar wrote:
That's the Lake Placid area.
The same really goes for California really. It's a helluva lot more than beaches and LA.
I disagree. I think it's a similar misunderstanding. You'd of thought having the winter Olympics in Lake Placid would have helped dispel the all urban perception in NY though.
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Lake Placid? Maybe everyone was expecting giant alligators like the movie.
I wasn't talking about the all-urban perception as much as New York feeling like two separate states, one comprised of the city/Long Island at the southern tip and the other of upstate New York. Even though California has a similar divide, the orientation of the cities and geographic diversity contained therein mean they don't seem like distinct worlds. California is best known for sprawling LA, but when you look at skyline picture of the city, you see snow capped mountains behind it. It's almost wierd for me to think of the city of New York as part of the state of New York, whereas that is not the case for LA and California.Kmar wrote:
I disagree. I think it's a similar misunderstanding. You'd of thought having the winter Olympics in Lake Placid would have helped dispel the all urban perception in NY though.
Well, that is what I was talking about. I see no other reason to think of NY as a seperate state. It's the 'mostly urban' general perception of NY, despite having it's own grand rural areas, that would make it seem as a separate state imo. The misconception in CA similarly has to do with geographic, economic, and even ethnic demographics that unfortunately also go unnoticed by those who have not experienced the entire state.nukchebi0 wrote:
I wasn't talking about the all-urban perception as much as New York feeling like two separate states, one comprised of the city/Long Island at the southern tip and the other of upstate New York. Even though California has a similar divide, the orientation of the cities and geographic diversity contained therein mean they don't seem like distinct worlds. California is best known for sprawling LA, but when you look at skyline picture of the city, you see snow capped mountains behind it. It's almost wierd for me to think of the city of New York as part of the state of New York, whereas that is not the case for LA and California.Kmar wrote:
I disagree. I think it's a similar misunderstanding. You'd of thought having the winter Olympics in Lake Placid would have helped dispel the all urban perception in NY though.
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It's not that New York is known mostly for being urban, it's that this urban area is isolated geographically from the rest of the state. That is not the case in California.Kmar wrote:
Well, that is what I was talking about. I see no other reason to think of NY as a seperate state. It's the 'mostly urban' general perception of NY, despite having it's own grand rural areas, that would make it seem as a separate state imo. The misconception in CA similarly has to do with geographic, economic, and even ethnic demographics that unfortunately also go unnoticed by those who have not experienced the entire state.nukchebi0 wrote:
I wasn't talking about the all-urban perception as much as New York feeling like two separate states, one comprised of the city/Long Island at the southern tip and the other of upstate New York. Even though California has a similar divide, the orientation of the cities and geographic diversity contained therein mean they don't seem like distinct worlds. California is best known for sprawling LA, but when you look at skyline picture of the city, you see snow capped mountains behind it. It's almost wierd for me to think of the city of New York as part of the state of New York, whereas that is not the case for LA and California.Kmar wrote:
I disagree. I think it's a similar misunderstanding. You'd of thought having the winter Olympics in Lake Placid would have helped dispel the all urban perception in NY though.
Let's be honest. Most people think of cities like San Fran and LA when they think of CA. I'd say geographically the city of LA is a considerably more different than other sections of the state.
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You're not going to try and plant this
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oh man those cliffs/rock faces look perfect for climbing
main reason I'd like to go to the US, place is full of great routes for rock climbing.
main reason I'd like to go to the US, place is full of great routes for rock climbing.
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I mean...Kmar wrote:
Let's be honest. Most people think of cities like San Fran and LA when they think of CA. I'd say geographically the city of LA is a considerably more different than other sections of the state.
You're not going to try and plant this
http://i.imgur.com/XOR91.jpg
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http://i.imgur.com/NTQvj.jpg
Obviously urban environments are different than natural terrain, so the geographic comparison in that sense is never going to yield similarities (except in Detroit because all of the city is decaying anyways). I'm simply discussing how we assess the location of the urbanized areas in relation to the rest of the state. By virtue of New York's state borders, the city of New York is situated at the extreme southern tip of the state and pinched off, so to speak, from the rest of it's territory. That is not the case with major Californian cities, which are clearly integrated into the mosaic of the state.
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It's great you posted those, just as I've locked away accom for Yosemite and am just looking at accom for SFKmar wrote:
Let's be honest. Most people think of cities like San Fran and LA when they think of CA. I'd say geographically the city of LA is a considerably more different than other sections of the state.
You're not going to try and plant this
http://i.imgur.com/XOR91.jpg
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http://i.imgur.com/NTQvj.jpg
Just made me a little more excited for this trip
I think you're missing the point. .. again, the city of LA is what most people think of. So if we are talking about what constitutes the idea of "a different state", nothing about the sprawling metropolitan of LA says Yosemite Valley. .. for example.
Cool photo you posted though. A rare find when it comes to illustrating the perception of LA air quality. I would say the name Los Angeles more likely conjures up the following image though.
Cool photo you posted though. A rare find when it comes to illustrating the perception of LA air quality. I would say the name Los Angeles more likely conjures up the following image though.
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I myself would love to camp in the Sierra Nevada. It's on my bucket list.Jaekus wrote:
It's great you posted those, just as I've locked away accom for Yosemite and am just looking at accom for SFKmar wrote:
Let's be honest. Most people think of cities like San Fran and LA when they think of CA. I'd say geographically the city of LA is a considerably more different than other sections of the state.
You're not going to try and plant this
http://i.imgur.com/XOR91.jpg
here
http://i.imgur.com/NTQvj.jpg
Just made me a little more excited for this trip
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Not really camping, just staying a night in Lee Vining and then two nights in Curry Village.
Would love to stay a week but we don't really have the time.
We will be driving from Reno to Yosemite via Lake Tahoe and Bodie State Reserve Historic Park so we'll at least get to see parts of the Sierra Nevada.
Would love to stay a week but we don't really have the time.
We will be driving from Reno to Yosemite via Lake Tahoe and Bodie State Reserve Historic Park so we'll at least get to see parts of the Sierra Nevada.
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Well, ever since I saw Les Stroud do it I've been committed ..lolJaekus wrote:
Not really camping, just staying a night in Lee Vining and then two nights in Curry Village.
Would love to stay a week but we don't really have the time.
We will be driving from Reno to Yosemite via Lake Tahoe and Bodie State Reserve Historic Park so we'll at least get to see parts of the Sierra Nevada.
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All I am trying to say is that New York city does not feel like it is in New York state, because the city itself is so geographically pinched off from the rest of the state. It reasonable to say that in the industrialized US "one" state is comprised of cities, farms, rivers, mountains, and so on, all the geographical features that combined to create a mosaic of the landscape. Despite the vast diversity in California's terrain, from sprawling cities to pristine national parks, it feels like one state because these elements are all arranged within a territorial contained that makes them seems continuous, even if not similar. In New York, this is not the case. The entire New York city metropolitan area is dangling from the rest of the state by the string that is the Hudson River. It's sole connection is by that lifeline; it is not a healthy piece of the fabric.Kmar wrote:
I think you're missing the point. .. again, the city of LA is what most people think of. So if we are talking about what constitutes the idea of "a different state", nothing about the sprawling metropolitan of LA says Yosemite Valley. .. for example.
When you say you are in LA, people think "Oh, he's in California" just as much as "Oh, he's in LA." When you say you are in New York, people think "Oh, he's in the city." What does that indicate?
Yeah, that photograph is beautiful, though I posted it to illustrate how close mountains were to LA, not to show that the air quality is sometimes liveable. I didn't even consider air quality when I selected it, haha.Cool photo you posted though. A rare find when it comes to illustrating the perception of LA air quality. I would say the name Los Angeles more likely conjures up the following image though.
http://i.imgur.com/YN8Dh.jpg
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I'd be open to visiting everything, really.
