Realistic knockback and damage are fine and dandy. What isn't is interface implementation that makes everything too jerky.
How do you mean only 1 side? Marines upgrade equipment and aliens evolve into stronger alien types. Both build new bases, resource collectors and turrets.War Man wrote:
Hmph, interesting.Era/setting doesn't matter much, although I do prefer sci-fi or near future with rts/fps hybrids. Yes I have, but 1 side is that way, not both, so it doesn't count.TimmmmaaaaH wrote:
Have you played Natural Selection War Man? It is not as huge as you want, but it has the commander building and upgrading thing. Is Sci-Fi Aliens vs Marines and not MODERN COMBAT though.
Glad I quit playing video games back in February.
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1 side gets commander, other doesn't. Aliens RTS/FPS falls into one of the categories of rts/fps hybrids I dislike.TimmmmaaaaH wrote:
How do you mean only 1 side? Marines upgrade equipment and aliens evolve into stronger alien types. Both build new bases, resource collectors and turrets.War Man wrote:
Hmph, interesting.Era/setting doesn't matter much, although I do prefer sci-fi or near future with rts/fps hybrids. Yes I have, but 1 side is that way, not both, so it doesn't count.TimmmmaaaaH wrote:
Have you played Natural Selection War Man? It is not as huge as you want, but it has the commander building and upgrading thing. Is Sci-Fi Aliens vs Marines and not MODERN COMBAT though.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Garden simulator 3d
That is because the gamers don't really know real realism. They think they do, but they don't. I don't mind realism, as long as they have the fun aspect. I don't find hardcore realism games to be realistic considering that you still are using the fucking mouse and keyboard. They are dull and boring.SEREMAKER wrote:
of course if this was ever placed in something like BF3 then everyone would be complaining that they wanted like it was where they run around take a few shots but they keep wanting more and more realism
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
If my bullets don't exit my opponent's monitor and actually hit him in the face then I'm not playing.
Fuck "realism" in games.
In a FPS, or even in a flight sim, "realism" is a unattainable fantasy.
Realism at the level of a professional soldier, professional pilot, or professional race car driver
-or-
realism, as defined by 90% of the gamer market, (12-32 year old civilian males, that go to work or school behind a desk)?
I'd rather the developers concentrate on good gameplay, balanced classes/sides, an enjoyable experience, and an intuitive interface.
In some part, having weapons/aircraft/cars that appear to behave in a realistic (intuitive) manner, contributes to all of the above.
To put it another way, do you want weapons/aircraft/cars that behave as they do in real life, or do you want them to behave like Hollywood special effects have trained the average gamer to believe they should behave?
In real life, the match is often over before the other side is aware that it even started.
In real life, teams are not balanced.
In real life, billions of dollars are spent developing "hacks" - it's commonly called an arms race.
In real life, there is no respawn.
... ad nauseam ...
Personally, if I want to go shoot, I turn off the damned PC and go shoot. If I want to go drive, I go drive.
In a FPS, or even in a flight sim, "realism" is a unattainable fantasy.
Realism at the level of a professional soldier, professional pilot, or professional race car driver
-or-
realism, as defined by 90% of the gamer market, (12-32 year old civilian males, that go to work or school behind a desk)?
I'd rather the developers concentrate on good gameplay, balanced classes/sides, an enjoyable experience, and an intuitive interface.
In some part, having weapons/aircraft/cars that appear to behave in a realistic (intuitive) manner, contributes to all of the above.
To put it another way, do you want weapons/aircraft/cars that behave as they do in real life, or do you want them to behave like Hollywood special effects have trained the average gamer to believe they should behave?
In real life, the match is often over before the other side is aware that it even started.
In real life, teams are not balanced.
In real life, billions of dollars are spent developing "hacks" - it's commonly called an arms race.
In real life, there is no respawn.
... ad nauseam ...
Personally, if I want to go shoot, I turn off the damned PC and go shoot. If I want to go drive, I go drive.
That's great. Better go hang up all your shooting and driving games.rdx-fx wrote:
Personally, if I want to go shoot, I turn off the damned PC and go shoot. If I want to go drive, I go drive.
did you not read the other 10 lines of his post, or what?
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Irony. Thought you'd be familiar with it after all this time on BF2S.
Gamers don't know realism, but I do. I'm a real life war man, I've been through shit.War Man wrote:
That is because the gamers don't really know real realism. They think they do, but they don't. I don't mind realism, as long as they have the fun aspect. I don't find hardcore realism games to be realistic considering that you still are using the fucking mouse and keyboard. They are dull and boring.SEREMAKER wrote:
of course if this was ever placed in something like BF3 then everyone would be complaining that they wanted like it was where they run around take a few shots but they keep wanting more and more realism
smells like it.
driving simulators are the shit yo.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
That's great. Better go hang up all your shooting and driving games.rdx-fx wrote:
Personally, if I want to go shoot, I turn off the damned PC and go shoot. If I want to go drive, I go drive.
most people dont really want "realism" look at how many play ARMA2, its a very very niche market.
Lol, I don't know realism either. Which is why I don't want games to concentrate on realism much, try to make it mainly fun.Miggle wrote:
Gamers don't know realism, but I do. I'm a real life war man, I've been through shit.War Man wrote:
That is because the gamers don't really know real realism. They think they do, but they don't. I don't mind realism, as long as they have the fun aspect. I don't find hardcore realism games to be realistic considering that you still are using the fucking mouse and keyboard. They are dull and boring.SEREMAKER wrote:
of course if this was ever placed in something like BF3 then everyone would be complaining that they wanted like it was where they run around take a few shots but they keep wanting more and more realism
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
I like to play these "simulator" style games because it allows you to try to get as close to doing the real thing, behind a computer, without actually doing it, due to various limitations like: I'm not in the military. I don't have the money to buy and tune a super awesome race car to drive on a track. Theres no way I would be allowed near a fighter jet to do stunts on. etc.
But yes, it's a very niche market, and it's probably better that way.
Also Tim/Cybargs is gay
But yes, it's a very niche market, and it's probably better that way.
Also Tim/Cybargs is gay
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I'd say some of that also has to do with the obscene learning curve and jerky controls than the fact that it's a realistic FPS.Cybargs wrote:
driving simulators are the shit yo.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
That's great. Better go hang up all your shooting and driving games.rdx-fx wrote:
Personally, if I want to go shoot, I turn off the damned PC and go shoot. If I want to go drive, I go drive.
most people dont really want "realism" look at how many play ARMA2, its a very very niche market.
I think we need to get away from realism.
Ditch the god-damn "everything must be brown" colour scheme. Add some crazy and fun mechanics.
A shooter based on the platforming mechanics of something like Ratchet and Clank would be awesome.
32 players on each side, double jumping through the air, jumping on those crazy 'roller-coaster' rails and sliding along them, firing insane guns, all in a bright, colourful and original environment.
'Realism' has been done to death for now, we need something new and fun, where no one cares about realism or the colour brown
Ditch the god-damn "everything must be brown" colour scheme. Add some crazy and fun mechanics.
A shooter based on the platforming mechanics of something like Ratchet and Clank would be awesome.
32 players on each side, double jumping through the air, jumping on those crazy 'roller-coaster' rails and sliding along them, firing insane guns, all in a bright, colourful and original environment.
'Realism' has been done to death for now, we need something new and fun, where no one cares about realism or the colour brown
that too. memorizing them is a bitch.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
I'd say some of that also has to do with the obscene learning curve and jerky controls than the fact that it's a realistic FPS.Cybargs wrote:
driving simulators are the shit yo.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
That's great. Better go hang up all your shooting and driving games.
most people dont really want "realism" look at how many play ARMA2, its a very very niche market.
We need Timesplitters.
it's called team fortress 2 and it's about 4 years old.bennisboy wrote:
I think we need to get away from realism.
Ditch the god-damn "everything must be brown" colour scheme. Add some crazy and fun mechanics.
A shooter based on the platforming mechanics of something like Ratchet and Clank would be awesome.
32 players on each side, double jumping through the air, jumping on those crazy 'roller-coaster' rails and sliding along them, firing insane guns, all in a bright, colourful and original environment.
'Realism' has been done to death for now, we need something new and fun, where no one cares about realism or the colour brown
the problem with it is that they over-did the crazy shit, way over the top.
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i dont like TF2, way to cartooony... cant deal with that crapUzique wrote:
it's called team fortress 2 and it's about 4 years old.bennisboy wrote:
I think we need to get away from realism.
Ditch the god-damn "everything must be brown" colour scheme. Add some crazy and fun mechanics.
A shooter based on the platforming mechanics of something like Ratchet and Clank would be awesome.
32 players on each side, double jumping through the air, jumping on those crazy 'roller-coaster' rails and sliding along them, firing insane guns, all in a bright, colourful and original environment.
'Realism' has been done to death for now, we need something new and fun, where no one cares about realism or the colour brown
the problem with it is that they over-did the crazy shit, way over the top.
if you want realism, enlist in the army or any of the armed forces.. lets see if anyone's COD skills/ videogame skills are any use in real life... stupid morons in this world.rdx-fx wrote:
Fuck "realism" in games.
In a FPS, or even in a flight sim, "realism" is a unattainable fantasy.
Realism at the level of a professional soldier, professional pilot, or professional race car driver
-or-
realism, as defined by 90% of the gamer market, (12-32 year old civilian males, that go to work or school behind a desk)?
I'd rather the developers concentrate on good gameplay, balanced classes/sides, an enjoyable experience, and an intuitive interface.
In some part, having weapons/aircraft/cars that appear to behave in a realistic (intuitive) manner, contributes to all of the above.
To put it another way, do you want weapons/aircraft/cars that behave as they do in real life, or do you want them to behave like Hollywood special effects have trained the average gamer to believe they should behave?
In real life, the match is often over before the other side is aware that it even started.
In real life, teams are not balanced.
In real life, billions of dollars are spent developing "hacks" - it's commonly called an arms race.
In real life, there is no respawn.
... ad nauseam ...
Personally, if I want to go shoot, I turn off the damned PC and go shoot. If I want to go drive, I go drive.
You calling other people morons is classic. You have no room to talk.ghostinvisiblex7 wrote:
if you want realism, enlist in the army or any of the armed forces.. lets see if anyone's COD skills/ videogame skills are any use in real life... stupid morons in this world.rdx-fx wrote:
Fuck "realism" in games.
In a FPS, or even in a flight sim, "realism" is a unattainable fantasy.
Realism at the level of a professional soldier, professional pilot, or professional race car driver
-or-
realism, as defined by 90% of the gamer market, (12-32 year old civilian males, that go to work or school behind a desk)?
I'd rather the developers concentrate on good gameplay, balanced classes/sides, an enjoyable experience, and an intuitive interface.
In some part, having weapons/aircraft/cars that appear to behave in a realistic (intuitive) manner, contributes to all of the above.
To put it another way, do you want weapons/aircraft/cars that behave as they do in real life, or do you want them to behave like Hollywood special effects have trained the average gamer to believe they should behave?
In real life, the match is often over before the other side is aware that it even started.
In real life, teams are not balanced.
In real life, billions of dollars are spent developing "hacks" - it's commonly called an arms race.
In real life, there is no respawn.
... ad nauseam ...
Personally, if I want to go shoot, I turn off the damned PC and go shoot. If I want to go drive, I go drive.
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If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
I played quite a bit of TF2, it was good and different, but I would like something which is more a hybrid of platforming and shooting, like Mirrors Edge but with large scale multiplayer... and not shit like brinkUzique wrote:
it's called team fortress 2 and it's about 4 years old.bennisboy wrote:
I think we need to get away from realism.
Ditch the god-damn "everything must be brown" colour scheme. Add some crazy and fun mechanics.
A shooter based on the platforming mechanics of something like Ratchet and Clank would be awesome.
32 players on each side, double jumping through the air, jumping on those crazy 'roller-coaster' rails and sliding along them, firing insane guns, all in a bright, colourful and original environment.
'Realism' has been done to death for now, we need something new and fun, where no one cares about realism or the colour brown
the problem with it is that they over-did the crazy shit, way over the top.