Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6856|132 and Bush

Engadget wrote:

When your server farm is in the hundreds of thousands and you're using cheap, off-the-shelf hard drives as your primary means of storage, you've probably got a a pretty damned good data set for looking at the health and failure patterns of hard drives. Google studied a hundred thousand SATA and PATA drives with between 80 and 400GB storage and 5400 to 7200rpm, and while unfortunately they didn't call out specific brands or models that had high failure rates, they did find a few interesting patterns in failing hard drives. One of those we thought was most intriguing was that drives often needed replacement for issues that SMART drive status polling didn't or couldn't determine, and 56% of failed drives did not raise any significant SMART flags (and that's interesting, of course, because SMART exists solely to survey hard drive health); other notable patterns showed that failure rates are indeed definitely correlated to drive manufacturer, model, and age; failure rates did not correspond to drive usage except in very young and old drives (i.e. heavy data "grinding" is not a significant factor in failure); and there is less correlation between drive temperature and failure rates than might have been expected, and drives that are cooled excessively actually fail more often than those running a little hot. Normally we'd recommend you go on ahead and read the document, but be ready for a seriously academic and scientific analysis.
Failure rates are known to be highly correlated with drive
models, manufacturers and vintages. Our results do
not contradict this fact. For example, Figure 2 changes
significantly when we normalize failure rates per each
drive model. Most age-related results are impacted by
drive vintages. However, in this paper, we do not show a
breakdown of drives per manufacturer, model, or vintage
due to the proprietary nature of these data.
From posted study link.
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Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|6994|Toronto | Canada

Shahter wrote:

Winston_Churchill wrote:

hard drive fanboyism is kinda silly.
it's not "fanboyism", really. my conclusions come from experience working with the number of drives that won't probably fit in your room at all.
cool.

my dad owns a data centre and computer hardware company which ive worked in - any of the techs working there will say that a brand itself means nothing, theyre all so similar at this point that its insignificant.  and they easily have thousands of hard drives there.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6856|132 and Bush

But do they have hundreds of thousands? ..lol

That study was 2007 though. Shitz always changing.
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Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|7030|Moscow, Russia

Winston_Churchill wrote:

Shahter wrote:

Winston_Churchill wrote:

hard drive fanboyism is kinda silly.
it's not "fanboyism", really. my conclusions come from experience working with the number of drives that won't probably fit in your room at all.
cool.

my dad owns a data centre and computer hardware company which ive worked in - any of the techs working there will say that a brand itself means nothing, theyre all so similar at this point that its insignificant.  and they easily have thousands of hard drives there.
my experience is different, but - and i mentioned this in my post - a lot of it comes from the past. things change.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
jsnipy
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+3,277|6777|...

Shahter wrote:

no, save me some time searching by posting a link?

on topic: i was using seagate drives almost exclusively at home for many years now. in the past it definitely was "seagate and everything else" on the market of hdd's, but, admittedly, seagate is getting worse by the year now.
Funny I have a 4GB Seagate drive from a computer bought in 97 and it still works. For me Maxtor has has the most failures, something like three drives lost. In the past 3 years I have not lost a drive out of the 11 drives bought.


Winston_Churchill wrote:

my dad owns a data centre and computer hardware company which ive worked in - any of the techs working there will say that a brand itself means nothing, theyre all so similar at this point that its insignificant.  and they easily have thousands of hard drives there.
Cool; doubt the data center uses drives the consumer channel
killer21
Because f*ck you that's why.
+400|6846|Reisterstown, MD

Kimmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:

i like the small western digital drives for portability(just a usb drive is needed)
my 2 tb lacie looks like it will withstand a fire but it's prolly just a show-case.. that's very heavy and stylish

i never install the software they come with. is that bad? i just 'plug and play' hehehehehehe
That's the one I have.  Runs great for backups or as a "mirrored" drive.

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