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2011-07-16 00:45:40
Jebus
Looking for my Scooper
+218|6019|Belgium
Hai guys.

I've had my current PC for about 5 years now, and only updated the RAM since then from 1GB to the 3GB and replaced the shitty GPU with something equally shitty (Radeon 4600 series).

Anyway, it could handle BF2 fine, but that's an old game. COD6 I have to play on quite low settings in order not to lag, but BFBC2 is pretty laggy.

Now I was wondering, I'm quite stoked for BF3, Guild Wars 3 and the new COD, but would it be smart to build a new system now? Those games are coming out around november-december I believe, so how much would prices of the parts have changed by then?

I'm on a quite tight budget, and I need a new screen too.. I have about €1.000 max. to spend on this PC(including screen..), what would you guys recommend for me? I'm looking for a PC that will last me a long long time, and be able to run those new games on quite nice settings.

Last edited by Jebus (2011-07-16 00:46:38)

2011-07-16 01:19:12
-Whiteroom-
Pineapplewhat
+572|6914|BC, Canada
what shop you buying from.

So far a higher budget is what I would recommend. When you say you are on a tight budget, but want a computer that will play things nicey nice for awhile to come, well, the two don't normally mesh up. Unless you get a damn good price.

Last edited by Nic (2011-07-16 01:21:29)

2011-07-16 01:20:22
Jebus
Looking for my Scooper
+218|6019|Belgium

Nic wrote:

what shop you buying from.
Haven't really decided on one yet.

I was actually thinking of going to a local PC shop around here, order the parts there and let them build the system. It will be quite a bit more expensive, but it will save me a lot of hassle, right?
2011-07-16 01:24:07
-Whiteroom-
Pineapplewhat
+572|6914|BC, Canada

Jebus wrote:

Nic wrote:

what shop you buying from.
Haven't really decided on one yet.

I was actually thinking of going to a local PC shop around here, order the parts there and let them build the system. It will be quite a bit more expensive, but it will save me a lot of hassle, right?
only save you a hassle if the online stores are totally incompetent and you are incapable of putting a computer together. I really can't recommend anything until I have some reference of what the prices are near you, so an online shop in your country will do, just for pricing.
2011-07-16 01:35:42
Jebus
Looking for my Scooper
+218|6019|Belgium
Hmm, okay.

Here's a few shops in my area, maybe these will give you an idea:
http://www.descom.be/configurator.php?m … mp;type=19
http://www.jaha.be/ccc.php
http://alternate.be/html/pcbuilder/circ … n=BUILDERS


All in Dutch, but you should be able to figure it out, I think
2011-07-16 01:44:07
Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
+1,027|6694|King Of The Islands

Intel 2500K
Gigabyte Z68-UD3R-B3
2x 4GB Kingston 1600 Hyper X
Gigabyte 6950 1GB

kgo.
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
2011-07-16 01:48:53
-Whiteroom-
Pineapplewhat
+572|6914|BC, Canada

Cheez wrote:

Intel 2500K
Gigabyte Z68-UD3R-B3
2x 4GB Kingston 1600 Hyper X
Gigabyte 6950 1GB

kgo.
naw, go with something with a UEFI bios instead of a gigabyte. An Asus will do.

Edit: I'll have a browse through those sights in the morning, a bit to tired to navigate a foreign site right now.

Last edited by Nic (2011-07-16 01:51:06)

2011-07-16 02:07:07
Jebus
Looking for my Scooper
+218|6019|Belgium
Thanks.


Still wondering though, do you guys think it's worth it to buy a new one now, or should I wait a few more months for lower prices/new hardware?

Or what about this one:
http://www.power4pc.be/webshop/accessoi … gpc07.html

Last edited by Jebus (2011-07-16 02:07:22)

2011-07-16 03:29:39
Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|7030|Moscow, Russia

Cheez wrote:

Intel 2500K
Gigabyte Z68-UD3R-B3
2x 4GB Kingston 1600 Hyper X
Gigabyte 6950 1GB

kgo.
only buy the above components if you plan to overclock. if you don't, then you don't need 2500k and hyper x memory.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
2011-07-16 04:08:19
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6404|'straya

Jebus wrote:

Thanks.


Still wondering though, do you guys think it's worth it to buy a new one now, or should I wait a few more months for lower prices/new hardware?

Or what about this one:
http://www.power4pc.be/webshop/accessoi … gpc07.html
If you can get away with waiting a couple months you might be better off. AMD might actually get their shit together and release Bulldozer which may completely change the CPU market/prices. That said, considering how fast the tech scene moves, don't wait forever. There will always be something new around the corner and you're always just going to have to take the plunge at some point

As for that pre-built, the first problem is that it is a pre-built. I have't checked out the exact components for comparison at euro prices, but building is generally cheaper. The specs of it are good, but chances are you could get a fair bit better by building yourself.

The list Cheez made is a good starting point (that said the brands of video card, mobo and RAM may be different depending on what the best deals are)

Last edited by Little BaBy JESUS (2011-07-16 04:08:55)

2011-07-16 04:19:11
Jebus
Looking for my Scooper
+218|6019|Belgium
Might wait it out a bit then. Main goal is BF3 really, so if I can get cheaper/better components in a few months, it might be worth the wait.

That said, I stated I was looking for a new screen too, nothing too expensive, just a nice screen. I found this one:

http://www.codima.be/product/2756/samsu … BS-EN.aspx

Samsung 22" S22A300B LED 16:9 1920x1080 5ms DSUB/DVI (LS22A300BS/EN)
21.5", €139 euros. What do you guys think?
2011-07-16 04:31:02
Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
+1,027|6694|King Of The Islands

Nic wrote:

Cheez wrote:

Intel 2500K
Gigabyte Z68-UD3R-B3
2x 4GB Kingston 1600 Hyper X
Gigabyte 6950 1GB

kgo.
naw, go with something with a UEFI bios instead of a gigabyte. An Asus will do.
You talkin' that fancy hi-res BIOS with a mouse?

It's got that, bro.
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
2011-07-31 08:22:28
Jebus
Looking for my Scooper
+218|6019|Belgium
I'm looking around on some PC-assembling sites from my neighbourhood, and now I have a few questions.

One site gives me the following choice: (http://www.power4pc.be/pc_configurator. … bieding=15)


        Asrock P67 Pro3 SE         84,00 €
    Asrock P67 Extreme4 v3         139,90 €

Would be combined with an 2500K, but which one should I take? I'm trying to stay on a budget, so I'm not really tempted to spend a lot more money for a marginal performance boost..

CPU Coolers:
Will I be fine with the stock cooler? I'm not planning on OC'ing as of yet, only when some applications are becoming laggy, I'd consider it.

RAM:

Kingston ValueRam or HyperX. The second one is a bit more expensive (not that much), runs at 1.65V instead of 1.5V and 1600mhz instead of 1333.

GPU:

No idea what to chose here:

PowerColor RADEON HD6790 (840 mhz, 1024 mb, DDR5, 4200 mhz, 256 bit, 11, fan)         116,07 €
    His RADEON HD6850 (775 mhz, 1024 mb, DDR5, 4000 mhz, 256 bit, 11, fan)         135,94 €
    Asus RADEON HD6870 DC (915 mhz, 1024 mb, DDR5, 4200 mhz, 256 bit, 11, fan)         155,26 €
    PowerColor RADEON HD6970 (880 mhz, 2048 mb, DDR5, 5500 mhz, 256 bit, 11, fan) 294,22 €

Last one is most likely too expensive for me.

HDD: Can't really go wrong here, I think?
Choice between Samsung and WD.. (went with WD cause of more space)

SSD:
Micron Crucial M4 (64gb, just for windows and some games)
2011-07-31 08:53:37
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5433|Sydney
Wait a bit, I expect prices to drop a little over the next few months.
Build it yourself. I know it sounds daunting if you haven't done it, but it isn't that hard. You come across as a reasonably smart guy, I'm sure you could do it. Just do some research and ask questions. But really, once you have the components together it's just a matter of hooking it all up. There is a bit of a process to it but it's not set in stone by any means.
2011-07-31 10:36:45
Jebus
Looking for my Scooper
+218|6019|Belgium

Jaekus wrote:

Wait a bit, I expect prices to drop a little over the next few months.
Build it yourself. I know it sounds daunting if you haven't done it, but it isn't that hard. You come across as a reasonably smart guy, I'm sure you could do it. Just do some research and ask questions. But really, once you have the components together it's just a matter of hooking it all up. There is a bit of a process to it but it's not set in stone by any means.
I've gotta admit that I am/was a bit 'scared' to build it myself. But now that I've thought about it, it can't be that exceptionally hard, right? I'll just have to be really careful when buying cables/extra fans/cooling paste/.., I guess.

I'll look around for a few guides to help me along the way.

The main reason I wanted to let the store build it, was because of the price of only €15. Would give me a better feeling of security when dealing with warranty too, I think.

Anyway, I'm still considering the two options. Building it myself wouldn't bind me to the options of that last site, though.
2011-07-31 10:40:14
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6755|so randum
im a total retard and i managed to build a pee cee. youll be fine. the instruction sheet thing that comes with your motherboard covers anything slightly daunting, the rest is obvious
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2011-07-31 15:02:53
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6404|'straya
Building it yourself will almost always get you better value for money.

Seriously, it is pretty damn simple. If you're prepared to invest a couple hours to do it (since it's your first build) then there is very little you can do wrong. Watch some videos on youtube and read a guide or two, then if you're ever unsure just consult the relevant manual.
2011-07-31 17:08:18
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5433|Sydney

Jebus wrote:

Jaekus wrote:

Wait a bit, I expect prices to drop a little over the next few months.
Build it yourself. I know it sounds daunting if you haven't done it, but it isn't that hard. You come across as a reasonably smart guy, I'm sure you could do it. Just do some research and ask questions. But really, once you have the components together it's just a matter of hooking it all up. There is a bit of a process to it but it's not set in stone by any means.
I've gotta admit that I am/was a bit 'scared' to build it myself. But now that I've thought about it, it can't be that exceptionally hard, right? I'll just have to be really careful when buying cables/extra fans/cooling paste/.., I guess.

I'll look around for a few guides to help me along the way.

The main reason I wanted to let the store build it, was because of the price of only €15. Would give me a better feeling of security when dealing with warranty too, I think.

Anyway, I'm still considering the two options. Building it myself wouldn't bind me to the options of that last site, though.
It's pretty easy really. I put my housemate's computer together after watching mine get built by a mate. Almost a year later and he's had no problems with it.

Really basic version:
1. attach the mobo to the case (make sure you attach the back panel first)
2. put the CPU into the mobo
3. put the RAM in
4. put in the DVD drive and HDD
5. put in the PSU
6. hook up the HDD, DVD drive and front panel connectors from the case to the mobo (your mobo will have instructions to tell you which one is the power and reset switches, LEDs etc.)
7. hook up the power to components (it's pretty hard to get this wrong as only the correct connectors fit - make sure you attach power to the mobo, CPU power on the mobo and HDD)
8. insert your video card and hook it up (because this is bulky and can get in the way of connecting other parts you may find it easier to do this stage last)

And basically from there you should be done. Just take it slowly and double check everything before turning on the power.

Last edited by Jaekus (2011-07-31 17:09:13)

2011-08-01 02:48:38
Jebus
Looking for my Scooper
+218|6019|Belgium
Thanks for the advice.

I'm thinking of recycling my current DVD-player from my current pc. It does the job fine, so I don't see the use of buying a new one.

Also, I'd be transferring my current HDD to my new pc, just for music/movies.

So I've chosen a case (http://store.antec.com/Product/enclosur … 240-2.aspx - http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2011/0 … d-review/1). Not that expensive, but the reviews are good.

CPU will be an i5-2500k. Not planning on overclocking as of yet (but perhaps in the future - hence the k). Will be using the stock cooler for now.
Trying to figure out what mobo/GPU to use right now.

I'm looking around here a bit:
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

And the 6850/6870 looked interesting for me. On that site it would seem illogical for me to buy a 6870, as it seems to perform worse and costs more than a 6850. I'll have to look into that a bit more.
2011-08-01 03:35:17
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5433|Sydney
If you take apart your old PC to use parts for the new one, it's just the reverse of removing those parts.

The only things to be super careful are to not touch the CPU pins if you can avoid it, don't force any components in like your RAM etc, and to make sure your cables aren't going to be touching any fan blades (this will be more annoying for the noise it makes than damaging, at least in the short term). Other than that you should be fine.

Last edited by Jaekus (2011-08-01 03:36:00)

2011-08-01 03:39:21
Jebus
Looking for my Scooper
+218|6019|Belgium
All right. Removing the hardware shouldn't be a problem. Also, my brother built his own PC a few years ago, so I'll be fine. I was more worried that the older HDD would cause problems, but as I'm only using it for some media storage, it shouldn't, right? (Let's just hope it doesn't die down in one year )
2011-08-01 03:47:23
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5433|Sydney
Just don't put anything on there you would really get cut up about losing, just to be safe.
2011-08-01 03:50:36
Jebus
Looking for my Scooper
+218|6019|Belgium
I'll probably never use my old PC anymore, and the parts I'd be transferring would be extras (except the DVD-player). So yeah.

Any thoughts about the GPU/mobo?
2011-08-01 04:05:31
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5433|Sydney
Depends on your budget. You're better off asking someone else about the mobo as I'm not clued in on what would be best.

As far as GPU, again, depending on budget, either a HD 6950 or GTX 560 are about the same AFAIK, and should run eveything pretty well. Or for a few dollars more you could get either an HD 6970 or GTX 570.
2011-08-01 04:33:11
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6404|'straya

Jaekus wrote:

Depends on your budget. You're better off asking someone else about the mobo as I'm not clued in on what would be best.

As far as GPU, again, depending on budget, either a HD 6950 or GTX 560 are about the same AFAIK, and should run eveything pretty well. Or for a few dollars more you could get either an HD 6970 or GTX 570.
GTX560 Ti. It's pedantic I know, but there is a difference

As for a motherboard for a i5 2500k, it depends on your budget.

I would say ASUS P8P67 LE as a low end option. ASUS P8P67 PRO or P8Z68-V LE as a mid range option and ASUS P8Z68-V as a high(ish) end option.

(those boards are interchangeable with their Gigabyte counterparts, but I cbf to write them out lol)

Last edited by Little BaBy JESUS (2011-08-01 04:38:51)

 

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