Uzique
dasein.
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a world of difference but depends if you care enough about typing/comfort/response. plastic gaming keyboards cannot touch them.
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a_reborn_vetaran
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So basically, the G110 isn't that great after all?
Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5087|Amsterdam
compared to a mechanical keyboard?

nope
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6715

a_reborn_vetaran wrote:

So basically, the G110 isn't that great after all?
expensive razer and logitech keyboards cost a lot of money for... not a lot. some fancy lights, some macro keys you'll probably never use, a fancy screen maybe that is also pretty superfluous when you're talking about a keyboard-qua-keyboard. the actual typing quality and technology behind the keys of these over-priced over-marketed 'gaming keyboards' is cheap and tacky. plastics, no solid construction, 'anti-ghosting' only provided around the WASD keys so you have a false sense of how 'responsive' the board really is. mechanical are built solid, they're heavy, and they're much better for every day typing and general keypresses. get a gaming keyboard if you really care that much about LED lighting and macro keys and LCD screens and whatever other gimmick they're attaching nowadays. get a mechanical if you want to get 100% keyboard for your money, no add-ons.
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a_reborn_vetaran
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Uzique wrote:

a_reborn_vetaran wrote:

So basically, the G110 isn't that great after all?
expensive razer and logitech keyboards cost a lot of money for... not a lot. some fancy lights, some macro keys you'll probably never use, a fancy screen maybe that is also pretty superfluous when you're talking about a keyboard-qua-keyboard. the actual typing quality and technology behind the keys of these over-priced over-marketed 'gaming keyboards' is cheap and tacky. plastics, no solid construction, 'anti-ghosting' only provided around the WASD keys so you have a false sense of how 'responsive' the board really is. mechanical are built solid, they're heavy, and they're much better for every day typing and general keypresses. get a gaming keyboard if you really care that much about LED lighting and macro keys and LCD screens and whatever other gimmick they're attaching nowadays. get a mechanical if you want to get 100% keyboard for your money, no add-ons.
All I need is a fast responding keyboard, with endurability. (Since my spacebar for example doesn't always let me jump when I press it from the left edge)

The G110 would fit my needs or not?

Thanks
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6715
if you want durability i would say go mechanical, they'll last for about 20 years and the keypresses will ALWAYS feel solid and durable.

the g110 will also fit your needs though, sure, logitech's stuff isn't complete crap. but i would say that for the same money you could get something much more solid. the mechanical keyboards often have 3x switches on the spacebar, for example, so you can press it at the absolute edge and still have a completely solid click.

how much is the g110 over there? if it's over 75 euros consider getting the razer blackwidow.
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a_reborn_vetaran
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it's about 69 euro's

But you reckon if it's available in Azerty?

Last edited by a_reborn_vetaran (2011-08-07 03:44:32)

Uzique
dasein.
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i'd say seriously consider the razer blackwidow too, then. what will you be using your keyboard for? if you're mainly into fps gaming and want a keyboard that is great for that, check out the steelseries mechanical keyboards too (6v2 or something its called). it has cherry mx black switches, though, which aren't all that comfortable for typing for long-periods.
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Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6715

a_reborn_vetaran wrote:

it's about 69 euro's

But you reckon if it's available in Azerty?
that's a good question, actually. i do know that you can get nearly every mechanical keyboard on the market in european layouts. perhaps check their official site.
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Benzin
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Reborn, if you want a nice entry-level "gaming" keyboard and don't want to drop the cash on a mechanical, take a look at the Microsoft Sidewinder X4. You get a few macro keys (I use them for shortcuts to programs like Chrome, iTunes, Skype, etc.) and the Microsoft software that interacts with it is lightweight and has nice functionality. It's likely also available in AZERTY - I've got the German version, so I imagine that there's also an AZERTY for you out there.
a_reborn_vetaran
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Uzique wrote:

i'd say seriously consider the razer blackwidow too, then. what will you be using your keyboard for? if you're mainly into fps gaming and want a keyboard that is great for that, check out the steelseries mechanical keyboards too (6v2 or something its called). it has cherry mx black switches, though, which aren't all that comfortable for typing for long-periods.
Yea mainly fps, but also rts like Starcraft 2.
a_reborn_vetaran
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CapnNismo wrote:

Reborn, if you want a nice entry-level "gaming" keyboard and don't want to drop the cash on a mechanical, take a look at the Microsoft Sidewinder X4. You get a few macro keys (I use them for shortcuts to programs like Chrome, iTunes, Skype, etc.) and the Microsoft software that interacts with it is lightweight and has nice functionality. It's likely also available in AZERTY - I've got the German version, so I imagine that there's also an AZERTY for you out there.
That keyboard also has a nice pricecard! (no sarcasm )
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6715

a_reborn_vetaran wrote:

Uzique wrote:

i'd say seriously consider the razer blackwidow too, then. what will you be using your keyboard for? if you're mainly into fps gaming and want a keyboard that is great for that, check out the steelseries mechanical keyboards too (6v2 or something its called). it has cherry mx black switches, though, which aren't all that comfortable for typing for long-periods.
Yea mainly fps, but also rts like Starcraft 2.
if you want to play rts definitely get a mechanical. they are far and way above plastic gaming keyboards in performance. if you want the best try and get one with cherry mx brown switches (they retail for about 120 euros), or just get the razer blackwidow which is a great cheaper alternative.
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Benzin
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a_reborn_vetaran wrote:

CapnNismo wrote:

Reborn, if you want a nice entry-level "gaming" keyboard and don't want to drop the cash on a mechanical, take a look at the Microsoft Sidewinder X4. You get a few macro keys (I use them for shortcuts to programs like Chrome, iTunes, Skype, etc.) and the Microsoft software that interacts with it is lightweight and has nice functionality. It's likely also available in AZERTY - I've got the German version, so I imagine that there's also an AZERTY for you out there.
That keyboard also has a nice pricecard! (no sarcasm )
One of the reasons I got it. Been pretty satisfied with it thus far. The keys all work nicely and if it fails in two years or so (just got it last September), then I'll upgrade to a mechanical. The media keys all worked nicely, I have the ability to store 3 different macro profiles (so the six keys turn into 18), but since I don't do any MMORPG stuff, I doubt I'll ever use them. I suppose they'd be useful for CS buy menus since I can record the macros on the fly, but I hardly ever play it so the macro keys are nothing more than shortcuts for OS commands.

It's also got a key above the num pad to bring up the Windows calculator. I quite like that little feature.

You can also take a look at the Sidewinder X8 keyboard (maybe it's the X6?) - it has a removable num pad that can also be attached to the left side of the keyboard but it was twice the price here in Austria and other than that it only gave me a load more macro keys. Not worth it, IMO.
Kampframmer
Esq.
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Do mechanical keyboards like Das, zowie and filco have media keys? Because thats a real deal breaker for me.
Uzique
dasein.
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the zowie does, yep. das, no. filco, depends.
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gurdeep
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is there anything that you don't know, uzi? if i could apply your brain power to poker, i would have about $3.50m
Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5087|Amsterdam

Uzique wrote:

the zowie does, yep. das, no. filco, depends.
If i get a mechanical keyboard (which is probably just a matter of time), it will probably be zowie then. I dont think i can live without my media keys.
Which one did you buy again?
Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5087|Amsterdam

coolstorybro wrote:

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a_reborn_vetaran
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What do you guys think about the Fatal1ty Gaming Headset? https://www.alternate.be/html/product/H … t/195372/?

It's more in my pricerange :p (33 euro's)

For the keyboard: http://www.alternate.be/html/product/To … ;l3=Gaming

Last edited by a_reborn_vetaran (2011-08-09 04:11:38)

RDMC
Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!
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That is a really nice keyboard to be honest

Also I owned that headset, it is pretty decent for its price.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6715

Kampframmer wrote:

Uzique wrote:

the zowie does, yep. das, no. filco, depends.
If i get a mechanical keyboard (which is probably just a matter of time), it will probably be zowie then. I dont think i can live without my media keys.
Which one did you buy again?
https://www.dvhardware.net/news/2010/zowie_celeritas.jpg

no contest, imo. cherry browns, media keys, fps response speed-ups...
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Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5087|Amsterdam
I've heard nothing but praise about the cherry browns. All the other switched seem to get mixed reviews, i guess its because they rely to much on personal preference.
Do you need to use an extra key (like Alt + [???]) to use those media keys, since theyre on the same key as f1-5.
I guess what i want to know is, could i still use the media keys without selecting an idle worker in sc2?

From what ive heard, cherry brown + media keys seems to be the way to go for me.

e: Too bad that it doesnt have a volume dial thingy

Last edited by Kampframmer (2011-08-09 07:07:22)

FFLink
There is.
+1,380|6936|Devon, England

CapnNismo wrote:

a_reborn_vetaran wrote:

CapnNismo wrote:

Reborn, if you want a nice entry-level "gaming" keyboard and don't want to drop the cash on a mechanical, take a look at the Microsoft Sidewinder X4. You get a few macro keys (I use them for shortcuts to programs like Chrome, iTunes, Skype, etc.) and the Microsoft software that interacts with it is lightweight and has nice functionality. It's likely also available in AZERTY - I've got the German version, so I imagine that there's also an AZERTY for you out there.
That keyboard also has a nice pricecard! (no sarcasm )
One of the reasons I got it. Been pretty satisfied with it thus far. The keys all work nicely and if it fails in two years or so (just got it last September), then I'll upgrade to a mechanical. The media keys all worked nicely, I have the ability to store 3 different macro profiles (so the six keys turn into 18), but since I don't do any MMORPG stuff, I doubt I'll ever use them. I suppose they'd be useful for CS buy menus since I can record the macros on the fly, but I hardly ever play it so the macro keys are nothing more than shortcuts for OS commands.

It's also got a key above the num pad to bring up the Windows calculator. I quite like that little feature.

You can also take a look at the Sidewinder X8 keyboard (maybe it's the X6?) - it has a removable num pad that can also be attached to the left side of the keyboard but it was twice the price here in Austria and other than that it only gave me a load more macro keys. Not worth it, IMO.
I use an X6 myself.

Great keyboard and I love the ability to remove the numpad. I never use it and this allows me to have more room on my desk.

The 6/12 macro keys on the left are useful, too, as are the three profile keys. Media keys are handy, but standard and I love the volume control 'nob', as well as the backlight one.

I remember that I had one issue with it, though, when I first got it. On most keyboards, the ESC key is right above the tild key (I think, anyway). I kept hitting F1 for a while instead of ESC, or something like that. It was annoying, but I got over it after a few days.

Had it for probably well over a year, now, and other than a few spilled drinks causing the odd sticky key, I've had 0 problems. Software is piss-easy to work with, too.

Last edited by FFLink (2011-08-09 07:58:12)

a_reborn_vetaran
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Thanks for your reply FFlink!

I'm sure I'll get that keyboard

I guess the fatality headset will be fine too for its price.

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