I know the ads are probably bs and all but just out or curiosity, has anyone ever used it? Good experience, bad experience, worth it etc?
its one of those apps you never get round to actually using
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Overly expensive and the best you can get out of it would be the language ability of a six year old.
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That program always reminds me of this song.
This. It´s supposed to be quite good though, a friend of mine tried it with Italian and said it was good. He is a lazy bastard though and quit after a few days.m3thod wrote:
its one of those apps you never get round to actually using
I myself have spanish lying around for almost 2 years now, but never used it.
Sounds more like a Half-Life 1 soldier than a song.Ultrafunkula wrote:
That program always reminds me of this song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYOpSCgCN74
I have a friend who uses it to learn French and she is progressing quite well. So I think it's a good program.
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Good program but pretty much everyone is to lazy too actually follow through. Not a fault of the program, just lazy people. I am one of them.
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thisIrishGrimReaper wrote:
Good program but pretty much everyone is to lazy too actually follow through. Not a fault of the program, just lazy people. I am one of them.
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i torrented it a while ago for spanish but never used it since i'm done with my 1 yr of spanish class (btw forgot almost everything i learned in that class LoL, besides some cool cultural stuff)
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If it can get someone the ability to speak like a six year old in the time advertised, it's still a good investment if you're going to follow through with it. Your skill in the language can be expanded upon later. I used to speak horrible Korean (before I forgot most of it), but the attempt always seemed to flatter the shops in the international district.Jay wrote:
Overly expensive and the best you can get out of it would be the language ability of a six year old.
Better to have the ability of a 6 year old than nothing.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
If it can get someone the ability to speak like a six year old in the time advertised, it's still a good investment if you're going to follow through with it. Your skill in the language can be expanded upon later. I used to speak horrible Korean (before I forgot most of it), but the attempt always seemed to flatter the shops in the international district.Jay wrote:
Overly expensive and the best you can get out of it would be the language ability of a six year old.
I went to Belgrade with a friend of mine who barely spoke serbian, but even his crappy serbian saved us from A LOT of trouble.
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is this just jay talking out of his ass again, or did you try to use it?Jay wrote:
Overly expensive and the best you can get out of it would be the language ability of a six year old.
I'm basing my opinion on the numerous reviews that I read on it when I was looking to purchase it. That was the overall consensus that I gathered.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
is this just jay talking out of his ass again, or did you try to use it?Jay wrote:
Overly expensive and the best you can get out of it would be the language ability of a six year old.
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Just torrent it.
Then it becomes a decent program for the price LOL.
Then it becomes a decent program for the price LOL.
Method might work for people who want a shallow grasp of the target language.
Not a real substitute for properly training yourself to think in a language;
Textbook study,
vocabulary flashcards,
memorizing 5-20 words a day,
listen to the spoken language,
watch movies/TV in the target language, watch the target language news shows, speak the language with native speakers.
Write it, speak it, read it, listen to it, immerse yourself in it, think in it.
Then do it 20 more times.
Pretty pictures aren't a substitute for the memorization & repetition of speaking/reading a language.
Another tool, perhaps. Not a substitute.
Go to DLIFLC.edu, download the free headstart programs (and other language resources)
Better investment
Not a real substitute for properly training yourself to think in a language;
Textbook study,
vocabulary flashcards,
memorizing 5-20 words a day,
listen to the spoken language,
watch movies/TV in the target language, watch the target language news shows, speak the language with native speakers.
Write it, speak it, read it, listen to it, immerse yourself in it, think in it.
Then do it 20 more times.
Pretty pictures aren't a substitute for the memorization & repetition of speaking/reading a language.
Another tool, perhaps. Not a substitute.
Go to DLIFLC.edu, download the free headstart programs (and other language resources)
Better investment
Excellent logic-Sh1fty- wrote:
I have a friend who uses it to learn French and she is progressing quite well. So I think it's a good program.
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I used it for Mandarin. Worked well while I was doing it. As soon as I stopped, I had almost zero retention. But I had almost zero retention after stopping with two years of classroom French in high school, too. It's a skill that requires constant use, and that's what the program does for you. One complaint I had was that you don't learn the rules of the language--it's just immersion. Learning the rules would have made the immersion a bit more useful, IMO.
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if you want a legit copy, if there is an existing Borders Book in your area, they usually have it marked down 30% (out of business sale).
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The only way you can hope to maintain the language skills you might learn through Rosetta Stone or through a school course, is by using the language on a daily basis. I wouldn't be taking Russian if I knew I wouldn't be able to practice outside of school.
I like the immersion technique because it is how your brain remembers learning your native language. Rules can be learned in just about any other program/book afterwards, and can help cement some of the things you've learned by immersion.FEOS wrote:
I used it for Mandarin. Worked well while I was doing it. As soon as I stopped, I had almost zero retention. But I had almost zero retention after stopping with two years of classroom French in high school, too. It's a skill that requires constant use, and that's what the program does for you. One complaint I had was that you don't learn the rules of the language--it's just immersion. Learning the rules would have made the immersion a bit more useful, IMO.
Immersion can also be applied to other fields of study with awesome effect, like electronics.
Only problem is, if Rosetta Stone is your only way of learning the language, it doesn't teach you the rules. Hence my critique.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
I like the immersion technique because it is how your brain remembers learning your native language. Rules can be learned in just about any other program/book afterwards, and can help cement some of the things you've learned by immersion.FEOS wrote:
I used it for Mandarin. Worked well while I was doing it. As soon as I stopped, I had almost zero retention. But I had almost zero retention after stopping with two years of classroom French in high school, too. It's a skill that requires constant use, and that's what the program does for you. One complaint I had was that you don't learn the rules of the language--it's just immersion. Learning the rules would have made the immersion a bit more useful, IMO.
Immersion can also be applied to other fields of study with awesome effect, like electronics.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
No substitute for repetition, interaction, and plain old hard work & intelligent studying.FEOS wrote:
Only problem is, if Rosetta Stone is your only way of learning the language, it doesn't teach you the rules. Hence my critique.
Best language method I know of;
Get a girlfriend who speaks the language you want to learn, and wants to improve her grasp of your language in return.
Get a pile of good textbooks, dictionaries, flashcards, audio, grammar references.
Get motivated to learn the language.
(hint: if you're not spending at least 2 hours a day, you're not going to progress)
And what Rosetta Stone calls "immersion" just isn't.
DLI is immersion -
living in a country is immersion -
setting your computer to foreign language defaults, and watching foreign news, TV, films, and SCOLA is almost immersion
Rosetta Stone is a gimmick.
Works for initial ego-stroking language learning.
Is NOT a way to properly learn a language.
For $200-$300, you can buy a pile of truly excellent language learning materials off of Amazon, and download other sources for free.
It seems to me that if someone can learn something quickly with Rosetta Stone and that the rules can be immediately shored up with cheap or free material...that it would be worth the price if it's a language you're going to use.