But never leave them alone with something they can eat or get tangled in. Literally seen the cat become entangled in seconds.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
cats are easily amused by the cheapest, simplest toys. paper bags, cardboard boxes, wrapping paper, a piece of string where you don't even have to get anywhere close to the cat.
The one cat was a bit of a special case, he'd lived wild for a year or two, we were on a three acre property on a private road surrounded by other three acre properties. Mostly he didn't go too far.my disagreement with dilbert on them is you don't have to let them into the wild, and it's better that you don't. a tough life even in cat-loving countries with an abundance of neighborhood cats as social norm. rampant disease, injury, sometimes the animal just disappears and never shows up again.
The point I'm making is assuming you go through with this you're going to be faced with your partner opening the door, seeing the sad little face, listening to the yowling and recriminations.Dilbert_X wrote:
So once again, the cat might seem manic when they push through the door in the morning, but chances are they were sleeping soundly 5 mins before, its not a sign they had separation anxiety all night.
eg Cats waking up for food.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IQUYX65_yU
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oh agreed. lots of stuff can be choke or entanglement hazard. the right kind of cat personality could play themselves into a panting mess going after a toy on an elastic string attached to the ceiling, but yeah maybe take it down when they're through.Dilbert_X wrote:
But never leave them alone with something they can eat or get tangled in. Literally seen the cat become entangled in seconds.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
cats are easily amused by the cheapest, simplest toys. paper bags, cardboard boxes, wrapping paper, a piece of string where you don't even have to get anywhere close to the cat.
your place sounds amazing, actually.uziq wrote:
we have no less than 3 balconies
cats like this would probably really appreciate high places with little cubby holes, indoors or out on a catio. getting it used to being out in such an enclosure and spending more time like that for long naps or watching could help with conditions indoors.and the cat sometimes indicates it wants to explore outside (a lot of floor to ceiling windows, the cat is always peering outside, watching bugs or taking an interest in the street scene outside). we let it out for 10-15 minutes at a time, but it's nervous and apprehensive the whole time. it is most definitively an Indoor Cat.
still rarely see cats on harnesses in this town. it's a wonder they're sold in brick & mortar establishments here at all (the harnesses).the other half has a harness too and the idea was to walk the cat (we live next to a large park - quite a rarity and bonus in inner tokyo). but the cat is a very long way away from being comfortable in the wide open. the balconies for now are about as far as it will go.
overall it just seems like quite an attachment-heavy, tremulous, nervous little thing.
the videos of those things falling off the windows with the cat still on are unintentionally hilarious. ahem, animal suffering is bad. (the cats are fine, their dignity is not)we also have a window seat, like one fastened to our large front bay windows with suction cups. the cat sits in that for a couple hours a day.
thanks for all this, i am reading and making notes.Dilbert_X wrote:
The point I'm making is assuming you go through with this you're going to be faced with your partner opening the door, seeing the sad little face, listening to the yowling and recriminations.Dilbert_X wrote:
So once again, the cat might seem manic when they push through the door in the morning, but chances are they were sleeping soundly 5 mins before, its not a sign they had separation anxiety all night.
eg Cats waking up for food.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IQUYX65_yU
You'll have to stick it out for a few weeks, and prove that its mostly an act built on indignation, not actual suffering. They're almost certainly fast asleep and perfectly happy all night.
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lol, i did read this when doing some research on reddit and whatnot. getting another cat basically deputises a lot of the socialising and attachment stuff to the other animal. but, yeah, two pets in one apartment and double the allergy-triggering dander is probably beyond my tolerance.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
if i might venture to comment further, two cats is probably the right number of cats to keep them busy and out of your hair. that's probably not what you want to hear right now though, lol.
uziq wrote:
thanks for all this
Does this lady want kids someday? I hope you are ready to give up on having a trendy apartment ever again when the kids start showing up.uziq wrote:
moving into a brand new designer apartment and filling it with hair-ridden smelly old pet furniture has already raised my hackles. i want a sleek, minimalist interior to go with the building, not a bunch of mangy crap.
If it doesn't work out you're left dealing with all the dramas of the two individual cats plus their squabbling which is an order of magnitude again.uziq wrote:
lol, i did read this when doing some research on reddit and whatnot. getting another cat basically deputises a lot of the socialising and attachment stuff to the other animal.
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that's fairly cynical. if a boomer can figure out online poker tax evasion, the kiddies can operate a desktop os. millennials went into the (internet) pc age with practically zero prep. dilbert can probably cad a cog too without using a sliderule.They are trying to incorporate cellphone features into desktops since a generation of young people were primarily raised on touch screens.
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Think how annoying it is in CAD. Do I want multiple dialog boxes to pop up if I don't release a button before moving the mouse? I do not.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
"mouse gestures."
i didn't ask for this feature in my desktop browsers. it just got implemented and turned on, like so many unasked for phone updates.
hold right, move mouse right. go forward a page. hold right, move mouse left. go back a page. guess what happens when i'm on a web app that requires a lot of right clicks.
if i wanted to swipe, i'd bring out my phone. seriously, how dumb is this feature? i'm already using my mouse for that. it's a function of the scroll wheel.
turned that stuff off is what i did.
app developers: stop enabling new ui features by default.
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