Let's talk helis

2012-01-21 23:57:51

#201

-Sh1fty-: plundering yee booty; +510|5727|Ventura, California

I've been playing with those guided rockets for a a few days now. I'm hitting tanks across the map from the Russian base on Firestorm to the American one and destroying the tank with the second salvo. This is ridiculously awesome and very reminiscent of BF2142 guided gunship rockets.

It's not useful against helicopters unless they're facing you.

And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.

2012-01-22 01:09:52

#202

Jebus: Looking for my Scooper; +218|6018|Belgium

So I've been missing out all along with my regular rockets? Lulz.

Maybe I'll get some more kills now, since my gunner always gets 60+ and I'm stuck with 10-ish kills.

2012-01-22 01:19:03

#203

Sisco: grandmaster league revivalist; +493|6597

Those are still your regular pilot rockets, its just that they hit in a much tighter area and have a significantly increased range. Furthermore the deviation from the center of the reticule depending on whether you´re climbing or descending is reduced.
It also enables you to hit choppers with them much more often, even when they are not facing you, cause the higher precision makes it easier to lead targets.

https://www.abload.de/img/bf3-bf2ssig0250wvn.jpg

2012-01-22 01:24:09

#204

Jebus: Looking for my Scooper; +218|6018|Belgium

That's incredible lol, I should start using them then..
I thought those missiles required some kind of laser lock on..

2012-01-22 01:31:01

#205

Sisco: grandmaster league revivalist; +493|6597

Nope, just an upgrade for your regular ones. I too use it all the time.

2012-01-22 01:36:39

#206

Jebus: Looking for my Scooper; +218|6018|Belgium

Sisco wrote:
Nope, just an upgrade for your regular ones. I too use it all the time.

Why the hell did I not know, lol.
So I'm guessing they're a much better alternative to the regular ones then?

2012-01-22 01:53:12

#207

Sisco: grandmaster league revivalist; +493|6597

Yes, they are, but there might be better upgrades depending on your playstyle. The laser marker can be very powerful if you have a dedicated gunner with missiles for example.

2012-01-22 04:00:21

#208

Jebus: Looking for my Scooper; +218|6018|Belgium

Thanks, I'll start experimenting : )

I usually run stealth/flares/heatseekers as pilot, while my gunner has autoloader/thermal and TV.
We can't play overly agressive with that setup, but it rapes maps like Caspian.

We should try the ECM/Flares combo thouh..

2012-01-22 05:49:52

#209

Sisco: grandmaster league revivalist; +493|6597

ECM works great for the pilot and makes up for not having stealth somewhat (if you choose to take the guided rockets or laser for example)

2012-01-22 11:49:59

#210

Jebus: Looking for my Scooper; +218|6018|Belgium

Just played a round, worked pretty sweet.
We gotta work more on the ECM/Flares/TV coordination though.

Do you guys use ECM or Flares first?

Last edited by Jebus (2012-01-22 11:50:05)

2012-01-22 11:54:56

#211

jord: Member; +2,382|6932|The North, beyond the wall.

ecm because it reloads quicker, then flares, and by that time your ecm should have reloaded again

2012-01-22 14:15:51

#212

Jebus: Looking for my Scooper; +218|6018|Belgium

Roger.

I've only played one round with that setup so far, but is it just a bug ('feature') that you still hear the locking-on tone for 2-ish seconds after having deployed your ECM?

And also, as soon a rocket is launched at you, ECM is useless, right?

2012-01-22 16:08:55

#213

steelie34: pub hero!; +603|6635|the land of bourbon

Jebus wrote:
Roger.

I've only played one round with that setup so far, but is it just a bug ('feature') that you still hear the locking-on tone for 2-ish seconds after having deployed your ECM?

And also, as soon a rocket is launched at you, ECM is useless, right?

yes, no. i've used the ecm after a missle launch and evaded them as long as i turned away.

https://bf3s.com/sigs/36e1d9e36ae924048a933db90fb05bb247fe315e.png

2012-01-23 08:42:08

#214

Jebus: Looking for my Scooper; +218|6018|Belgium

I've heard people say you can tell the kind of lock on (laser or heat) by looking at the color of 'LOCK' on your screen, however, I've never seen it change color, am I the only one?

2012-01-23 09:17:18

#215

-Sh1fty-: plundering yee booty; +510|5727|Ventura, California

Sisco wrote:
Those are still your regular pilot rockets, its just that they hit in a much tighter area and have a significantly increased range. Furthermore the deviation from the center of the reticule depending on whether you´re climbing or descending is reduced.
It also enables you to hit choppers with them much more often, even when they are not facing you, cause the higher precision makes it easier to lead targets.

none of that

They're freaking guided sisco

And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.

2012-01-23 15:55:29

#216

RAIMIUS: You with the face!; +244|6968|US

Yes, passive guidance. You fire, they track in slightly...although recently they seem to guide much less than before (PC). I find that they are getting a lot fewer hits if launched near the target.

What are people's thoughts on the Laser Painter/Guided Missile combo?

2012-01-23 16:23:12

#217

Camm: Feeding the Cats.; +761|5222|Dundee, Scotland.

RAIMIUS wrote:
Yes, passive guidance. You fire, they track in slightly...although recently they seem to guide much less than before (PC). I find that they are getting a lot fewer hits if launched near the target.

What are people's thoughts on the Laser Painter/Guided Missile combo?

Me and finray were using it to good effect on caspian one round. I normally use laser painter to lase targets for my teammates

for a fatty you're a serious intellectual lightweight.

2012-01-23 19:59:49

#218

steelie34: pub hero!; +603|6635|the land of bourbon

eh, laser painter/guided takes too long imo. unless you're on a server with less than 20 people, i would stick with the rockets.

2012-01-23 20:30:02

#219

RAIMIUS: You with the face!; +244|6968|US

I haven't really looked, but can you use laser painter and guided missiles at the same time in the scouts?

2012-01-23 23:15:07

#220

Sisco: grandmaster league revivalist; +493|6597

-Sh1fty- wrote:
Sisco wrote:
Those are still your regular pilot rockets, its just that they hit in a much tighter area and have a significantly increased range. Furthermore the deviation from the center of the reticule depending on whether you´re climbing or descending is reduced.
It also enables you to hit choppers with them much more often, even when they are not facing you, cause the higher precision makes it easier to lead targets.
none of that

They're freaking guided sisco

I noticed none of that on PC. They still fly straight, and straight past the target if not aimed properly. Just flew again yesterday and I slighty missed a moving tank because I did not compensate for throttle and all went past him.

2012-01-24 00:31:55

#221

-Sh1fty-: plundering yee booty; +510|5727|Ventura, California

I just did some testing and it does seem that they are not guided, which doesn't make sense considering they're called 'Guided Rockets'. I do get amazing across-the-map kills on tanks with them though. Maybe they don't track vehicles but follow the aiming cross-hair?

And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.

2012-01-24 00:35:55

#222

aerodynamic: FOCKING HELL; +241|6007|Roma

If you look closely enough the rockets will folloe the targets a bit, they will move right or left depending on where it is, but just a bit.

Also why is the havoc targeting system so broken? The cobra's rockets will go approximately where the crosshair is but with the havoc you have to sort of guess where the rockets are gonna go.
Even if you use the "I" as a reference point its still pretty random most of the times.

https://bf3s.com/sigs/8ea27f2d75b353b0a18b096ed75ec5e142da7cc2.png

2012-01-24 10:18:50

#223

GeoEnvi: Member; +22|6940|Philadelphia, PA

The Havoc is altogether broken.

Slow. Inaccurate aiming. Corners like a 30' stretch limo.

2012-01-24 10:22:50

#224

jord: Member; +2,382|6932|The North, beyond the wall.

The havoc is shit. Not only that but on sharqi if you're in the havoc at the start of the round you're probably going to die. It starts off lower and it can't go back too far because the map boundary is like 20 metres behind so you can't even aim up for long at the ah1z because you're gonna fly backwards out of bounds.

Another thing that's not been tested, what a surprise.

Last edited by jord (2012-01-24 10:23:13)

2012-01-24 10:25:55

#225

Lucien: Fantasma Parastasie; +1,451|6906

It's a lot more bearable if you keep your speed with it, never fly BF2 style, when you turn bank inwards and never try to do that circle strafe thing

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