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Winston_Churchill wrote:

im interested to see the outcry when wikipedia and reddit are down tomorrow
There will be none.
-Whiteroom-
Pineapplewhat
+572|7045|BC, Canada

Turquoise wrote:

PIPA is even worse than SOPA.
did they include SOPA just so that they could drop it and have PIPA pass with less drama is the question.
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|7125|Toronto | Canada

Roc18 wrote:

Winston_Churchill wrote:

im interested to see the outcry when wikipedia and reddit are down tomorrow
There will be none.
with two of the most visited sites on the internet down, as well as many other massive sites putting up large information posters.  i sincerely doubt that.  maybe a lack of outcry from the ignorant
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,990|7018|949

Why are Wikipedia and reddit going offline tomorrow?

Never mind, just read an article about it. I thought they were getting shutdown but it's only a sign of protest.
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Winston_Churchill wrote:

Roc18 wrote:

Winston_Churchill wrote:

im interested to see the outcry when wikipedia and reddit are down tomorrow
There will be none.
with two of the most visited sites on the internet down, as well as many other massive sites putting up large information posters.  i sincerely doubt that.  maybe a lack of outcry from the ignorant
>Reddit
>Most Visited

Pick one

Maybe we'll see a few facebook/twitter outcries about it but nothing will happen.
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now if facebook & twitter went on lock down for 24 hours ....
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FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6886|so randum

Roc18 wrote:

Winston_Churchill wrote:

Roc18 wrote:


There will be none.
with two of the most visited sites on the internet down, as well as many other massive sites putting up large information posters.  i sincerely doubt that.  maybe a lack of outcry from the ignorant
>Reddit
>Most Visited

Pick one

Maybe we'll see a few facebook/twitter outcries about it but nothing will happen.
because no-one visits reddit right? just because it's a shithole doesn't mean people won't notice. and stop posting that 4chan shit in this section.
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6791|North Carolina

-Whiteroom- wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

PIPA is even worse than SOPA.
did they include SOPA just so that they could drop it and have PIPA pass with less drama is the question.
Who knows...   I would suspect that too.

Last edited by Turquoise (2012-01-17 14:56:18)

KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,990|7018|949

FatherTed wrote:

Roc18 wrote:

Winston_Churchill wrote:


with two of the most visited sites on the internet down, as well as many other massive sites putting up large information posters.  i sincerely doubt that.  maybe a lack of outcry from the ignorant
>Reddit
>Most Visited

Pick one

Maybe we'll see a few facebook/twitter outcries about it but nothing will happen.
because no-one visits reddit right? just because it's a shithole doesn't mean people won't notice. and stop posting that 4chan shit in this section.
I would think if reddit is going offline as a symbolic protest against SOPA they are pasting that fact all over the place, as to not confuse people that they've either been shut down or are experiencing technical problems. So the complaining an outrage should be limited to the people who aren't really following this whole thing (ie the ignorant, as churchill said)
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|7125|Toronto | Canada

plus as far as i know its not going to be a literal black page.  i was under the assumption it would be information about whats going on, like what wikipedia is doing
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6797|'Murka

Turquoise wrote:

FEOS wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

Pretty sure the US just passed indefinite military detention of American citizens without charge or trial.

If they will pass that, SOPA should be a forgone conclusion.
Only not so much:

 SUBTITLE D. SEC. 1021. (p. 655)

(e) AUTHORITIES.—Nothing in this section
    shall be construed to affect existing law or

    authorities relating to the detention of

    United States citizens, lawful resident aliens

    of the United States, or any other persons

    who are captured or arrested in the United

    States.

SUBTITLE D. SEC. 1022. (p. 657)

(b) APPLICABILITY TO UNITED STATES CITIZENS
    AND LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—

    (1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS.—The requirement

    to detain a person in military custody

    under this section does not extend to citizens

    of the United States.
That would contradict what multiple other sources have been saying -- including the other thread.

It seems a bit odd for the ACLU and a multitude of news sources from various political leanings to suggest that the NDAA indefinite detention clause does apply to citizens.

It seems odder still that Carl Levin and John McCain, the two sponsors of the clause, would argue on the Senate floor in favor of the clause by defending its application to citizens.  Also, Levin has stated that the purpose behind the clause was to include citizens, since the White House requested it specifically after seeing that the first version didn't include citizens.
House version vs Senate version vs modified Senate version. Check the dates and context of the posts to which you are responding, Turq. I know you've been gone a while, but damn...rookie!
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”Why, why are laws a thing you can buy? / They got paid off, should be laid off, re-election denied / Our web means more than lawyers, lobbies and lies / So speak up before the internet dies / Speak up before the internet dies”.
more clever than funny.. but whatever
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pirana6
Go Cougs!
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google pretends to black out
wikipedia english blacks out
craigslist blacks out
reddit claims to black out


why no bf3s blackout?

edito: minecraft too hahaha

and urban dictionary
and mozilla (thanks kerry)

Last edited by pirana6 (2012-01-18 00:28:05)

Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6987|132 and Bush

pirana6 wrote:

google pretends to black out
wikipedia english blacks out
craigslist blacks out
reddit claims to black out


why no bf3s blackout?

edito: minecraft too hahaha
https://i.imgur.com/n7ECs.jpg
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I've never agreed with Hitler more.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6987|132 and Bush

hitler really got it right.
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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6987|132 and Bush

Sure is the talk of the town.. everywhere it seems


it was almost even the lead story on fox news..lol
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5972

You can still get into wikipedia through google. It only blocks you if you go to wikipedia.com. Who the hell goes to the wikpedia front before looking for something?
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6797|'Murka

I clicked on a wiki link through a search engine and it showed the wiki page for a split second before switching to their protest page...
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Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5744|London, England
Dunno how this is supposed to stop piracy. People can still share music on networks just like people used to sell bootleg tapes and cd's. There's a little asian lady that walks up and down the main street here selling hundreds of bootleg dvd's. Even the gas stations stock the bootlegs for $5 a pop. Fuck these inbred congressmen.
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6791|North Carolina

Jay wrote:

Dunno how this is supposed to stop piracy. People can still share music on networks just like people used to sell bootleg tapes and cd's. There's a little asian lady that walks up and down the main street here selling hundreds of bootleg dvd's. Even the gas stations stock the bootlegs for $5 a pop. Fuck these inbred congressmen.
It's just a power grab, basically.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5744|London, England

Turquoise wrote:

Jay wrote:

Dunno how this is supposed to stop piracy. People can still share music on networks just like people used to sell bootleg tapes and cd's. There's a little asian lady that walks up and down the main street here selling hundreds of bootleg dvd's. Even the gas stations stock the bootlegs for $5 a pop. Fuck these inbred congressmen.
It's just a power grab, basically.
No, I think the record and movie companies genuinely believe that this will put money back in their pockets. Idiots.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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SEREMAKER
BABYMAKIN EXPERT √
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So, is there a way to protect copyright material without going to the extent of SOPA or PIPA or do we live in the grey area of protection now-a-days

that they can protect most of the material but not a 100%
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Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5744|London, England

SEREMAKER wrote:

So, is there a way to protect copyright material without going to the extent of SOPA or PIPA or do we live in the grey area of protection now-a-days

that they can protect most of the material but not a 100%
They can't protect shit.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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