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thepilot91 wrote:

obviously you dont get what I mean at all BVC

I get what you mean, I just don't agree with it.

thepilot91 wrote:

but to say 1 thing, attack choppers (unless teamed up with someone over TS/similar), Littlebirds, and stealthjets have absolutely no chance of ever taking down an AA, and for the cover part : as jesus said () theres little or no cover at some maps (more than 1...) and even if there is ....guess what thats where the other jet(s) helis(s) and engineers with handheld AAs are, so as long as the mobile AA stays out of ground combat (not very hard, but very commonly occuring) it's totally OP , especially with the active missiles .

also: equip smoke and you're safe from laserguided...

Dice loves cod and hates getting raped by skilled pilots , atleast since bf2

Very few pilots were skilled in BF2, they didn't have to be.  Gun range twice that of the fixed/known AA positions, a constant flow of flares, almost no mobile AA (not that it was very effective), no man-portable AA at all.  Pretty much nothing apart from homing missiles would do effective damage (which was almost irrelevent due to flares), and of course there were those who chose the cheats route of solo chopper scripts/macros.  Also, LOL @ tank shells not even doing 5% damage to a chopper!  You can't really claim BF2 pilots were skilled when the game was stacked so much in their favour so much that it wasn't funny (or fun if you're on the ground).  You actually had to be a really shit pilot to get shot down a bit, and even an average pilot could lock down a map.

Every map in BF4 has cover, you just need to know the map, know how to use that cover, and realise that this is BF4 & not BF2 - you're not invincible.  Heres a tip: Take the attack chopper up over the dam on lancang.  When you hear a lock/tracking tone, go below the dam line - the missiles will hit the dam, and the only thing you'll have to worry about is jets.  Also if you don't want to deal with active radar missiles, turn your aircraft once in a while.  When aiming AR's, I and many others will aim them into the expected path of an aircraft, its basically leading a shot - if you move, the missile won't hit you.

BVC wrote:

Every map in BF4 has cover, you just need to know the map, know how to use that cover, and realise that this is BF4 & not BF2 - you're not invincible.  Heres a tip: Take the attack chopper up over the dam on lancang.  When you hear a lock/tracking tone, go below the dam line - the missiles will hit the dam, and the only thing you'll have to worry about is jets.  Also if you don't want to deal with active radar missiles, turn your aircraft once in a while.  When aiming AR's, I and many others will aim them into the expected path of an aircraft, its basically leading a shot - if you move, the missile won't hit you.

It's incredibly easy to lead the helicopter even if they're moving wildly, and the missiles have a large radius of lock on so you only need to get somewhat close. That combined with the fact you don't know active missiles are coming until they're basically hitting you means that unless you want to fly randomly without actually having a moment to shoot at anything simply moving is not going to save you.

And if the AA fires a couple of metres above the dam wall on lancang the missiles will basically do a top down attack. Take another map like Zavod for example, I was all the way back in my uncap hiding down in the valley part so I could repair, next minute 2 active missiles fly right over the top come down and smack me in the only cover on that side of the map while the AA was on their back flag. 3D Spotting + Active missiles sure makes things easy on any map without good cover.

As for your hardware question, a x4 945 will definitely bottleneck a 280X so it's not really worth going down that road unless you upgrade the CPU not long after. Out of those two options the 270X + 8320 will probably be best (especially if you overclock the CPU) in the short term at least.

I love you snake, and all the other skilled players from bf2

as snake said you were able to do good in bf2 AA if you know how to play it.

yes I do know air vehicles were powerful in bf2 but if you were skilled you wouldnt get taken down , as jesus said ( ) in bf3/4 doesnt matter if youre skilled or not (casual gamers ftw = money for EA) you dont have much killing potential in air vehicles  (against anything else than other airvehicles ...if even that)

and if I understood you corectly BVC you thing soloing in a chopper is cheating/glitching?

but i liked 100% accurate pkms

You could tell the series was heading in the codified direction since bad company. People thought bf3 would be different because it was meant to be the sequel to bf2. Air power with a skilled pilot(s) is supposed to be heavy hitting, that's battlefield, there's numerous tanks/apcs/infantry/etc but usually only 1 heli per team and 1/2 jets per team. These vehicles used effectively could and should turn the tide of a round. I haven't played bf4 and I'm not sure I will, because it seems like it's just heading in the same direction with no regards to players of the older games. That's where the money is and all this was said when bf3 was out anyway, it's just a shame that this is probably the nail in the coffin.

stingers in DC worked just fine

Describes BF4 perfectly

mtb0minime wrote:

I can't wait to pre-order BF5 so I can get beta access to BF6

feels good

thepilot91 wrote:

and if I understood you corectly BVC you thing soloing in a chopper is cheating/glitching?

If done with macros/scripts (eg. AHK), then yes absolutely.  Commander scripts too, for that matter, though they weren't as bad as the chopper ones.

Brother bought me BF4 for christmas, decided to actually install it today. Anyway played a few rounds and have come to the conclusion BF4 is the worst fps I have ever played. It is just shit.

I don't find it too bad. It was actually fun. Last patch caused a lot of lag and lock ups though

I find it amusing as a csual shooter hurrdurr once a week or so , just because I've never really played cod , but as a battlefield game it just ...no feel ashamed puttimg them two words in the same sentence really.

cod with drivable killstreakrewardspunishments.

The waves annoy me when I'm in the patrol boat