It is a meme now. Not a movement.

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I would totally rock a job of just posting porn to the internet all day.Cybargs wrote:
you should put it on the cv
Dilbert_X wrote:
Found a very tired bat in a flower pot.
The bat rescue people took it away and are confident it will make a full recovery.
so basically you failed at the exam where you have to think & argue for yourself, rather than copping 50% of your marks on the 2eze option of memorising cases and statutesCybargs wrote:
today i just got my marks back for law
80 contracts
75 crim laws
74 torts
62 ethics
LOL ETHICS.
for americunts 75+ is an A whilst the 62 would be a B- or C+
yes. I really don't want to think. blackletterlaw4lyfe.uziq wrote:
so basically you failed at the exam where you have to think & argue for yourself, rather than copping 50% of your marks on the 2eze option of memorising cases and statutes
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Fuck man, what school do you go to? I've never heard of ANY law school that allows open book exams. I work with several lawyers daily from schools around the world (Canada, UK, Australia, US) and all they do is complain about the bad years of cramming info for exams. You don't go to Bond, do you?Cybargs wrote:
yes. I really don't want to think. blackletterlaw4lyfe.uziq wrote:
so basically you failed at the exam where you have to think & argue for yourself, rather than copping 50% of your marks on the 2eze option of memorising cases and statutes
oh it's all open book exams so we don't memorize shit. apply dat law mang.
UNSW and its pretty much top ranked lawl.Pocshy2.0 wrote:
Fuck man, what school do you go to? I've never heard of ANY law school that allows open book exams. I work with several lawyers daily from schools around the world (Canada, UK, Australia, US) and all they do is complain about the bad years of cramming info for exams. You don't go to Bond, do you?Cybargs wrote:
yes. I really don't want to think. blackletterlaw4lyfe.uziq wrote:
so basically you failed at the exam where you have to think & argue for yourself, rather than copping 50% of your marks on the 2eze option of memorising cases and statutes
oh it's all open book exams so we don't memorize shit. apply dat law mang.
Last edited by Cybargs (2015-12-10 17:37:31)
I get that. But so much of being a lawyer is needing to know an accurate answer off the top of your head. Nobody in a meeting is going to wait for you to open the text and figure out what it says. They're going to expect you to instantly know, and then for the analysis to follow. You learn to apply that vast body of knowledge while articling. Or at least that's how they all did it...Cybargs wrote:
UNSW and its pretty much top ranked lawl.Pocshy2.0 wrote:
Fuck man, what school do you go to? I've never heard of ANY law school that allows open book exams. I work with several lawyers daily from schools around the world (Canada, UK, Australia, US) and all they do is complain about the bad years of cramming info for exams. You don't go to Bond, do you?Cybargs wrote:
yes. I really don't want to think. blackletterlaw4lyfe.
oh it's all open book exams so we don't memorize shit. apply dat law mang.
The premise is there's no point making people cram to remember common law and statutes since it turns it into a rote memory game. They want to see if you can apply the law learned during semester. So if you don't make notes you're competing against people who know their shit and can apply it.
I've had friends who went to U Syd which is closed book and they said it was a really horrible system and you get marked based on rote memorization not on your actual legal writing.
Protip: It's harder to get into my lawschool than U syd lawl. It was 99.7 ATAR for UNSW and 99.6 for U Syd. And we're going to introduce an LSAT like exam for those applying for law in 2017.
In real life you get a lot of time to prepare for a case, you're not going to exactly know the specific statute. Generally when you see clients, you interview them and they wait around 20-30mins till you figure out solutions for them. Lawyers generally have a team of paralegals researching shit. When you specialize in an area you generally know all the common law/statute involved in the area. Most lawyers generally know the rules/law in the area but they'd hardly quote you the specific case/statute unless it's super common.Pocshy2.0 wrote:
I get that. But so much of being a lawyer is needing to know an accurate answer off the top of your head. Nobody in a meeting is going to wait for you to open the text and figure out what it says. They're going to expect you to instantly know, and then for the analysis to follow. You learn to apply that vast body of knowledge while articling. Or at least that's how they all did it...Cybargs wrote:
UNSW and its pretty much top ranked lawl.Pocshy2.0 wrote:
Fuck man, what school do you go to? I've never heard of ANY law school that allows open book exams. I work with several lawyers daily from schools around the world (Canada, UK, Australia, US) and all they do is complain about the bad years of cramming info for exams. You don't go to Bond, do you?
The premise is there's no point making people cram to remember common law and statutes since it turns it into a rote memory game. They want to see if you can apply the law learned during semester. So if you don't make notes you're competing against people who know their shit and can apply it.
I've had friends who went to U Syd which is closed book and they said it was a really horrible system and you get marked based on rote memorization not on your actual legal writing.
Protip: It's harder to get into my lawschool than U syd lawl. It was 99.7 ATAR for UNSW and 99.6 for U Syd. And we're going to introduce an LSAT like exam for those applying for law in 2017.
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Just saying man, the lawyers I work with get asked all kinds of random questions working in intergovernmental relations. Nobody has time to let them run away for 30min to go look something up. They also show up in teams of at least 3 so if 2 of them don't know, hopefully the 3rd does. Maybe it's just that speed and accuracy are important in what I do, I don't know.Cybargs wrote:
yeah what dilbs and zique said. gg bro
I know what you mean but lawyers generally aren't going to cite you the exact statute/common law but they'll tell you what the law is. If you're in a highly specialized area it's generally more expected you'd know the exact law by heart.Pocshy2.0 wrote:
Just saying man, the lawyers I work with get asked all kinds of random questions working in intergovernmental relations. Nobody has time to let them run away for 30min to go look something up. They also show up in teams of at least 3 so if 2 of them don't know, hopefully the 3rd does. Maybe it's just that speed and accuracy are important in what I do, I don't know.Cybargs wrote:
yeah what dilbs and zique said. gg bro
Depends on what the meeting is about. For transfer payment agreements and financial assistance you're often working on multi-million dollar transactions that need to happen within a few days, else the municipality's finances go to shit. If it's the feds we're dealing with, they simply don't have enough time for anything to let things drag out into multiple meetings/email chains.Dilbert_X wrote:
Why is speed so important? In my experience asking someone to solve an issue on the spot in a meeting often backfires - that's not what meetings are really for.
If you need to take 3 lawyers to a meeting you're really doing meetings wrong.