ComradeWho
Member
+50|7131|Southern California
ok did i miss something?
i thought that we were supposed to be able to pick up our claymores now, what happened to that?
what button is it?
did they even go through with that?
if im laying a claymore and the server has FF on for explosives (i understand the "not killing team mates" is an optional server-side feature), and i can't blow it up with a grenade anymore, how the hell am i supposed to prevent it from giving me negative points?
airborne916
Member
+24|7101
i think it dumb as hell, you can kill your team and you cant blow it up, it's so stupid.
number901
Member
+1|7110|uk
i have a feeling there will be another mini update very soon to fix and tweak some of these issuses , if not there should be
jOiNt_frAGGeR
Member
+11|7089
the AAs were very stupid, now they are godlike....the fixes against the bunny hoppers and others suck and the thing with explosives too, i would say that 1.12 was better...

Last edited by jOiNt_frAGGeR (2006-02-18 04:02:42)

pure_beef_69
Banned
+186|7082
stop whinin. bunny hoppin was a pain in the ass, glad it stopped. your just complain prbz cuz u cant shoot any1 without bunnyhoppin like a fag. dont run in2 ur explosives wen u plant them that wud help. and the aa's are a good thing makes flying more tricky and gives people on the ground more of a chance. go play another game if ur gonna whine
Tetrino
International OMGWTFBBQ
+200|7167|Uhh... erm...
Joy, now I'm never going to be able to fly. I am probably the only pre-1.2 pilot who can get shot down by AA.
xshenkangx
Member
+0|7092
i noticed that u cant jump and throw c4 now.. how the hell am i supose to do the award (expert) now
ProfLiebstrom
durka durka
+14|7270|Sheffield, UK
use claymores. Everyone else is.
Terry9878
Member
+0|7079
thank god i got my c4 badge b4 that stupid patch. i did it through kamakazi dragon flame throwing
ComradeWho
Member
+50|7131|Southern California

pure_beef_69 wrote:

stop whinin. bunny hoppin was a pain in the ass, glad it stopped. your just complain prbz cuz u cant shoot any1 without bunnyhoppin like a fag. dont run in2 ur explosives wen u plant them that wud help. and the aa's are a good thing makes flying more tricky and gives people on the ground more of a chance. go play another game if ur gonna whine
hey jerkoff
guess what?

assault class is supposed to have the most powerful weapon at close range. and in a videogame that means easy to use. calling grenade launcher "noob tubin" is ridiculous. you're supposed to be able to run into an area and clear it out with it - that's why it's called assault (wow crazy what a concept). now it's worthless. they've also significantly weakened the spec ops player by disallowing c4 throwing when the only problem was a glitch that allowed early detonation - they haven't even fixed that glitch. the spec ops player was the most powerful infantry weapon against armor - now it's neutered. they've increased the firepower of the support class. and why be medic when you can be support and get even more team points since support gets one every time team mates change a clip and support gets an uber weapon? why be assault when it has no team point bonus feature like medic or support and it's no longer more powerful than other classes? why be spec ops when you aren't gonna get many kills anymore? why be anti-tank so you can slowly wander into the crosshairs of a sniper or pkm - the DAO is powerful but you won't get a chance to use it against a support gunner now because he can kill you from much further off. so what do we have - we have the two most powerful classes as the classes the lay prone and fire from a distance, waiting for targets to enter their crosshairs. how cute. you know what that sounds like? it sounds like a patch designed for all the really crappy players who don't understand movement or game physics and were mad because they couldn't sit in some alley and get an easy kill cus someone would always kill them. it sounds like a patch for all the newbies who play for half an hour a day and who instead of trying to learn the game got mad and wanted the way everyone else played to changed to their crappy style. and you want proof? log unto any 64 person server and see each team with about half snipers and half support and a couple of the other classes lightly sprinkled in. infantry combat is dead you idiot because newbies like you whined and got the balance of the game messed with when you could have just learned how to avoid being in situation where you get "noob tubed" or could have rest assured that your team has a whole cadre of people with nade launchers using their power against the other team. RAH


anyways - so it's official - there's no way to pick up explosives except with engineer?

Last edited by ComradeWho (2006-02-18 12:25:53)

MuseSeeker
2142 Soldier: Behenaut
+110|7211|EUR
"assault class is supposed to have the most powerful weapon at close range."

Submachineguns/Shotguns

"calling grenade launcher "noob tubin" is ridiculous. you're supposed to be able to run into an area and clear it out with it - that's why it's called assault (wow crazy what a concept)."

Grenade launcher was ment to take out vehichles or a cluster of people at medium/long range. Running into a crowd of people with your gun aiming at your feet doesnt make sense. Especially when you come in bouncing like a rabbit

"now it's worthless."

hah! Just because one cant jump and shoot it is "worthless."

"the spec ops player was the most powerful infantry weapon against armor - now it's neutered."

Have you heard of stealth?

"why be assault when it has no team point bonus feature like medic or support and it's no longer more powerful than other classes? why be spec ops when you aren't gonna get many kills anymore?"

This game isnt about getting points Specops are to be tactically used and Assualts are still tough, Flashbangs/smokegrenades/G3 and a nade launcher which is still practical

"it sounds like a patch designed for all the really crappy players who don't understand movement or game physics"

hahaha the crappy players where the bunny hopping noob tubing c4 whores.

"it sounds like a patch for all the newbies who play for half an hour a day and who instead of trying to learn the game got mad and wanted the way everyone else played to changed to their crappy style. "

Crappy style? hah read above and go play some counter strike.
computermash
Member
+7|7100
I dont mind thew new GLs. The sights on them are now easier to use and u can get them further and round corners!!
ComradeWho
Member
+50|7131|Southern California

MuseSeeker wrote:

"assault class is supposed to have the most powerful weapon at close range."

Submachineguns/Shotguns

"calling grenade launcher "noob tubin" is ridiculous. you're supposed to be able to run into an area and clear it out with it - that's why it's called assault (wow crazy what a concept)."

Grenade launcher was ment to take out vehichles or a cluster of people at medium/long range. Running into a crowd of people with your gun aiming at your feet doesnt make sense. Especially when you come in bouncing like a rabbit

"now it's worthless."

hah! Just because one cant jump and shoot it is "worthless."

"the spec ops player was the most powerful infantry weapon against armor - now it's neutered."

Have you heard of stealth?

"why be assault when it has no team point bonus feature like medic or support and it's no longer more powerful than other classes? why be spec ops when you aren't gonna get many kills anymore?"

This game isnt about getting points Specops are to be tactically used and Assualts are still tough, Flashbangs/smokegrenades/G3 and a nade launcher which is still practical

"it sounds like a patch designed for all the really crappy players who don't understand movement or game physics"

hahaha the crappy players where the bunny hopping noob tubing c4 whores.

"it sounds like a patch for all the newbies who play for half an hour a day and who instead of trying to learn the game got mad and wanted the way everyone else played to changed to their crappy style. "

Crappy style? hah read above and go play some counter strike.
this post is worthless, baseless, and has nothing to do with a realistic assessment of the balance of the game and the way people actually play it.

i guess you're another one of those people who had an idea of the way it "ought" to be played and wanted a patch to conform everyone else's gameplay to it, rather than something that would you know - fix bugs or add new features.
Moonraker_x29
First man on Mars
+9|7126|England, GBR
1.20 OWNS. SIMPLE.

I told every fucker who bunny hopped against me on my reg server. you fuckin wait. I'll fuckin pwn your shit arse.

And erm. now I am!

Has anyone noticed how people still jump, and you just pwn them. it's like they still think you can bunny hop! lol
MuseSeeker
2142 Soldier: Behenaut
+110|7211|EUR
"this post is worthless, baseless, and has nothing to do with a realistic assessment of the balance of the game and the way people actually play it.

i guess you're another one of those people who had an idea of the way it "ought" to be played and wanted a patch to conform everyone else's gameplay to it, rather than something that would you know - fix bugs or add new features."

Yes because bunny hopping. Throwing c4 blindly over a fence. Running in a bunch of enemies with a grenade launcher at ones feet is how the games ment to be played. Listen the game will never be balanced because there will always be people like you supporting how the game is ment to be played like a deathmatch whilst there are others.
joker8baller
Member
+68|7103
The sights were changed (GL sights).


I didn't mind the bunny hoppers, just introduce them to the dao. Byee!!! lol
Esker
Member
+1|7163
Infantry sucks because it's too easy to get kills now that they've increase the accuracy and decreased infantry movement.

But you poor shots are bound to like these changes. I hope they change it back simply to piss off the pricks who keep screaming "Go play CS" like you could dolphin dive and spray like you could in BF2 in a game of CS...
ilyandor
Member
+31|7124|Phoenix, AZ

jOiNt_frAGGeR wrote:

....the fixes against the bunny hoppers and others suck and the thing with explosives too,...
4 WORDS;

YOU
HAVE
NO
POINT
.
JimCognito
Member
+10|7117
I've still got to mess around with the new patch and figure out all the changes.  I haven't checked and can't remember if it was included in this patch but I sure as hell hope Engineers can remove mines.  That was part of the original BF42 and should have been included at the launch of the game to keep with the series.  (you could always jump and shoot in the other games too, just so you know)

As far as claymores, why should anyone be able to remove those?  I thought claymores were set to go off if anyone got near them right?  How can you get close enough to remove them if thats the case?  Can you come up behind one and remove one in the real world?  Is the proximity detection only on the fornt 180 degree area?
uk.solidsnake
Member
+3|7144|England, UK
Two things I'd like to add in response to two previous posts.

"...this game isnt about getting points Specops are to be tactically used..."

Actually, this game is based solely around getting points. The ranking system proves this. More points equals better ranks, better weapons, better everything. Therefore the game is about getting points, as are all online shooters.

"...has anyone noticed how people still jump, and you just pwn them. it's like they still think you can bunny hop! lol..."

I bunnyhopped before the patch, I still jump around now, albeit less. I owned then and I own now. Stop assuming people bunnyhopped because they were noobs. This may be the case for some but I used it to avoid the typical onslaught of armour and so on. It kept me alive, thus making me a more efficient and ultimately better player. Now the patch has nerfed this, I die more in these situations, because there is nothing I can do against a tank or hoard of PKM/MG36 whores, but I get more kills since noone else can jump around either.

I'd also like to point out that everyone probably bunnyhopped sometime during their play time, regardless of whether they like to think they didn't. It was a reflex action. Jump out of the way into cover. It's not an exploit, it's common fucking sense.

Last edited by uk.solidsnake (2006-02-18 15:25:16)

JimCognito
Member
+10|7117

uk.solidsnake wrote:

Two things I'd like to add in response to two previous posts.

"...this game isnt about getting points Specops are to be tactically used..."

Actually, this game is based solely around getting points. The ranking system proves this. More points equals better ranks, better weapons, better everything. Therefore the game is about getting points, as are all online shooters.

"...has anyone noticed how people still jump, and you just pwn them. it's like they still think you can bunny hop! lol..."

I bunnyhopped before the patch, I still jump around now, albeit less. I owned then and I own now. Stop assuming people bunnyhopped because they were noobs. This may be the case for some but I used it to avoid the typical onslaught of armour and so on. It kept me alive, thus making me a more efficient and ultimately better player. Now the patch has nerfed this, I die more in these situations, because there is nothing I can do against a tank or hoard of PKM/MG36 whores, but I get more kills since noone else can jump around either.

I'd also like to point out that everyone probably bunnyhopped sometime during their play time, regardless of whether they like to think they didn't. It was a reflex action. Jump out of the way into cover. It's not an exploit, it's common fucking sense.
You couldn't be more right.
Antsy
Member
+0|7106
... let's look at the original post shall we... could we be more off-topic here?

in response to comradeWho - i don't believe you can retrieve/blow up the explosives which is my only complaint about the new patch really. i can sit sniping on top of the TV station now with a claymore on the top of the stairwell whilst i snipe away on top of a supply crate with the sweet sounds of people being blown back down 6 flights of stairs with bugger all they can do about it - not a very fair situation...
ComradeWho
Member
+50|7131|Southern California

MuseSeeker wrote:

"this post is worthless, baseless, and has nothing to do with a realistic assessment of the balance of the game and the way people actually play it.

i guess you're another one of those people who had an idea of the way it "ought" to be played and wanted a patch to conform everyone else's gameplay to it, rather than something that would you know - fix bugs or add new features."

Yes because bunny hopping. Throwing c4 blindly over a fence. Running in a bunch of enemies with a grenade launcher at ones feet is how the games ment to be played. Listen the game will never be balanced because there will always be people like you supporting how the game is ment to be played like a deathmatch whilst there are others.
another stupid post.
you live in abstraction - do you actually ever play the game?

buddy you are crazy
i just want to say that your inability to recognize the importance of balance, the reality of balance, and make a realistic assessment of the way people did and now do play the game is abundantly clear.
by making the game easier for the new players the already good players are able to completely dominate. my ratio for the few hours i've played since i've patched has been about 15:1 and i have bumped up my k/d ratio globally two tenths of a point in those same few hours. you fool, this patch has made it into a deathmatch by weakening the fast paced close range classes (assault and spec ops) and empowering the ones who sit and wait for kills in their crosshairs (support, sniper). that's why we see servers filled with half snipers half support now. it's all a killfest now you fool.

Last edited by ComradeWho (2006-02-18 17:21:25)

JimCognito
Member
+10|7117

Antsy wrote:

... let's look at the original post shall we... could we be more off-topic here?

in response to comradeWho - i don't believe you can retrieve/blow up the explosives which is my only complaint about the new patch really. i can sit sniping on top of the TV station now with a claymore on the top of the stairwell whilst i snipe away on top of a supply crate with the sweet sounds of people being blown back down 6 flights of stairs with bugger all they can do about it - not a very fair situation...
If you can get a shot off, then you are open enough to be sniped from someone else on the map.
number901
Member
+1|7110|uk
the original post was about explosive removal ? , every post is turning on the new patch ? people must have the right hump!

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