Ilocano
buuuurrrrrrppppp.......
+341|7255

Snuck up to a capping tank.  Dropped some mines.  Went on top of turret and popped a few shotgun rounds into the hatch to force the tanker to move. Tank blew up while I was still on top of the turret.  But I didn't get any health damage from the tank or mine explosion.  Glitch?
Skruples
Mod Incarnate
+234|7289
hax...


or yeah, maybe a glitch.
PheloniusRM
Member
+8|7286|Mission Viejo, CA
Mines suck so bad. I was in mashtuur standing on the road. Along came a vodnik. He saw me, I knew he would try to run me over and not shoot me so I stood there. Then I dropped a mine and backed away from it. He drove right over the damn thing and me too. No explosion. I was so mad. There must be some minimum time before it is ready or some crap. So the only time mines are cool is when you sneak up on a vehicle, but the mines are not active right away, so they drive away. Rule number one of bf2 is if you place a mine some noob teammate will run it over and punish you, then when the hell can you use them at all? I was reading that claymores and mines dont damage teammates, well that was proved very wrong....
Erwin_Rommel188
Member
+59|7273|Seattle
They aren't triggered by teammates, but they can still damage them if they are near it when it blows up.
SnobbyBoss
SAS Medic
+18|7328
No Teamdamage?
the_ubernoob_
Member
+8|7332
I thought the "smart mines" was an option turned on/off by individual servers.
PheloniusRM
Member
+8|7286|Mission Viejo, CA
Bs. I was commanding. I was killed at my hideout. I respawned at the nearest base and dropped 2 mines in the path from the base I got killed at and the base I spawned at. I went and hid again. Next thing I know I have neg 8 points and I got booted from a successful vote kick. I had zero kills. So tell me how an enemy triggered my mine, but didnt die, yet two teammates did die.
Sarrk
O-O-O A-O A
+788|7244|Brisbane, Australia

Smart mines was off, or you planted the mines, changed teams and then became commander, ive been autochanged mid battle and have gotten a few teamkills my self because of that
PheloniusRM
Member
+8|7286|Mission Viejo, CA
It is also bs that you get a death, a suicide and neg 2 points every time you get either disconnected or kicked from a server. It seems lately that I am losing connection from a server several times per night and the stat hits are pissing me off.
CackNBallz
Member
+45|7331|Toronto, Canada
One funny thing that happened last night was on Zatar Wetlands.  At the middle CP where the attack helicopter spawns there's a Stinger.  Well a teammate was on it, and me being an engineer wanted to repair it.  An artillery strike ensues, and my teammate and the stinger explode right in front of me from a direct shell hit while I am repairing the stinger.  I am however untouched for some reason, not even the shellshock effect.  I immediately jump off the building to further safety.

There seems to be some real bugs in the patch with damage and hitboxes.
Ugaminor
Member
+21|7261

PheloniusRM wrote:

Mines suck so bad. I was in mashtuur standing on the road. Along came a vodnik. He saw me, I knew he would try to run me over and not shoot me so I stood there. Then I dropped a mine and backed away from it. He drove right over the damn thing and me too. No explosion. I was so mad. There must be some minimum time before it is ready or some crap. So the only time mines are cool is when you sneak up on a vehicle, but the mines are not active right away, so they drive away. Rule number one of bf2 is if you place a mine some noob teammate will run it over and punish you, then when the hell can you use them at all? I was reading that claymores and mines dont damage teammates, well that was proved very wrong....
Yes there is a minimum "arming" time.  I'd say about 3-4 seconds.
CTD-CaptainBuck
BLEEDING BLUE
+71|7356|Tenn

PheloniusRM wrote:

It is also bs that you get a death, a suicide and neg 2 points every time you get either disconnected or kicked from a server. It seems lately that I am losing connection from a server several times per night and the stat hits are pissing me off.
yea thats retarded ive had well over 30 deaths in 3 days becuz of that...it dont seem like much but when u are 44-1 in a tank and then u get booted it automatically makes u 44-2 ... dont kno bout yous guys but i prefer a 44:1 ratio over a 22:1 any day
kilroy0097
Kilroy Is Here!
+81|7432|Bryan/College Station, TX
You know the funny thing here is all these replies and not one actually replied about the message the original poster posted. You all did actually READ the first post right? Or are you too busy yammering?

To the original poster. I don't know if it's a bug. I would have to test the theory out to see if it it. However we all know that people can get hurt or killed being next to an exploding vehicle. We know that enemy vehicles running over mines that are armed get destroyed. We know if we are in them or on a position within the vehicle (top gunner) we die. We also know if you are under the vehicle when the mine explodes you die.

However I have never tried being on top of a vehicle when it gets destroyed. It's very possible that the explosion damage doesn't go upward as a glitch in the game? Might have to test this out a few times to see if it happen and if so one which vehicles?
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis
Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|7325

PheloniusRM wrote:

Mines suck so bad. I was in mashtuur standing on the road. Along came a vodnik. He saw me, I knew he would try to run me over and not shoot me so I stood there. Then I dropped a mine and backed away from it. He drove right over the damn thing and me too. No explosion. I was so mad. There must be some minimum time before it is ready or some crap. So the only time mines are cool is when you sneak up on a vehicle, but the mines are not active right away, so they drive away. Rule number one of bf2 is if you place a mine some noob teammate will run it over and punish you, then when the hell can you use them at all? I was reading that claymores and mines dont damage teammates, well that was proved very wrong....
Have you ever noticed the large space underneath a vodnik? Just duck and let the sucker drive right over you!.

And about the mines, tank now have to drive with the tracks over them, instead of just being in its vicinity.

Mines are meant for tactical emplacement, not throwing them to your enemy when they are 10 feet away.
And it is correct that claymore and AT do not TEAMKILL, but when you are within the blast radius and an enemy decides to set it off it will kill/damage you.

And why are you attacking an enemy vehicle with an at mine? Here is a tip; throw the mine on top of the vehicle, always works. But if you plan on getting that close, do your team a favor, and do it as a spec ops.

Last edited by Bernadictus (2006-02-23 00:52:19)

Ilocano
buuuurrrrrrppppp.......
+341|7255

Bernadictus wrote:

PheloniusRM wrote:

Mines suck so bad. I was in mashtuur standing on the road. Along came a vodnik. He saw me, I knew he would try to run me over and not shoot me so I stood there. Then I dropped a mine and backed away from it. He drove right over the damn thing and me too. No explosion. I was so mad. There must be some minimum time before it is ready or some crap. So the only time mines are cool is when you sneak up on a vehicle, but the mines are not active right away, so they drive away. Rule number one of bf2 is if you place a mine some noob teammate will run it over and punish you, then when the hell can you use them at all? I was reading that claymores and mines dont damage teammates, well that was proved very wrong....
Have you ever noticed the large space underneath a vodnik? Just duck and let the sucker drive right over you!.

And about the mines, tank now have to drive with the tracks over them, instead of just being in its vicinity.

Mines are meant for tactical emplacement, not throwing them to your enemy when they are 10 feet away.
And it is correct that claymore and AT do not TEAMKILL, but when you are within the blast radius and an enemy decides to set it off it will kill/damage you.

And why are you attacking an enemy vehicle with an at mine? Here is a tip; throw the mine on top of the vehicle, always works. But if you plan on getting that close, do your team a favor, and do it as a spec ops.
Was a lone engineer at the time and didn't want the flag to turn.  Got impatient, since tank just stood there.  Most good tankers keep moving when capping.  And kinda curious if shooting into the hatch would do anything.

And regarding the room under the vodnik.  Yup, use it all the time.  A few weeks back, I GLed a vodnik that tried to ram me.  I was against a wall, GLed the vodnik, ducked as the vodnik crashed into the wall.  The vodnik then exploded above me, but I took no damage.  Pure luck?

Last edited by Ilocano (2006-02-23 11:11:49)

Ilocano
buuuurrrrrrppppp.......
+341|7255

kilroy0097 wrote:

You know the funny thing here is all these replies and not one actually replied about the message the original poster posted. You all did actually READ the first post right? Or are you too busy yammering?

To the original poster. I don't know if it's a bug. I would have to test the theory out to see if it it. However we all know that people can get hurt or killed being next to an exploding vehicle. We know that enemy vehicles running over mines that are armed get destroyed. We know if we are in them or on a position within the vehicle (top gunner) we die. We also know if you are under the vehicle when the mine explodes you die.

However I have never tried being on top of a vehicle when it gets destroyed. It's very possible that the explosion damage doesn't go upward as a glitch in the game? Might have to test this out a few times to see if it happen and if so one which vehicles?
I tried to do it again last night against a capping tanker in Sharqi.  The tank went the other way though.  It took the tanker a good 15 seconds or so to shake me off the turret though.  Wouldn't it be cool if we could jack tanks?  Throw in a grenade, kill the driver, and take the tank.

I would appreciate it if you could try it out.  I'm not part of a clan, so makes it kind of hard to get someone to help test it out.  As a side note, I may have jumped at the time of the explosion.  Can't be 100% sure though.
PheloniusRM
Member
+8|7286|Mission Viejo, CA
Another bullshit thing happened last night. I was taking a flag in a tank. Some retard in a chopper decides he wants to get a capture assist. He sat the chopper on top of me, we both blew up and I got neg 8 points for it (neg8 is from team kill, team damage, suicide). I wasn't even moving. I was irate to say the least.

To the person that complained that the thread got off topic; this message board discourages new threads so people add random information to existing threads.
CapnHerc
Member
+0|7222
Just a little off the subject but, I have layed down and a tank went over top of me (not the track) and I lived.  This happen to anybody else??
ST19AG_WGreymon
Member
+5|7329|Clinton, MD, USA
I got blown sky-high when I was on top of an APC. It hit a destroyed car and flipped up. I didn't recieve any damage till I landed.
Rathji
Member
+1|7271

CapnHerc wrote:

Just a little off the subject but, I have layed down and a tank went over top of me (not the track) and I lived.  This happen to anybody else??
Had it succeed with an APC and Vod/Hummer, but not a tank.
dracul
Member
+2|7396
Mines suck so bad. I was in mashtuur standing on the road. Along came a vodnik. He saw me, I knew he would try to run me over and not shoot me so I stood there. Then I dropped a mine and backed away from it. He drove right over the damn thing and me too. No explosion. I was so mad.
Both at mines and claymores have a 3 second safety-timer.

This is so you dont immediately blow yourself up.
Ilocano
buuuurrrrrrppppp.......
+341|7255

CapnHerc wrote:

Just a little off the subject but, I have layed down and a tank went over top of me (not the track) and I lived.  This happen to anybody else??
Pre-patch, yes, quite a few times.  After patch, each attempt, I got killed.
Ilocano
buuuurrrrrrppppp.......
+341|7255

ST19AG_WGreymon wrote:

I got blown sky-high when I was on top of an APC. It hit a destroyed car and flipped up. I didn't recieve any damage till I landed.
Couldn't deploy the parachute?
Rumfuddle
Member
+14|7306
I was MEC engineer on Kubra at the lower dam flag (the series of ramps).  I spawn 5 feet from an M1 rolling in and I assume I'm a dead man.  So I run as close as I can to the tank and start dropping mines.  M1 hits one of the mines while I've got my nose pretty much pressed against one of his tread skirts.  Boom.  I lost 3 bars of health in the whole transaction, and I think they were from bumping the tank with my body, not from the explosion.  Must be a glitch.

This a couple days ago post-patch.  Every time I've pulled a stunt like that before I've died in the explosion.

Last edited by Rumfuddle (2006-02-28 12:45:11)

Sphinctometer
Member
+2|7221

Ilocano wrote:

CapnHerc wrote:

Just a little off the subject but, I have layed down and a tank went over top of me (not the track) and I lived.  This happen to anybody else??
Pre-patch, yes, quite a few times.  After patch, each attempt, I got killed.
Once on 1.2.

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