a1911
Member
+0|7082
American nationalism at work...

You would never buy from a foreign company so you buy from their local offices and say it is all US made products you are buying.

And of course the best products by foreign companies are those that are developed at their US office.

Right.... and it is not pomme frittes... it is freedom fries!
batman_psu
Member
+3|7196
there is nothing wrong with nationalism.
chitlin
Banned
+36|7208
maybe you should get your facts straight before posting ignorance .. this was a joint project from the US military and H&K. the united states would never simply import a system for thier army for many reasons. one they require a tactical advantge that they want solely for themevles two that require an identity we refuse to simply adapt someone elses. there are more reasons but bottom line and something you either werent aware of or cant comprehend its a "joint venture" both in conception and manufacturing. the only thing h&k usa nad h&k have in common is thier owners.

subsidiary=A company for which a majority of the voting stock is owned by a holding company.
a1911
Member
+0|7082
Get the facts straight?
You talk about the scar?
It was not on the list of european weapons.
The scar is a US product! hurrayyyyy.....
Still, most BF2 weapons are European products.
Calm down man. Eat a donut!
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7165|California

a1911 wrote:

Get the facts straight?
You talk about the scar?
It was not on the list of european weapons.
The scar is a US product! hurrayyyyy.....
Still, most BF2 weapons are European products.
Calm down man. Eat a donut!
SCAR is by FN, i believe
a1911
Member
+0|7082
Like chitlin insists, the SCAR was developed by the FN office in the US.
For this reason I did not put it on the list of european weapons.
I knew someone like him would insist that it is not developed in belgium and therefore not a belgian weapon.
chitlin
Banned
+36|7208
im calm dude but it was you who dropped me in some nationalist propaganda just becuase i tried to clear up a misconeception. feel free to read my previous post where i said i admire german / belgian engineering.

scar is a system developed by fnh usa

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as70-e.htm
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7165|California

i respect only a few american weapons, the M series (m1, carbine, m14) m16 can blow me

AND remingtons
aslpride
Member
+6|7108
I want this gun! I can't find the name for it, but it is my dream gun in BF2.

http://www.rjsonline.net/~cehicks/gijoecomics97.jpg
a1911
Member
+0|7082
Isnt it funny that the only italian gun is a shotgun?

You know... the mafia and shotguns... like the sawn-off shotgun... hehehe
a1911
Member
+0|7082

aslpride wrote:

I want this gun! I can't find the name for it, but it is my dream gun in BF2.

http://www.rjsonline.net/~cehicks/gijoecomics97.jpg
Looks like some fantasy gun to me...
MuseSeeker
2142 Soldier: Behenaut
+110|7220|EUR

a1911 wrote:

I am so happy as a European to fight in BF2 as a European and not a terrorist, chinese or american.

Cant wait to fly the Eurofighter. See the real one here: http://www.eurofighter.com/

Most dont know that most BF2 weapons are European products (simply because the best weapons are developed here! )

I just dont understand why the 3 maps we get in "Euro Force" are not all European maps, a Greek, German and Finnish map would have been nice (one at the beach, one in vast mainland, one in artic conditions).
The Middle Eastern Coalition aernt terrorists, Im not buying it because Ive fed EA enough. Enjoy your game thoe.
MaximumMayhem
Member
+27|7096|Mashtuur Boulevard
From one European to another, you make for a poor ambassador if your narrowmindedness is anything to go by.

"I am so happy as a European to fight in BF2 as a European and not a [i]terrorist[i/], chinese or american.

The Middle Eastern Coalition may be somewhat fictional, but it's a union of Middle Eastern countries, just like the EU is a union of countries in Europe.  I would understand if your reference was towards the Rebels or Insurgents in Special Forces, but what made you think the MEC are a bunch or ragtag idealists fighting on the grounds of a jyhad here?


You seriously need to pull your head out of your ass before you make Europe look like it's filled with idiots of your mental calibre who unjustifiably put stereotypical labels on everyone.

Oh, and welcome to the boards, keep churning out pearls of wisdom like this one and I expect your stay will be short.
[anti]NorthBear
Member
+0|7108|Malmoe, Sweden

Vampira_NB wrote:

Devolant wrote:

lalalaa, usa buys swedish weaponry like fukin crazy, and u love our airplanes like JAs gripen etc..

u dunno what ur talking about.. hee
Learn to type.
Nothing to do with the guns etc.. But "learn to type"?
If you are to complain, do it in swedish you idiot!!!
How many language do you speak?
chitlin
Banned
+36|7208
that eurofighter is cool looking .. it would make a really awesome looking flaming pile of shit if it was in the air against any jsf ^^
E^9.Guarnere
Member
+1|7134
well the m4a1 with i belive you said was from italy is not it is from the usa made by the colt arms company and just like europe the united stats contracts alot of thier weapons *cough* isreal *cough*
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7135|Tampa Bay Florida
M.E.C. (even though they're not real) aren't terrorsists........ wow.

I thought the AR-15 (prototype of the M16) was developed by the Belgians?  I could be wrong.
l41e
Member
+677|7093

The AR-10 and AR-15 (bases of the M4, M4A1, M16, CAR-15, etc) were made by ArmaLite. ArmaLite in turn was a division of Fairchild Engine and Aircraft (makes the A-10).

Fairchild was a US company.

Edit: On the other hand, the BENELLI M4 shotgun is made by Benelli, an Italian corporation.

Last edited by k30dxedle (2006-02-25 08:06:04)

Slowpinger-GER-
Kermit was here...
+-1|7225|Hamburg
Its nice to see that a lot of people have respect for german arms producer......but i want to remind that we all paid for this knowledge with a second WW.
Be sure we are remembered (or reminded) in every opportunity.
l41e
Member
+677|7093

Yeah, HK rocks...but only 'cause of WWII...

(roller-delayed blowback used in G36, MP7, HK21, G3, MP5, UMP, PSG1, MG3...all comes from MG42)
soldevilla13
SuperFly
+21|7167|oregon

=FDX=VEga wrote:

34766 wrote:

the l85 is a really bad design to physically use in combat due to its clip location and its hammer.
(my cousin owns one and ive used it in airsoft tournaments, its badly designed)
Seriously, you're basing your evaluation of a weapon on an airsoft toy? I've been using the L85 for years (a real one - not a toy) and its a great weapon, ok the A1 had some teething problems but its fine as an A2.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'clip' location, we were told that if we called them clips we would be severely beaten - its a MAGAZINE and it's located where it is because the L85 is a bullpup weapon.

My vote for the worlds finest modern weapons goes to Germany, with Belgium a close second. Through the course of history it would most certainly be Britain.
lol you are a brit arent you? a little cheap on the best modern weapons.
=FDX=VEga
Carlos Hathcock Jr
+7|7157|'Ull, Yorkshire, England

soldevilla13 wrote:

=FDX=VEga wrote:

34766 wrote:

the l85 is a really bad design to physically use in combat due to its clip location and its hammer.
(my cousin owns one and ive used it in airsoft tournaments, its badly designed)
Seriously, you're basing your evaluation of a weapon on an airsoft toy? I've been using the L85 for years (a real one - not a toy) and its a great weapon, ok the A1 had some teething problems but its fine as an A2.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'clip' location, we were told that if we called them clips we would be severely beaten - its a MAGAZINE and it's located where it is because the L85 is a bullpup weapon.

My vote for the worlds finest modern weapons goes to Germany, with Belgium a close second. Through the course of history it would most certainly be Britain.
lol you are a brit arent you? a little cheap on the best modern weapons.
A little cheap? I'm not sure what you mean but I guess you disapprove of my saying that Germany make the finest weapons and would have rather I said the US?

And yes I am a 'Brit'
a1911
Member
+0|7082
Yes the Benelli M4 (called the Mafia execution device by me, lol) is the new euro force shotgun.

These are the new Euro Force weapons:

Those weapons are the semi-auto Benelli M4 shotgun (carried by Engineer), the FAMAS assault rifle (Medic), the P90 (Anti-Tank), the big old HK21 (Support), the HK53A3 assault rifle (Spec Ops), the L96A1 sniper rifle (Sniper), and the SA80 L85A2 (Assault), an upgraded variant of the British SA80 assault rifle that soldiers always complain about on the news.
Azr4eL
Member
+0|7237|Italy
Just for puntualizing about: Benelli is a brand (now) from Beretta.
And (cohgh cough) Beretta 92FS... Maibe someone know that?
http://www.beretta.it/index.aspx?m=74&idc=2
ilyandor
Member
+31|7134|Phoenix, AZ
did you know that over 63% of the stock weapons in BF2 are RUSSIAN?

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