n1nj41c l337ne55
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+1|7202|Pittsburgh, Virginia lol

deagle_23 wrote:

Wy is it so hard to imagine that the US could be invaded. What if there would be nuclear war? As much as I know the US CAN NOT reppell a full attack from the russians. Imagine all major cities destroyed, most of the military wiped out and so on. It would be total chaos.

China has a enormous army, if they for some reason wold like to invade USA, that would be the time.
If somone nuked us, by the time the nukes struck, our nukes, THOUSANDS OF THEM, would already be launched and flying.

Last edited by n1nj41c l337ne55 (2006-02-27 14:12:29)

JRVoss
Member
+0|7102
Why invade when they are beating us economically, death of a 1000 cuts.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7148|Tampa Bay Florida

Skruples wrote:

As other people have mentioned, invading the U.S would be an excercise in futility. Yes, China does have an insane number of soldiers in its army, but they're also 10000 miles away across the Pacific ocean, with the worlds most powerful navy and airforce in the way. Now imagine that china did, actually, decide that the American pigdogs must die. Not only would their supply lines be staggering, they would have to protect that supply line across the largest ocean in the world, at the mercy of U.S forces. As far as I know, China has no active aircraft carriers, meaning the United States would have absolute air superiority as well as the defensive advantage, and even defensive sorties over the ocean would have to be launched from mainland China, while the U.S can launch from Hawaii, even without carriers. Simply put? No military commander in their right mind would invade the continental U.S, and if they did they would almost certainly lose.
Not in the year 2006, you mean.  In 10-20 years China might have a fleet of carriers, 3 times the amount of soldiers in their Army now, and we (the United States) might have 1/2 the amount of manpower and soldiers.

Bf2 is fictional... and it takes place sometime in the near FUTURE....... did anyone even read my earlier post?
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7101

Spearhead wrote:

Skruples wrote:

As other people have mentioned, invading the U.S would be an excercise in futility. Yes, China does have an insane number of soldiers in its army, but they're also 10000 miles away across the Pacific ocean, with the worlds most powerful navy and airforce in the way. Now imagine that china did, actually, decide that the American pigdogs must die. Not only would their supply lines be staggering, they would have to protect that supply line across the largest ocean in the world, at the mercy of U.S forces. As far as I know, China has no active aircraft carriers, meaning the United States would have absolute air superiority as well as the defensive advantage, and even defensive sorties over the ocean would have to be launched from mainland China, while the U.S can launch from Hawaii, even without carriers. Simply put? No military commander in their right mind would invade the continental U.S, and if they did they would almost certainly lose.
Not in the year 2006, you mean.  In 10-20 years China might have a fleet of carriers, 3 times the amount of soldiers in their Army now, and we (the United States) might have 1/2 the amount of manpower and soldiers.

Bf2 is fictional... and it takes place sometime in the near FUTURE....... did anyone even read my earlier post?
lets not forget that 10-20 years from now India will surpass china in population.  India and China have had a history of conflict.  India v. China is the next major war
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7148|Tampa Bay Florida
Plus, and I'm not saying it would be easier, but if China wanted to they wouldn't have to cross an "ocean".

They could go north, through the Arctic.  They would land in Canada, in perfect position to strike at the U.S.

Another route would be landing in South America, where there would be relatively zero resistance compared to North America.  Then they could go north, strike the U.S. via Mexico and the Gulf of Mexico, and by that time we would be surrounded (landwise).

I know moving hundreds of thousands and maybe even millions of troops through the arctic isn't really possible, but I'm just making a point.

Last edited by Spearhead (2006-02-27 14:28:05)

Major_Jack_ONeill
Member
+0|7093
There should be US city maps in the new booster pack. Perhaps Washington DC, New York or LA or all 3 would be better. Like for the WQashington map you would have to protect the Pentagon., White House and The Capital building. An dall three of those building would have exact rooms and hallways to go through. That would be awesome. hopefully on the Highway map in Amored Fury they are going to be a lot of tanks.

By the way I heard that China is in the making of a 6-engine strategic bomber, possibly stealthly too. Not sure let on the details. But China cant really invade our mainland really through sea transports, they would have to do what the Russinas did in Red Dawn, use commerical planes to drop troops around the US. But they would probably fail even if they got a couple 100 thousand men on our ground.
BushRanger007
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+1|7123

Skruples wrote:

As other people have mentioned, invading the U.S would be an excercise in futility. Yes, China does have an insane number of soldiers in its army, but they're also 10000 miles away across the Pacific ocean, with the worlds most powerful navy and airforce in the way. Now imagine that china did, actually, decide that the American pigdogs must die. Not only would their supply lines be staggering, they would have to protect that supply line across the largest ocean in the world, at the mercy of U.S forces. As far as I know, China has no active aircraft carriers, meaning the United States would have absolute air superiority as well as the defensive advantage, and even defensive sorties over the ocean would have to be launched from mainland China, while the U.S can launch from Hawaii, even without carriers. Simply put? No military commander in their right mind would invade the continental U.S, and if they did they would almost certainly lose.
See alot of the posts to this thread are talking about present times, but in the future, Wars will be fought no matter what cost and no matter what soil they are on, if someone wants a country to suffer they will ensure it happens without a UN charter or with,  and it is naive to think that the World's biggest SuperPower will not be a target by a Wannabe SuperPower again.

But it's  like what  Rosevelt said" We Will Prevail", and I pray for the day that it never happens that we as people of this planet face a war that extends across nations.

To answer your questions about AirCraft Carrier I found this.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ … ina/cv.htm
BushRanger007
Member
+1|7123

Spearhead wrote:

Plus, and I'm not saying it would be easier, but if China wanted to they wouldn't have to cross an "ocean".

They could go north, through the Arctic.  They would land in Canada, in perfect position to strike at the U.S.

Another route would be landing in South America, where there would be relatively zero resistance compared to North America.  Then they could go north, strike the U.S. via Mexico and the Gulf of Mexico, and by that time we would be surrounded (landwise).

I know moving hundreds of thousands and maybe even millions of troops through the arctic isn't really possible, but I'm just making a point.
Very true, I made the comment to Scottish people whilst over there,  that if Hitler really wanted London all he had to do was invade threw Scotland and take it like William Wallace, it would have been a piece of cake.
d3v1ldr1v3r13
Satan's disciple on Earth.
+160|7143|Hell's prison
QUIET!!! this is a game and it would be awesome if a level was inside a target or wal mart
That would rock so much!
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7219

d3v1ldr1v3r13 wrote:

QUIET!!! this is a game and it would be awesome if a level was inside a target or wal mart
That would rock so much!
Wal-Mart huh?  What would the scenerio be?   Call the map Hurricane Katrina, one side looters and the other side the National Guard?

Last edited by usmarine2005 (2006-02-27 14:46:11)

CaptainMike
It's just a flesh wound
+45|7103|Canada
Quicksight13
Member
+0|7093
sweet
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7132|Canberra, AUS
cool, i want the a10
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
fuzzyballs44
Member
+3|7167|Coeur D' Alene, ID

lavadisk wrote:

Seriphyn wrote:

The scenario of the US being invaded in real-life is very unlikely (they'd probably nuke anyone who gets close) but who cares? It's something we rarely see in modern day first-person shooters; it's usaully set in Africa, the Middle East and the Far East. But what's this? In the US! Now THAT's interesting...

And if you're a US nationalist, you don't need to complain citing how unrealistic it is. Just go kill those MEC and Chinese SOBs!
QUIET!!! this is a game and it would be awesome if a level was inside a target or wal mart
actuaaalllllyyyy haha that would be pretty sweet.....being in "womens delicates" proned out with a PKM lit up towards a Freedom Army of the Republic of Target (FART) soldier ducked out in housewares
Drunkaholic
Member
+4|7182

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

Skruples wrote:

As other people have mentioned, invading the U.S would be an excercise in futility. Yes, China does have an insane number of soldiers in its army, but they're also 10000 miles away across the Pacific ocean, with the worlds most powerful navy and airforce in the way. Now imagine that china did, actually, decide that the American pigdogs must die. Not only would their supply lines be staggering, they would have to protect that supply line across the largest ocean in the world, at the mercy of U.S forces. As far as I know, China has no active aircraft carriers, meaning the United States would have absolute air superiority as well as the defensive advantage, and even defensive sorties over the ocean would have to be launched from mainland China, while the U.S can launch from Hawaii, even without carriers. Simply put? No military commander in their right mind would invade the continental U.S, and if they did they would almost certainly lose.
Not in the year 2006, you mean.  In 10-20 years China might have a fleet of carriers, 3 times the amount of soldiers in their Army now, and we (the United States) might have 1/2 the amount of manpower and soldiers.

Bf2 is fictional... and it takes place sometime in the near FUTURE....... did anyone even read my earlier post?
lets not forget that 10-20 years from now India will surpass china in population.  India and China have had a history of conflict.  India v. China is the next major war
No, there will be an Indo-Pakistani and perhaps another Arab-Israeli war before that happens
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|7123|NT, like Mick Dundee

MEMEMEMEMME I want Armoured Fury and Euroforce...

Prefer Armoured Fury though, will EA support 64 player maps for Armoured Fury? I want to fly a little bird with C4 on the front... Hehe, Jihad Chopper.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
ilyandor
Member
+31|7146|Phoenix, AZ

lavadisk wrote:

Seriphyn wrote:

The scenario of the US being invaded in real-life is very unlikely (they'd probably nuke anyone who gets close) but who cares? It's something we rarely see in modern day first-person shooters; it's usaully set in Africa, the Middle East and the Far East. But what's this? In the US! Now THAT's interesting...

And if you're a US nationalist, you don't need to complain citing how unrealistic it is. Just go kill those MEC and Chinese SOBs!
QUIET!!! this is a game and it would be awesome if a level was inside a target or wal mart
lol!

I wish EA DICE would do a level of NYC, with one side as terrorists, one side US...
DarkObsidian
Member
+6|7094|Arizona, USA

deagle_23 wrote:

Wy is it so hard to imagine that the US could be invaded. What if there would be nuclear war? As much as I know the US CAN NOT reppell a full attack from the russians. Imagine all major cities destroyed, most of the military wiped out and so on. It would be total chaos.

China has a enormous army, if they for some reason wold like to invade USA, that would be the time.
It's education time!
2006 PLA Forces

Total : 3,098,000

Source : http://www.sinodefence.com/
----------------------------------------------------------
US Forces

Total : 1,427,000

Source : http://wikipedia.org/

Yes, the Chinese military is roughtly 2.5 times larger than ours (The U.S).
However, there are 80,000,000 registered gun owners in the US.
I stand by my point, it'd be impossible for any country to invade the mainland of the US.

EDIT: Sorry, forgot to respond to the Russian theory.
Russian is in no way near it's former self, which in fact was a festering wound which eventually collapsed the USSR.
Russian Forces

Total : 1,130,000

Source : http://wikipedia.org/

Last edited by DarkObsidian (2006-02-28 00:32:49)

armin
Member
+0|7214| Bosnia & Herzegovina
wow, only 10 bucks for a few maps... what a rip off...
l=l-Oneill-l=l
Member
+27|7295|Dundas, ONT, Canada

KillerKane0 wrote:

<{SoE}>Agamemnar wrote:

Fuzzball_the_Shooter wrote:

Looks awesome, hope there's LA.
I'd love to blow that poser infested shithole to smithereens.

Too bad theres no Toronto to fuck up.
Having lived there, it would be so nice to give that awful place a thorough pounding.  Terrible place to live, with absolutely the most repellant people on Earth: racist, arrogant, and greedy.  And those are the nice people!
Are we talking about Toronto or LA?

Plus you must be senators fan.

Last edited by l=l-Oneill-l=l (2006-03-26 09:44:09)

Schw3nk3r
Member
+3|7087|Candy Land
When Is It Being Released?@?@?@?
Immolated_Turtle
Member
+0|7068
Im excited about. It should be a lot better than euroforce was, however unrealistic the setting may be.
DebonairXcel
Member
+40|7071|Minnesota
Mmm, I think the U.S. could be invaded successfully.  While we may have fire power, most of it is at airbases across the globe and on carriers.  Additionally, if it came between the U.S. and China, my bets would be that sure the US would proobably hold its own throughout the conflict, but keeping the Chinese from invading would be like trying to repel Asian Beetles. Still, goodness knows I'm hoping it doesn't come to that ever.
1927
The oldest chav in the world
+2,423|7131|Cardiff, Capital of Wales

Ac1dh0u$3 wrote:

gotta laff because last time the topic of this expansion pack was talked about, you all went off on one about "you cant attack the us"

on a normal day with a normal war as everybody knows it your probaly right...

but anyone that wanted to attack the us wouldn't be that stupid as to try it that way, its not the way wars are fought these days

as far as i can remember osmama bin ladden killed 3000 people was it ? in 2001

and that was in about 4 hours
Apparently, or so they tell us.
1927
The oldest chav in the world
+2,423|7131|Cardiff, Capital of Wales
Listen to you yanks, "Who cares about Euro" etc. You wouldnt have baseball (the welsh miners invented) or hot dogs (some fella from Derby invented). If it wasn't for the Euro's and thats your history isn't it?

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