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2006-03-14 15:38:55
bobroonie.bda
Member
+143|7135
you all say its "spawn camping", "whoreing", unfair to attack uncable flags. If you have ever played in single player and create a squad the first order from  the comp commander is to attack the non capable flag. which pretty much means when playing online its all fair game. I did it before and ill keep doing it. The best is on clean sweep taking the plane taxing over blowing up there uav and radar, taking an apc and camping the air field. Flame away its funny shit and not much you can do about it.

Last edited by bobroonie.bda (2006-03-14 15:39:17)

2006-03-14 15:46:37
deject
Got His War On
+37|7227|Golden, CO

bobroonie.bda wrote:

you all say its "spawn camping", "whoreing", unfair to attack uncable flags. If you have ever played in single player and create a squad the first order from  the comp commander is to attack the non capable flag. which pretty much means when playing online its all fair game. I did it before and ill keep doing it. The best is on clean sweep taking the plane taxing over blowing up there uav and radar, taking an apc and camping the air field. Flame away its funny shit and not much you can do about it.

http://img.tehsig.com/usr_23194/tpl_0/image.jpg
Do you understand how A.I. works?  If you did, you'd know why that happens...
2006-03-14 16:10:05
belikeron
Member
+-1|7087
Yea I love the Ai in sp, like when someone jumps in your sea cobra, or f-15 while your practicing....and then just sits there and never uses a missle! So next time im in MP and someone jumps in my chopper im gonna tell them to just sit there and look at the pretty scenery.
2006-03-14 16:14:08
PheloniusRM
Member
+8|7152|Mission Viejo, CA
Whether or not you agree with the concept of attacking uncaps, there is one simple rule to follow. Do what the server rules say. There are lots of servers that allow this. There are lots of servers that dont allow this. Do not be a jack ass and insist on going into servers that do not allow it and insist that you have the right to do it because the first order from the single player commander tells you to.
2006-03-14 16:51:09
[BB]Mort
Member
+3|7073|Sydney
While I *hate* it when choppers and armour camp on uncappables (especially if they are the only flag left) I'm not sure why it is against the rules...

If you look at the maps, there is ground based TOW, AA and machine gun emplacements at many of the uncappables, even the ones that are placed a long way from the rest of the action (US on Dragon!). If EA had intended to prevent anyone attacking an uncappable, why put that hardware there?

One thing I think that would stop people going on about it as well is if they learned to join squads and even squad-hop, then leave and form a new squad when they get away from a besieged flag. It never ceases to amaze me how many times I see a single person capping a flag somewhere and they aren't even in a squad. If they formed a squad as Squad Leader, they could have plenty of guys spawn on them to help cap the flag and cover ther butt.

Next time a tank or APC is raping your base, wait a miute so your whole squad can spawn at the same time as anti-tank and take them out, don't keep spawning individually and getting owned all the time! Whether it's an uncappable or a cappable flag should make no difference to the fact you should WORK AS A SQUAD and take the campers out!
2006-03-14 17:01:13
drunk-eddie
Member
+0|7073
hmm,,  interesting post,,,,,   maybe the players are at the non cappable flag because jack asses like you know where all the spawn points are and continue to pad your fukn kill count by waxing them before they even get a chance to fire back,,  and that is the only place they can spawn,,,  so its a legit rule and should be followed,,,,
2006-03-14 17:09:19
MooseRyder
Member
+37|7109|Montréal, Canada
people bitch and whine all the time when they get base rapped, but when they are base raping you dont hear them at all. so just suck it up and play and stop being hypocrites.
2006-03-14 17:29:55
drunk-eddie
Member
+0|7073

MooseRyder wrote:

people bitch and whine all the time when they get base rapped, but when they are base raping you dont hear them at all. so just suck it up and play and stop being hypocrites.
never have and never will,,  and was not bitching ( read it again ) I was making a statement.
2006-03-14 17:43:53
EVIL_STYX
TANK WHORE
+62|7136|FIVE RIVERS OF HELL

drunk-eddie wrote:

hmm,,  interesting post,,,,,   maybe the players are at the non cappable flag because jack asses like you know where all the spawn points are and continue to pad your fukn kill count by waxing them before they even get a chance to fire back,,  and that is the only place they can spawn,,,  so its a legit rule and should be followed,,,,
All I have to say to that is this is a WAR game if you know where the enemy is going to be then that is where I will be. If you are in a situation to where that is your only spawn point that is the best time for me to go there. Bottom line is the goal of this game is to drop the enemy tickets before they drop yours. If that is where the enemy is coming from then that is where I will be (period). I think that rule is for sissy cry baby la-la's, like yourself. That is in no way shape or form of padding I might add. If your team sucks and that is the only point you have then you deserve to get your ass's handed to you, this is a WAR game for crying out loud. 

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2006-03-14 17:48:48
=Robin-Hood=
A stranger in the dark
+213|7274|Belgium

@bobroonie.bda The Easter rabbit is early this year

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2006-03-14 17:51:07
MooseRyder
Member
+37|7109|Montréal, Canada

drunk-eddie wrote:

MooseRyder wrote:

people bitch and whine all the time when they get base rapped, but when they are base raping you dont hear them at all. so just suck it up and play and stop being hypocrites.
never have and never will,,  and was not bitching ( read it again ) I was making a statement.
i know i wasnt aiming anyone that posted above me,

Its only i seen sooo many times poeple bitching about it, then when they were base rapping us, it was all good.

I dont care being base raped cuz i like to do it too, but i dont start bitching when it happen, i try to find a solution  to the problem and adopt to situations instead of wasting time typing and whining.
2006-03-14 18:01:12
drunk-eddie
Member
+0|7073

MooseRyder wrote:

drunk-eddie wrote:

MooseRyder wrote:

people bitch and whine all the time when they get base rapped, but when they are base raping you dont hear them at all. so just suck it up and play and stop being hypocrites.
never have and never will,,  and was not bitching ( read it again ) I was making a statement.
i know i wasnt aiming anyone that posted above me,

Its only i seen sooo many times poeple bitching about it, then when they were base rapping us, it was all good.

I dont care being base raped cuz i like to do it too, but i dont start bitching when it happen, i try to find a solution  to the problem and adopt to situations instead of wasting time typing and whining.
I hear ya there,  Im new to BF2 ( three weeks max today )and my first match I became a rape victim LOL,, so I am traumatized. It was not a very fun experience, I thought about going back to Americas Army with my tail between my legs. I suppose trying to work your way out of it is more challenging than killing a player the second he spawns. It will always exist and is a part of the game,,,, but when this happens some of the more experienced players should make a point in showing some intestinal fortitude and even the teams. Also I guess you know its coming too when the opposing team makes a b-line for the spawn area the second the match starts,
2006-03-14 18:06:17
strangelove
HOBO SPIRIT
+77|7074|the side hatch
i have noticed on several 'no-raping-uncapables' servers lately that one team will not even try to take ANY flags the entire game, they will however try to steal the other teams planes and helos

this has happened quite often to me recently, on a wake or dalian map for example, the US team will eventualy end up with ALL airborne vehicles and since none of them care about winning, just flying, the game will just drag on and on and on. Unless you are in AA (which are destoyed almost immediatly) all you get to do it stand around and wait to get bombed...oh' or get into a vod or an apc and hit with a tv missle immediatly


edited for grammar

Last edited by strangelove (2006-03-14 18:08:39)

2006-03-14 18:12:32
Drunken_Tankdriver
Member
+81|7106

bobroonie.bda wrote:

Flame away its funny shit and not much you can do about it.
lol....
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2006-03-14 18:24:33
Wild1234
Member
+1|7139

EVIL_STYX wrote:

All I have to say to that is this is a WAR game if you know where the enemy is going to be then that is where I will be. If you are in a situation to where that is your only spawn point that is the best time for me to go there.
Meh, just 2 problems with that.

1: As your say, its a game. Games are ment to be enjoyed not frustraited because you are unable to acually play the game. (no, spanw/die/spawn/die/spawn/you get the idea is not playing the game.) I agree you should lock them into their uncap, but keep your troops outside of the base so people dont get killed before they even know a war is going on. If the team is bad enough to get stuck in their uncap your winning anyways, so why not let the other team acually play a bit? Which would acually help you as they wouldnt just all quit the server and you could keep winning game after game;P

2: You dont run across enemies who are completly unaware of what is going on in war. What your doing isnt a surprise attack, its going into the cradle and killing them before they even know you are an enemy or which way is up. (ok, maybe thats not a very good comparison, but you get what I'm saying).

Meh, do as you will. If I find myself on a server with teams so unbalanced I just leave rather than bothering to play these days. On the losing side you fight a losing battle, on the winning side its no challenge and no fun. Really, how can anybody consider sitting in an enemy uncap killing helpless people over and over again fun? where is the challenge in that?
2006-03-14 18:40:58
ghostgr
177th Field Artillery
+39|7195|In your head

bobroonie.bda wrote:

you all say its "spawn camping", "whoreing", unfair to attack uncable flags. If you have ever played in single player and create a squad the first order from  the comp commander is to attack the non capable flag. which pretty much means when playing online its all fair game. I did it before and ill keep doing it. The best is on clean sweep taking the plane taxing over blowing up there uav and radar, taking an apc and camping the air field. Flame away its funny shit and not much you can do about it.
It is against EA's Rules of Engagement.....whether you like it or not you have to follow them....just like everyone else.
2006-03-14 18:50:35
FromTheAshes
Member
+53|7158

ghostgr wrote:

bobroonie.bda wrote:

you all say its "spawn camping", "whoreing", unfair to attack uncable flags. If you have ever played in single player and create a squad the first order from  the comp commander is to attack the non capable flag. which pretty much means when playing online its all fair game. I did it before and ill keep doing it. The best is on clean sweep taking the plane taxing over blowing up there uav and radar, taking an apc and camping the air field. Flame away its funny shit and not much you can do about it.
It is against EA's Rules of Engagement.....whether you like it or not you have to follow them....just like everyone else.
No it's not, you need to read it. It's an option admins can put on. I just play on servers with this not against the rules.
2006-03-14 19:13:16
bobroonie.bda
Member
+143|7135

FromTheAshes wrote:

ghostgr wrote:

bobroonie.bda wrote:

you all say its "spawn camping", "whoreing", unfair to attack uncable flags. If you have ever played in single player and create a squad the first order from  the comp commander is to attack the non capable flag. which pretty much means when playing online its all fair game. I did it before and ill keep doing it. The best is on clean sweep taking the plane taxing over blowing up there uav and radar, taking an apc and camping the air field. Flame away its funny shit and not much you can do about it.
It is against EA's Rules of Engagement.....whether you like it or not you have to follow them....just like everyone else.
No it's not, you need to read it. It's an option admins can put on. I just play on servers with this not against the rules.
exactly

you know whats funny. i have been spawn killed sure, that happens alot. but never spawn camped as you would say. when the enemy's in my uncapable and i have no where else to spawn, i kill a few guys and get away to start capping flags again. the problem is not the campers but the non skilled people walking around with there heads up there ass no knowing what to do in certin situations. all they do is type  cry / bitch. and if you want to leave the server great im sure theres a line of people waiting to get in. and if the server dies no problem there are more servers to go kill on. and yes it is a game and people are suposed to play for fun. guess what. Its fun for me and thats what counts. you guys can talk all the shit you want. none of my stats are padded. and im way better infantry / armor guy / squad leader then most people that play BF2. deal with it.
2006-03-14 19:24:32
Nanoaug
Member
+0|7078
If you lose all your flags u deserve to be camped anyway. Honestly what do you expect people to do, wait politely for you at the nearest flag until you get there? No.. no one wants to wait around for some losers. The hilarious part is, ive been on bad teams where we ended up losing our flags and spawning at the base, and NOBODY GOES FOR FLAGS. They all wait around the base like its some last stand, idiots.
2006-03-14 19:24:50
ghostgr
177th Field Artillery
+39|7195|In your head

bobroonie.bda wrote:

FromTheAshes wrote:

ghostgr wrote:


It is against EA's Rules of Engagement.....whether you like it or not you have to follow them....just like everyone else.
No it's not, you need to read it. It's an option admins can put on. I just play on servers with this not against the rules.
exactly

you know whats funny. i have been spawn killed sure, that happens alot. but never spawn camped as you would say. when the enemy's in my uncapable and i have no where else to spawn, i kill a few guys and get away to start capping flags again. the problem is not the campers but the non skilled people walking around with there heads up there ass no knowing what to do in certin situations. all they do is type  cry / bitch. and if you want to leave the server great im sure theres a line of people waiting to get in. and if the server dies no problem there are more servers to go kill on. and yes it is a game and people are suposed to play for fun. guess what. Its fun for me and thats what counts. you guys can talk all the shit you want. none of my stats are padded. and im way better infantry / armor guy / squad leader then most people that play BF2. deal with it.

http://img.tehsig.com/usr_23194/tpl_0/image.jpg
Ok then what does this tell you?

3 LOCAL (PRIVATELY RENTED) RANKED SERVER RULES MODIFICATIONS

These are rules that are not enforced upon in EA’s public ranked servers but may be modified in privately rented ranked servers. These rules are decided by clan administrators for those servers and as long as they do not contradict any global rules enforced by EA are considered valid for those servers.

This would include but not limited to:
§ Artillery fire or bombing runs on main (uncapturable) bases may be prohibited.
§ Prolonged or sustained attacks on main (uncapturable) bases (i.e. spawncamping).
§ Using the Transport Helicopters to take flags (Blackhawk whoring or flag hopping).
§ Impersonating clan members.
§ Using C4 on jeeps, or other fast moving vehicles to take out other vehicles.
§ Clans may change or customise rules, provided they don’t violate the above ROE rules.


This says to me no spawncamping!
2006-03-14 20:00:40
MooseRyder
Member
+37|7109|Montréal, Canada

ghostgr wrote:

bobroonie.bda wrote:

FromTheAshes wrote:


No it's not, you need to read it. It's an option admins can put on. I just play on servers with this not against the rules.
exactly

you know whats funny. i have been spawn killed sure, that happens alot. but never spawn camped as you would say. when the enemy's in my uncapable and i have no where else to spawn, i kill a few guys and get away to start capping flags again. the problem is not the campers but the non skilled people walking around with there heads up there ass no knowing what to do in certin situations. all they do is type  cry / bitch. and if you want to leave the server great im sure theres a line of people waiting to get in. and if the server dies no problem there are more servers to go kill on. and yes it is a game and people are suposed to play for fun. guess what. Its fun for me and thats what counts. you guys can talk all the shit you want. none of my stats are padded. and im way better infantry / armor guy / squad leader then most people that play BF2. deal with it.

http://img.tehsig.com/usr_23194/tpl_0/image.jpg
Ok then what does this tell you?

3 LOCAL (PRIVATELY RENTED) RANKED SERVER RULES MODIFICATIONS

These are rules that are not enforced upon in EA’s public ranked servers but may be modified in privately rented ranked servers. These rules are decided by clan administrators for those servers and as long as they do not contradict any global rules enforced by EA are considered valid for those servers.

This would include but not limited to:
§ Artillery fire or bombing runs on main (uncapturable) bases may be prohibited.
§ Prolonged or sustained attacks on main (uncapturable) bases (i.e. spawncamping).
§ Using the Transport Helicopters to take flags (Blackhawk whoring or flag hopping).
§ Impersonating clan members.
§ Using C4 on jeeps, or other fast moving vehicles to take out other vehicles.
§ Clans may change or customise rules, provided they don’t violate the above ROE rules.


This says to me no spawncamping!
are u stupid or what READ WHAT IT SAYS

These are rules that are NOT ENFORCED upon in EA’s public ranked servers

but may be modified in privately RENTED ranked servers...which mean by ADMINS!

So if you cant read dont type, its not against ea rules to spawn camp BUT admins have the right to put it as a rule in their servers they are renting.
2006-03-14 20:58:06
Nanoaug
Member
+0|7078
Do people read anything anymore or do they just scim things over, I blame it on the pace of everyday life, everyone rushes and tries to get things done as fast as possible and dont really bother to check for errors
2006-03-14 22:04:32
Sarrk
O-O-O A-O A
+788|7109|Brisbane, Australia

EA ROE wrote:

§ Using C4 on jeeps, or other fast moving vehicles to take out other vehicles.
....
....

Is this a server option, i hope to god it is

I like my Vod Bombs And Hummer Suprises
2006-03-14 22:07:05
THA
im a fucking .....well not now
+609|7224|AUS, Canberra

Sarrk wrote:

Hummer Suprises
isnt that somthing your missus gives you?
2006-03-14 22:59:22
YoBabysDaddy
Member
+31|7277|St. Louis, MO
If both teams have uncappable points,sure whatever.However ,if your team does not and the other does.  Not being able to attack thier uncappable point is kinda not fair.

I understand that the team with the uncappable base has thier tickets bleed, but giving the enemy team time to regroup is just stupid.Many just don't want to have bother with defending thier main.Thats what the tow missle,mounted machine guns and stinger sites are for.

The new ROE rules just make it so those who pay them for the use of thier servers can control the game environment to fit thier style of play.Kinda like a points package if you rent a ranked server.I,m glad the rules are just an option and the worst that can happen is that you just get kicked.

 

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