THA
im a fucking .....well not now
+609|7227|AUS, Canberra

-fe.lep- wrote:

But im not using it as an "I own" screenshot, Just an example to a n00b who thinks 11 kills a map is something to tell folks about and 30 is cheating. lol
you idiot, do you know how bad you just owned yourself?

your the one who first said snipers get shit kills per map, and your also the one who has an 11 kill per round stat, hence you think 11 is good.

plus iv gotton 30 kills in a round, and what i said was cheating was people that have that as an average, like what you said you could have if you wanted.
maybe you should go learn to read and then come back and try to own people here, as at the moment your making yourself look stupid.
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|7077|Mhz

-fe.lep- wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

I'm gonna take a stab in the dark here and guess that round, was pre 1.2, you chopper whored on a 300 ticket round, and that -10 TW u got was tking for the heli. just a theory but one i consider likely
LOL but a damn good guess, Small changes to it tho, yes pre 1.2, -10 was self defence, The banzai dude (relatives of mine btw) who ya can see on our team was sent over to take the chopper to stop us owning them. Self defense damit!! :p We didnt have the chopper for first 5/10 mins of round, hence the deaths. So in short, a damn nice game

But im not using it as an "I own" screenshot, Just an example to a n00b who thinks 11 kills a map is something to tell folks about and 30 is cheating. lol
I should be a detective or summin lol, either way i cant let the "snipers suck" comments stand 15 - 25 is an "average" sniping game for myself. less than that I get annoyed. Ive layed off on sniping just lately, mainly coz i have next to no time on another kit lol. before you all look confused coz ur checked my stats this is my spare account coz i got tired of ppl trying to shoot down arguments using ppls stat pages . i'll pm you it if anyones THAT interested (my sniper rifle stats r higher than Nyte's btw lol [go by rifle coz sniper as a class can be easily point whored just by gunning a chopper as a sniper] ) In the end stats r pretty irrelevant. Other than the WCR none of the awards and badges are hard to get, global score is usually just how long u've played for and SPM is only the tactics on how you play, rambo = high SPM, tactical = low SPM you need both to win a game, 32 blood craved psychopaths r going to get cut down quick, 32 skeaky bastards r going to take all day to get anywhere.
-fe.lep-
Member
+8|7160
mmm yet your death a round is double mine, go figure.
and If I play commander , in a tank as a sniper, mine would be 100 times yours in 4 days, rofl. You see why your account @ 4000 points is useless as a comparison?

its not hidden if you use you brain, i started this account becuase i needed 1to1 infront of my name.
and global score = nothing more than time played so stop trying to make it more than it is.
Ahem, bullshit , someone took the nick and you had to make a new account. Why didnt you just use the add tag section If all you needed was the prefix?


who told you.
It didnt take much working out.

woh there cowboy dont thank me to soon, as if you read it again maybe 5 or 6 times you might realise i never called you a cheat
Mabey I missed something?

lol yeh ok, go find me a player with stats of 30 kills per round that isnt a padder.
stop posting crap.
I ave 30 kills a map on city maps @ least. If I started a new account tomorrow, Thats what the average would be. So k and thanks
Breez
AKA: badhq
+937|7089|Derby, England

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

I have never played against a good sniper. Everyone picks that class because they want to be cool..a "leet sniper" so to speak. Yet round after round I get annoyed by constant sniper fire on me...all misses. So I have to stop what I'm doing, look at them, and put 2 shots into their head with my PKM and move on. So what are your experiences with opposing snipers?
Well real sniper should help his team one way or other, ingame sniper should do following try and sniper pilots and Sneef out comander take him out, I spend most of my game relocating when I'm a sniper I might not get High kills, but i will do the following Take out jet, Chopper pilots and if i see guy layn down or standing Imguessing his a comander and I will take him out no jets in sky no Arty on your Team m8 so you see if you a sniper you are vitol to your time if you play it right :-) Peace Boris
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|7077|Mhz

the_heart_attack wrote:

-fe.lep- wrote:

But im not using it as an "I own" screenshot, Just an example to a n00b who thinks 11 kills a map is something to tell folks about and 30 is cheating. lol
you idiot, do you know how bad you just owned yourself?

your the one who first said snipers get shit kills per map, and your also the one who has an 11 kill per round stat, hence you think 11 is good.

plus iv gotton 30 kills in a round, and what i said was cheating was people that have that as an average, like what you said you could have if you wanted.
maybe you should go learn to read and then come back and try to own people here, as at the moment your making yourself look stupid.
I think what he was getting at, as is the case with my other account is that when you start you suck, suck reallllly bad, which in the long run drags your stats down. My main acc would probably have atleast a 50% stats increase if id been as good as i am now when i started.
THA
im a fucking .....well not now
+609|7227|AUS, Canberra

-fe.lep- wrote:

mmm yet your death a round is double mine, go figure.
and If I play commander , in a tank as a sniper, mine would be 100 times yours in 4 days, rofl. You see why your account @ 4000 points is useless as a comparison?

its not hidden if you use you brain, i started this account becuase i needed 1to1 infront of my name.
and global score = nothing more than time played so stop trying to make it more than it is.
Ahem, bullshit , someone took the nick and you had to make a new account. Why didnt you just use the add tag section If all you needed was the prefix?


who told you.
It didnt take much working out.

woh there cowboy dont thank me to soon, as if you read it again maybe 5 or 6 times you might realise i never called you a cheat
Mabey I missed something?

lol yeh ok, go find me a player with stats of 30 kills per round that isnt a padder.
stop posting crap.
I ave 30 kills a map on city maps @ least. If I started a new account tomorrow, Thats what the average would be. So k and thanks
omg thats the longest post iv ever seen that actually didnt make a single point.

firstly 1to1the heart attack sounds quite gay

and yes you missed somthing, pretty much everything i said, and especially the bit i told you to read more carefully.

and you think you could get a kill per round stat of 30? once again stop posting crap. and ill say it again
this time ill slow it down for you.

go find me a player with a kill per round STAT notice i said stat not "screenshot of one round" of 30 that isnt a padder.
meaning no one out there has that kind of STAT AVERAGE legitimatly.

no what that means is when you look at you STATS page next to average kills per round it says 30, not in a round once, an average.

now please dont post here again unless your going to stop owning yourself, i almost feel bad for you.
-fe.lep-
Member
+8|7160
I should be a detective or summin lol, either way i cant let the "snipers suck" comments stand 15 - 25 is an "average" sniping game for myself.
Which is a hell of a lot above the rest of the n00bs spamming here, if your honest

In the end stats r pretty irrelevant.
YUP and playing for stats all the damn is damn boring

Other than the WCR none of the awards and badges are hard to get, global score is usually just how long u've played for and SPM is only the tactics on how you play, rambo = high SPM, tactical = low SPM you need both to win a game.
They may be "easy" when ya have been playing a while but for most of the one class n00bs they are simply out of their reach. How many posts have you seen with "how am I ment to get this, Ribbons are too hard, Its just silly etc etc?"

BUT on average a rambo team, Will be a lot more effective than an average sniper team by a long way. Team of me's vs a team of the_heart_attacks , Who's going to win? I think the term is lockout :p
Lestat<CoN>
Didnt Do it
+9|7161
hey Heart havent seen you or sniper for a bit in internode but -fe.lep- you havent seen me and my pals play sniper we can cap out Sharqi Pen fairly easily as for it being a useless class mate only because it requires skill and intelligence i would invite you to join us one round but the fact your in irelend makes it hard but i can tell you to look up Books and Sinn Fien  and ask them about snipers.

Heres SinnFiens acount: http://bf2s.com/player/46218418/


Oh Yeah b4 you bitch about my stats and say i shouldnt comment yeah my stats are fairly average to below average but i dont care i play for a laugh so dont waste your time comparing mine ok

Last edited by Lestat<CoN> (2006-03-24 06:33:35)

THA
im a fucking .....well not now
+609|7227|AUS, Canberra

Lestat<CoN> wrote:

hey Heart havent seen you or sniper for a bit in internode but -fe.lep- you havent seen me and my pals play sniper we can cap out Sharqi Pen fairly easily as for it being a useless class mate only because it requires skill and intelligence i would invite you to join us one round but the fact your in irelend makes it hard but i can tell you to look up Books and Sinn Fien  and ask them about snipers.

Heres SinnFiens acount: http://bf2s.com/player/46218418/
he's been away and iv just been to damn busy to play much as of late.

-fe.lep- wrote:

Team of me's vs a team of the_heart_attacks , Who's going to win? I think the term is lockout :p
once again great point, here is an idea, swing the topic to hatever you want to make a point. well he is one for ya.

what you saying is a team of you beat s team of snipers correct.

well going off all the things you have posted that make a good player

how about a team of you v's a team of {TA}FireStorm who's fav kit is.........thats right boys and girls...sniper!!!

I think the term is lockout :p
Lestat<CoN>
Didnt Do it
+9|7161
Bugger i hope to see you back around sometime soon dude you make one of my friends curse alot and then he spends the rest of the map hunting you lol
*ToRRo*cT|
Spanish Sniper-Wh0re
+199|7200|Malaga, España

-fe.lep- wrote:

*ToRRo*cT| wrote:

my accuracy is 39.17%
and in between taking all that time to swear and make invalid or irrelevant points you forgot to add a link to your stats.......

As for playing other games, Which im guessing in your case is being used as an excuse.. I play a few too...

http://www.clanbase.com/claninfo.php?ci … p;awards=1

http://www.clanbase.com/claninfo.php?ci … p;awards=1

Check the members list
as a fucking excuse right , you aint know nothing about me you twat. 32 years old and thinking a Stat page make him look Elite.....whahahaha pethatic.
THA
im a fucking .....well not now
+609|7227|AUS, Canberra

Lestat<CoN> wrote:

Bugger i hope to see you back around sometime soon dude you make one of my friends curse alot and then he spends the rest of the map hunting you lol
lol, yeh next week we will be back into it.
[zulu]steviep831
Member
+6|7090|Florida
I'm an average sniper. Hadn't really spent too much time with the kit, but I have definitely met great or even excellent snipers online. One guy TIMTIMJIMJIM (yeah that's his name, go figure, is it Tim or Jim?) owned me several times in Gulf of Oman. I could never figure out where he was sniping me from. Moral of the story, if you are a good sniper then people should never be able to find you to pwn you. A great sniper never shoots from the crane! First place I look for the newbs.... Anyways, TIMx2 JIMx2 if you're on this board I want to talk to you!

Also as sniper I feel it's my personal duty to cover my squad when they cap a flag, spot enemy troops that are trying to flank. And remove their burden of taking on multiple enemy soldiers by taking out as many as I can before they can cause a problem. My goal is not medals or badges when I am sniper. I may not have many TW pts in a round, but the team work that I do is not quantified by this game. There are many snipers that are lone wolves, but I prefer to work in a squad as that way I have a built in way of getting supplies and health if needed.
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|7077|Mhz

-fe.lep- wrote:

BUT on average a rambo team, Will be a lot more effective than an average sniper team by a long way. Team of me's vs a team of the_heart_attacks , Who's going to win? I think the term is lockout :p
I said tactical play not just snipers , its all a part of winning the round, how many teams you seen get put toally off baclance coz 3 random guys went trecking off round the entire perimeter of a map to cap the back base, then seen half the defending team split in 2 to counter it, only to promptly get crushed coz the main fight is now 13 v 8 with the other 8 running like a bunch of headless chickens to the opposite end of the map. comment i made related only to SPM nothing attached to anyone class simply style of play.
senor_fulff
Member
+25|7217|Yorkshire, UK.

allfive6 wrote:

Sniper are a useless class. 90% of the tiime they die more than they kill they never help the team except the odd time when they defend a flag.
You sir are an idiot.
If you think snipers are useless you haven't played against any good ones. I have had entire squads sent after me and I am no sniper god.

allfive6 wrote:

Sniper's are the number one eazy target in battlefield and with maybe 20 to 25 guys in all of BF2 that are even good enough to play that class.
A good sniper can kill the majority of a squad before they get anywhere near him (or her if you are a sniper goddess). I always end up with at least a 2:1 kill death ratio as a sniper, even on maps like wake island which is a choppernoob/airwhore paradise.

Personally i find AT and spec ops are fodder.
[zulu]steviep831
Member
+6|7090|Florida

senor_fulff wrote:

I have had entire squads sent after me and I am no sniper god.
I'm no sniper god either and I've had 6 enemy soldiers come after me at one time. Though if this happens means I've been in one spot way too long. Luckily I had claymores in place that helped better the odds, and again luckily I had UAV on my side to know that they were even coming. In this instance I survived the rest with by using my trusty pistol that pwns most at close range.
Cougar
Banned
+1,962|7221|Dallas
I'll take anybody in these forums on as a sniper.  You can even play whatever kit you like.  I'm that confident in my sniper abilities.


And yes, it is an open invitation to anyone.
THA
im a fucking .....well not now
+609|7227|AUS, Canberra

Cougar wrote:

I'll take anybody in these forums on as a sniper.  You can even play whatever kit you like.  I'm that confident in my sniper abilities.


And yes, it is an open invitation to anyone.
wow your a confident bugger arent you, your sniper rifle kills are same as mine but in double the time and half the k/d ratio.
http://bf2s.com/compare.php?pid1=431017 … to1spotter
what makes you so sure your so good?
polarbearz
Raiders of the Lost Bear
+-1,474|7246|Singapore

Hoho. Owned.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,075|7229|PNW

Snipers are best used for covering taken flags, covering flags being taken, or supressing enemy flags. All from a distance. Otherwise, if you use the claymore offensively, rather than just surround your camping spot with them, you'll be getting massive kills.
Buzerk1
Member
+44|7293
To -fe.lep- : Anyone with a K/D ratio over 1 for "Weapon" have my respect....

I also agree with you it can be easy to get over 30 kills per round on some maps.

Sniper is a good kit depending on the situation.... I play it a lot lately and I don't have high score on it... I finish on the top 5-6 player of each round. But again, I'm not the one who will stick to only one kit... I will use what the situation recommands.

There is no bad kit... there is just bad time to use some kit.

The reason Snipers have bad reputation is, when there is no more flag left you always end-up seeing a sniper hidding somewhere not having a clue his team is loosing and just looking through his scope. Outside that, it's a good kit in some situation. I have a blast taking out gunners on tanks and jeeps.

Last edited by Buzerk1 (2006-03-24 07:35:37)

mporlier
Member
+42|7097|Montreal, Canada

allfive6 wrote:

Sniper are a useless class. 90% of the tiime they die more than they kill they never help the team except the odd time when they defend a flag. usely the team with the most snipers will not win. And if you notice the guys that are sniper are once again 90% noobies with low ranks. I do thank EA for putting the useless class in though without it I would never got my Expert knife  Expert C4 bagdes and soon expert pistal . Sniper's are the number one eazy target in battlefield and with maybe 20 to 25 guys in all of BF2 that are even good enough to play that class. I say long live the sniper has long has there on the other team it is almost like stat padding how eazy it is to kill them.

Plus how many time have you guys killed a sniper and then the dumb SOB goes right back the the same spot you just killed him.  Did I tell you how much I love my knife badge. Sniper are like crack just don't do it
I think you are wrong. Since I decided to exclusivly play as a sniper about a month ago I regularly rank in the top 5 of my team when the round ends. This includes kill and assist. My stats show a constantly rising KD ratio. I started the game not knowing the tricks of the trade and my stats sucked. now I average 3:1 KD and over 15 kills/round. Killing and not dying greatly helps swing tickets our side. You have 30 kills and 25 death you have only created a 5 ticket delta. On my part I kill 15 and die 5 I created a 10 ticket delta. That brings more WINS.

In your case your stats are good so this does not apply but generaly I think its right.

Last edited by mporlier (2006-03-24 07:49:50)

(HUN)Rudebwoy
Member
+45|7212
Well, Ive been sniping a lot lately, and of course I couldnt master the kit yet.
I dont always intend to instantly kill the target, but to inflict a serious wound, so my teammates only has to kick him in the nuts
My problem with the kit is that I cant cap flags with it, coz most of the time I get killed, i dont stand a chance in CQC.I also cant set up claymores while capping flag, coz somehow my claymores can kill me and my teammates even after patch 1.21.(maybe i should improve my pistol skills...).
And to anyone who think sniper is a useless kit:
-we can make the plane and attack heli pilots' life easier by taking out the people sitting in AAs
-we can hold back the enemy in their base thus making them more vulnerable to an attack and making it harder for them to carry out an attack
-injuring infantry, making it easy to take them out
-spotting enemys from a distance (including planes, coz I experienced that noone spots the airplanes)
-take out enemy snipers
-going behind enemy lines to capture flags,thanks for the ghillie suit(sorry i dont know how to spell that)
-snipers usually die fewer times than anyone else, this saves tickets
I dont say that snipers are the most powerful in bf2, but they do have their place and role in the battle
Cougar
Banned
+1,962|7221|Dallas

the_heart_attack wrote:

Cougar wrote:

I'll take anybody in these forums on as a sniper.  You can even play whatever kit you like.  I'm that confident in my sniper abilities.


And yes, it is an open invitation to anyone.
wow your a confident bugger arent you, your sniper rifle kills are same as mine but in double the time and half the k/d ratio.
http://bf2s.com/compare.php?pid1=431017 … to1spotter
what makes you so sure your so good?
That actually goes to show you who the better sniper is. 

Being a sniper is a strange entity in itself as it is the only kit that is best used when not trying to get points.  By that I mean, GOOD snipers don't jump into tanks, choppers and planes.  GOOD snipers spend half the game stalking someone or getting into a prime firing spot which is of strategic importance.  Most people don't understand this.  It is one thing to snipe an airfield, but it is another thing to snipe your own base and keep the enemy from taking it.

My kills are lower and time is higher because I have patience.  I don't switch to sniper between classes, I choose a round to do nothing but sniper and I stick with the kit no matter what.  That sometimes means having extremly slow rounds, and sometimes, extremly fast rounds.  Mostly slow RELAXING rounds.  But rest assured, if I see you first (and I probably will) you will take a bullet in the teeth.

I am confident.  I know I am confident, because with most other aspects of the game, I not only just "got a feel" for the weapon, kit or vehicle, I try to learn the dynamics and the inner workings of each and utilize each kit, weapon and vehicle's special and, not as well known, ability's.  In the case of sniping, I have it down to a fine art. 

I have actually spent the time to figure out how much:

Bullet drop there is at certain distances
How long the bullet travel time is to certain distances
How fast my reload time is as opposed to thier reload time
Which elevation marks to use at certain distances
And last but not least, out of sight sniping.

Out of sight sniping is a secret of mine, so we will not discuss that here.

But yeah, anytime you feel froggy, just jump.
The Buzz
Hired to kill... you... and you...and you
+8|7188|Québec, Canada

Nyte wrote:

You probably haven't seen me.

I've already hunted and owned all North American snipers (That includes all the posters on BF2S).

I will admit only 1 sniper is better though: HankC (The only sniper I have met so far that has killed me more times than I killed him).
I dont about all North American snipers, I never met you yet and I still have not met a sniper who has killed me more often than I killed him.  (not counting my days as a newbie) Was playing like a newbie till I upgraded from 512k to 2 gigs RAM. Now no sniper ever gets away with more kills. Never.
So make my day Nyte, give me a challenge some day on a map if we meet.

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