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I hate the random battlefield 2 player. I'm all for teamwork, and these days about half of my points come from team points, but I'm damned if I can get the average player to work with me. Most of the time I'll get to an important point (like the tv station on sharqi), make a squad, shout "we need some help over here" several times, type "squad X needs backup at tv station! spawn on me!", and then sit there and wait for minutes on end while nothing happens. Once in a while I'll get some exceptional players on my team and they'll spawn, and we'll go and kick some butt and maybe change the course of the battle, but most of the time its like asking a brick for help.

Yeah, join a clan or something man. Cuz pug's suck! It's amazing how if a team has just one squad working together they often win.

there's absolutely no team work in pubs.

when my "clan" joins a pub (with 8-10 people) on the same team, we absolutely destroy the other team.

Quote Skruples:
I hate the random battlefield 2 player. I'm all for teamwork, and these days about half of my points come from team points, but I'm damned if I can get the average player to work with me.
End quote.

This question is not to flame you, it is really curiosity from my side.

If you are all for teamwork, how exactly do you consider flying in an attack-helicopter for over 400 hrs  "teamwork". 
Looks to me you only recently discovered  "teamwork" now that last patch nerved the indestructiblility of the (attack-)chopper...

Ok , i know you can work together with your gunner, but it   seems the past 6 months - until latest patch- you were up high in the sky in your indestructible chopper. Not really what i call teamwork !
Please explain how flying a chopper/jets , racking up a lot of Killpoints  -not TEAMPOINTS - is teamwork.
Did you drop ammo packs from your attack-chopper, or medic packs, or revive from 30 feets away ?

Last edited by MajorHoulahan_MASH (2006-03-28 01:37:47)

MajorHoulahan_MASH wrote:

Quote Skruples:
I hate the random battlefield 2 player. I'm all for teamwork, and these days about half of my points come from team points, but I'm damned if I can get the average player to work with me.
End quote.

This question is not to flame you, it is really curiosity from my side.

If you are all for teamwork, how exactly do you consider flying in an attack-helicopter for over 400 hrs  "teamwork". 
Looks to me you only recently discovered  "teamwork" now that last patch nerved the indestructiblility of the (attack-)chopper...

Ok , i know you can work together with your gunner, but it   seems the past 6 months - until latest patch- you were up high in the sky in your indestructible chopper. Not really what i call teamwork !
Please explain how flying a chopper/jets , racking up a lot of Killpoints  -not TEAMPOINTS - is teamwork.
Did you drop ammo packs from your attack-chopper, or medic packs, or revive from 30 feets away ?

Nevermind that the guy has 3x more small arms kills than you do.

Nevermind that the guy has 4x more teampoints than you do.

And dont give me that "Hes been playing longer" crap. you have 600 hrs, he has 900.

Next time look at all the stats, and recognize a better player, instead of looking at one stat and calling "heli-whore" just because you get hit by choppers alot.

I swear, some people.....

It does improve the game when your in a functional squad, and unless your a sniper you get loads more points than trying to be Rambo killing everyone, If you get a good squad leader who is willing to hold back and not get killed your squad simpy moves around flattening the enemy until you meet another squad.

Skruples wrote:

I hate the random battlefield 2 player.......
I'm all for teamwork, and these days about half of my points come from team points, but I'm damned if I can get the average player to work with me. ..... but most of the time its like asking a brick for help.

Really, you should LOVE the average BF2 player !

Because of the lack of teamwork in general, its easy (for you, and then some others) to rack up kills in a tank or a chopper!
Now that the majority act like sheep , you can be the wolf !

Teamwork:
- people would spot enemy choppers or armor in time to warn teammates
- adapt their kits to take it out (AT, PKM) or all jump in AA /TOW to engage the biggest threat(chopper/tank)
- friendly jet pilots would go for enemy choppers, instead of bombing infantry for cheap kills

@ Blacksheepcannibal :
Because of the lack of teamwork, its easy to get great K-D  ratios or whatever statistics; like a shark in a among small fish. Sharks are mostly solitair hunters, they rather not have the other sharks eat all the fish...
Is a shark a "better" player ?
Maybe in terms of statistics, not necessarily in terms of teamwork.

"Real" teamwork is not rewarded in statistics in this game.
example 1.
Flying commander gets some selfish kill points before he is rightfully mutinied (or as exception to the rule ,resigns), while denying teammates those kills.
Not so for the commander who hides in shelter right from the start and does his job, and MAY get 2x ( no guarantees)
example 2.
If your friendly tank hunts the enemy tank, thats teamwork because thats what the tank is made for;
just 1 killpoint for that, if at all
If your friendly tanker AVOIDs the enemy tank/chopper  to get 10 cheap infantry kills (happens a lot on Karkand and Sharqi), thats no teamwork.

Guess what: last one here is the "better"player in terms of statistics, getting K-D ratios of 4 up to 14.
Is he really a "better" player ?
Yes in terms of (selfish) K-D ratio.
NO in terms of teamwork: protecting his infantry teammates from the onslaught of the enemy tank/chopper.

Last edited by MajorHoulahan_MASH (2006-04-01 08:56:38)

MajorHoulahan_MASH wrote:

Quote Skruples:
I hate the random battlefield 2 player. I'm all for teamwork, and these days about half of my points come from team points, but I'm damned if I can get the average player to work with me.
End quote.

This question is not to flame you, it is really curiosity from my side.

If you are all for teamwork, how exactly do you consider flying in an attack-helicopter for over 400 hrs  "teamwork". 
Looks to me you only recently discovered  "teamwork" now that last patch nerved the indestructiblility of the (attack-)chopper...

Ok , i know you can work together with your gunner, but it   seems the past 6 months - until latest patch- you were up high in the sky in your indestructible chopper. Not really what i call teamwork !
Please explain how flying a chopper/jets , racking up a lot of Killpoints  -not TEAMPOINTS - is teamwork.
Did you drop ammo packs from your attack-chopper, or medic packs, or revive from 30 feets away ?

And yet, without a good jet or helo pilot, a team often loses. Aparently they are nothing but selfish kill whores.