{USI}_Zombie
Member
+11|7232
Can anyone explain the moth-like attraction for people to the hotel on Karkand?  Seems to me that is the most unimportant flag on the entire map.  Last night the 4 members of my squad, as USMC, got across the river and started taking the MEC bases, as soon as the cement factory turned, we were asking people to spawn over there and help to take all the MEC bases.  Well, of course, only like 2 of the 20 other players spawned over there to help, while about 20 of the MEC side spawned at their remaining bases and quickly rolled us out of there.  We looked at the map and everyone from our side was clustered at the hotel.  I have never seen so many people so dedicated to not winning the map.
  Without a doubt it is possible for the US to win every time, because the MEC have no UC's, but that mystical flame at the hotel usually doesn't allow the US to win.  I am so ready to join the strike from karkand movement.   The padders should realize, that if the MEC has it together, they will try to retake the east side of the river and the battles are much more fun than the meat grinder at hotel, and more intense too.
  Ok, just needed to vent, I feel better now
dubbs
Member
+105|7091|Lexington, KY
I feel the same way as you do.  Most people attack there because of the points.  Another thing to do is to take the suburb by going to the west.  If you have two squads, one attach the factory, the other one attack Suburb, the MEC begin to hurt a lot.  On a good note though, if everyone did not fight at the Hotel, it would be harder to take the other flags.
imdead
Death StatPadder
+228|7228|Human Meat Shield
The Hotel is where the points are at, duh! . And for the MEC it's the most important because that is where they are coming from, and if you eliminate all the side work the US is done for in a matter of minutes. Some people go for points and others decide they are bored and are more tactful and decide to plant mines at the runways (there are only two!) and have snipers and some more bullarky on the outer edges, by this time everyone should know where they are going or what flag they are taking, 9-10 it's either the Suburbs or Factory.
*ToRRo*cT|
Spanish Sniper-Wh0re
+199|7202|Malaga, España
karkland is a pointfarming map
imdead
Death StatPadder
+228|7228|Human Meat Shield
isn't everymap?? You have jet-point farmer maps also? What's the difference besides the airpower? I see no difference.
*ToRRo*cT|
Spanish Sniper-Wh0re
+199|7202|Malaga, España
we are talking about karkland, Ground forces, and the reason why karkland is the best point farming map is , is of its high chance that u end up with 60 - 90 (32 slot ) mostly the top 6 - 8 players have 60 + points , in a map with planes its the Pilots who ends up with the highest score. but try to get a plane these days without gettin TKed or auto-kicked
MajorHoulahan_MASH
Member
+31|7181
It seems people are attracted to smelly, stinking Hotels, with an ugly view from the windows of the rooms; burning car wrecks.
Cheap prices for rooms and food presumably.
You would think a Train Accident (!) would gather a crowd more easily !
d11fdj
Member
+3|7209|Athens
Hmmm, the thing about Strike of Kirkland is that a tactically-aware USMC team will always win.  A tactically-aware MEC team will win the Strike in Karklands, but would lose against a good USMC team.

The point of my post is to complain about people that spell Strike at Karkand incorrectly.

NOT STRIKE AT KARKLAND
NOT STRIKE IN KIRKLAND
NEITHER STRIKE OUTSIDE KIRKLANDS/KIRKLANDVILLE/KARKANDS/KARKSLAND

phew (mopping brow after rant)....
imdead
Death StatPadder
+228|7228|Human Meat Shield

MajorHoulahan_MASH wrote:

It seems people are attracted to smelly, stinking Hotels, with an ugly view from the windows of the rooms; burning car wrecks.
Cheap prices for rooms and food presumably.
You would think a Train Accident (!) would gather a crowd more easily !
Nah,it's probably the food inside that's why they are all outside trying to find the pool located at the Suburbs but they want directions from the US because they have the hottest babes..
MelbourneVictory
Member
+2|7104|Melbourne, Australia
Completely agree with you Zombie. I'd capped the Factory flag the other night with a teammate, and after about 5mins noone was spawning there, instead at the bloody base.

Pack of retards, I have no idea what's going on through their heads. I reckon half of the people playing don't even know what the map is for!

I had to pretty well kick and scream (type a lot of abuse in BIG BOLD LETTERING) to get people to notice. Idiots.
bennisboy
Member
+829|7105|Poundland
isnt the whole point of playing the map to get points? so no-one really cares if they win or lose except the commanders, they want points to get better stats like evry1 else, not to win a round that lasts two minutes and they get about 6 points for
Vampira_NB
Trying is the first step to failing
+76|7133|Canada Eh?
I play to win
{USI}_Zombie
Member
+11|7232

bennisboy wrote:

isnt the whole point of playing the map to get points? so no-one really cares if they win or lose except the commanders, they want points to get better stats like evry1 else, not to win a round that lasts two minutes and they get about 6 points for
No, the whole point of playing is to win the map, points are incidental, and not unimportant, but shouldn't be the focus.  Some of the most enjoyable maps are where the US storms the river, crushes the defenders, then rolls up the MEC from the rear, winning the map with a loss of only 60 or so tickets to the US.  And yes, points will be gained if there is a determined counter-attack.  I have been on the MEC side when a determined US side followed the above tactic, and it was very intense to regain our side of the river, and immensely satisfying to kick them from the east side of the river, then to fend off a determined attempt to retake our main.  Those sessions will generate plenty of points, I have personally gotten over 100 points on rounds that unfold like that.
  Kills give points, but so do flag neutraliztions/flag captures/and flag defends.  If the flags were not important, they would have then taken them out and made Karkand a team deathmatch instead of a conquest map.  I don't agree with you that no one cares whether they win or lose.  If the game you enjoy playing is to be in the meat grinder of the hotel, then be my guest.  As for me, the objective is to win the map, whether I command or not.
  I don't intend to flame you here, just to respectfully disagree.

  As for the rest of you that think like I do, if you see any {USI} on the server, then we will be doing what is required to win the map, and if you are on our side, are welcome to join, and if not, be prepared for our arrival!
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7221

*ToRRo*cT| wrote:

karkland is a pointfarming map
blacksheepcannibal
Member
+24|7211

*ToRRo*cT| wrote:

karkland is a pointfarming map
amen. many people dont care about flag capping, etc. on karkand, they just want their kills. who care who wins or looses if you have 120 pts? pff....

I play to win. Hence why I prefer teamwork and proper play and etiquette to just running around killing things. if the game was about killing things then they would have named it "deathmatch" no "conquest".

I dont play karkand. If I am playing on a server and it swaps to karkand, i leave the server. Ive been doing this for about a month now. Only way ill play karkand is if im following a shit hot squad into it.

24/7 Karkand, 24/7 Karkand/Sharqi/Oman servers are the worst places to play. If you play on a server like that, never ever come to this forum, you are asking for idiots to play with you.
arnica
Member
+18|7139|Sydney
pffft .. every other amp is farming too ...
MelbourneVictory
Member
+2|7104|Melbourne, Australia

bennisboy wrote:

isnt the whole point of playing the map to get points? so no-one really cares if they win or lose except the commanders, they want points to get better stats like evry1 else, not to win a round that lasts two minutes and they get about 6 points for
The point of BF2 is to WIN! And to use teamwork to do it! No matter which map you're on! Saying something like that little gem of yours above at least shows us whats running through your mind. How about just becoming a good player? Rather than an ordinary one with great stats.

Stats dont mean much, theyre fun I know, but theyre not going to get you a date with Jessica Alba.
bennisboy
Member
+829|7105|Poundland

MelbourneVictory wrote:

Stats dont mean much, theyre fun I know, but theyre not going to get you a date with Jessica Alba.
not much will. btw i am not obsessed with stats, if you look you'll see mine aint very good and that I dont play much, but hardly anyone talks about their win:loss ratio. You dont advance in the game due to your w:l ratio, you advance because of your points, so you an unlock weapons. That is why people go for points. frankly the points system makes this game, without it there would be little incentive to keep playing.

yes iy can be satisfying to storm thru a round quickly but then its all over. The most fun is had when there is a furious battle, which is usually at hotel; the subject of this thread

oh and well done zombie for not flaming sum1 when they disagree, jus putting your argument across properly, a lot of people could learn from you
{USI}_Zombie
Member
+11|7232

bennisboy wrote:

oh and well done zombie for not flaming sum1 when they disagree, jus putting your argument across properly, a lot of people could learn from you
Thanks, I have found reasonable discourse accomplishes more.  I do see there are mixed opinions on the issue, and I guess I will just have to be fortuneate to hook up with like minded people to play Karkand the way I want to play it, it has happened from time to time and makes the map fun for me.
Jakethe8lf
Member
+13|7100|Victoria, Australia
Hotel? Everyone just wants a comfy sleep.

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