Then you gotta stat pad occassionaly too, because you don't mind the same activity going around you while you play. It's not like you have to go through great amount of hussle and torture to make a SS... Playing the game as you want and using exploits in the game are two different things.E7IX3R wrote:
I'm not against it no, but I think someone who spends more time trying to find the stat padders and reporting them than playing the game is a bit sad.jord wrote:
Agreed.Just wondering ,are you against it e7i3er becuase everyone says you hack?E7IX3R wrote:
To be honest, I just think you should be concentrating on playing your own game, not constantly trying to find stat padders ect to report.
get a life.
I dont think you do but people say you got banned from punkbuster 9 times for editing some files.
I mean, if I come across stat padders, I won't go crying to EA because they're getting points the easy way.
I'll get on with my game, kill a few people and be satisfied that I'm alive and they're not. Simple as that.
Banned 9 times and I don't know why, never used hacks and have no need to
I've got to agree. I third party Ranked server provider tattle telling on other people....lolE7IX3R wrote:
To be honest, I just think you should be concentrating on playing your own game, not constantly trying to find stat padders ect to report.
get a life.
No you don't have to be a stat padder to believe this. You just don't have to care.
Last edited by Kmarion (2006-05-03 16:35:13)
Xbone Stormsurgezz
People who think dedicated pad reporting is silly aren't necessarily padders themselves. I have never seen anything more ridiculous in an online game.Cbass wrote:
Worried man? u sounds nervousE7IX3R wrote:
To be honest, I just think you should be concentrating on playing your own game, not constantly trying to find stat padders ect to report.
get a life.
wow 585 servers already reported
I think there should be order in this game
but seriously some of you players are like little old ladies, (busy bodies)
like a previous reply said... play your own game, instead of running around playing cop
I think there should be order in this game
but seriously some of you players are like little old ladies, (busy bodies)
like a previous reply said... play your own game, instead of running around playing cop
I agreeE7IX3R wrote:
To be honest, I just think you should be concentrating on playing your own game, not constantly trying to find stat padders ect to report.
get a life.
>>>BF3 Central<<<
PADDERS !!!!
Well, get used to it, if you cheat in the game to move up in the "rank", somebody that plays fair will dislike you, and report you.
Cheaters deserve to be cheated back.
Well, get used to it, if you cheat in the game to move up in the "rank", somebody that plays fair will dislike you, and report you.
Cheaters deserve to be cheated back.
Nikola Bathory wrote:
I agreeE7IX3R wrote:
To be honest, I just think you should be concentrating on playing your own game, not constantly trying to find stat padders ect to report.
get a life.
I don't agree.Nikola Bathory wrote:
I agreeE7IX3R wrote:
To be honest, I just think you should be concentrating on playing your own game, not constantly trying to find stat padders ect to report.
get a life.
Sure, play your own game, enjoy your game but if there are people cheating the system or screwing up the environment then why not spend a little time reporting them to people who care and can do something to sort it?
Just because someone spends a little time reporting these things doesn't mean they are doing so to the exclusion of all else.
Stat padders, and servers that aid them, cheapen the achievements of others
Hackers, Cheaters, Glitchers and Exploiters are flat out cheating and who enjoys unfairness in games?
Racist and abusive people should be unwelcome anywhere.
Persistant TKers are out to piss people off, why should they do so with impunity
Admins pay for the server but should treat guests with respect and not abuse their authority
BFROE is a good thing and while it's something else that is open to abuse anyone willing to go to the effort to set this up is probably going to be conscientious enough to watch out for misuse.
Supporter.
Excactly my opinion.duffry wrote:
I don't agree.Nikola Bathory wrote:
I agreeE7IX3R wrote:
To be honest, I just think you should be concentrating on playing your own game, not constantly trying to find stat padders ect to report.
get a life.
Sure, play your own game, enjoy your game but if there are people cheating the system or screwing up the environment then why not spend a little time reporting them to people who care and can do something to sort it?
Just because someone spends a little time reporting these things doesn't mean they are doing so to the exclusion of all else.
Stat padders, and servers that aid them, cheapen the achievements of others
Hackers, Cheaters, Glitchers and Exploiters are flat out cheating and who enjoys unfairness in games?
Racist and abusive people should be unwelcome anywhere.
Persistant TKers are out to piss people off, why should they do so with impunity
Admins pay for the server but should treat guests with respect and not abuse their authority
BFROE is a good thing and while it's something else that is open to abuse anyone willing to go to the effort to set this up is probably going to be conscientious enough to watch out for misuse.
Supporter.
I mean I don't think ANYONE here will join servers just to look for cheaters/exploiters/padders and leave after they see everything's alright. But if I see someone doing crap like that, I will screenshot and report after I've finished my game taking ~ 2min with bfroe.com. That's the whole deal chaps.
if EA gave a toss there'd not be so many knife/pistol servers running all the time & for so long,obviously they dont care so why should we?.
anyone notice how its always low ranked/global scorers that always bitch about people they THINK are hacking just cause they got owned by someone with better combat skills.no matter how many people the little bitches & complainers report they aint never gonna get in the top 10 so whats the point?,EA could'nt give a fuck about any of us & the proof of thats in a 12month old game that's still in beta format & full of bugs/new bugs with every patch.
if k/p only servers are so bad how come theres so many rumours about the next patch possibly having an infantry only option,is it just me or wouldnt an infantry only server still be able to rack up high scores much like k/p's do now?.
now HACKERS/GLITCHERS/force TK'ERS on the other hand are the real threat cause they fuckup everyones game in public servers & need to be stopped,the 1st 2 are a problem only for EA/DICE/PB to sort out,which just needs some new half competant coders to work on patch's unlike the brainless monkeys they employ now.
EA pull your finger out & fix this fking game code (bit late now for any hope when 2142's on its way lol)
out of the 3 above theres only 1 that i ever see on almost every server & they usualy gather round the hangers pissing pilots off & spoiling peoples game constantly cause they have no skills of thier own so resort to tk'ing.instead of people coming on here bitching & moaning how about servers get better admin control & not let so many wankers control thier servers.
better admin control = less of the 3 above & a more enjoyable game for the rest of us.
(no offence to anyone here in particular btw,just saying my bit)
anyone notice how its always low ranked/global scorers that always bitch about people they THINK are hacking just cause they got owned by someone with better combat skills.no matter how many people the little bitches & complainers report they aint never gonna get in the top 10 so whats the point?,EA could'nt give a fuck about any of us & the proof of thats in a 12month old game that's still in beta format & full of bugs/new bugs with every patch.
if k/p only servers are so bad how come theres so many rumours about the next patch possibly having an infantry only option,is it just me or wouldnt an infantry only server still be able to rack up high scores much like k/p's do now?.
now HACKERS/GLITCHERS/force TK'ERS on the other hand are the real threat cause they fuckup everyones game in public servers & need to be stopped,the 1st 2 are a problem only for EA/DICE/PB to sort out,which just needs some new half competant coders to work on patch's unlike the brainless monkeys they employ now.
EA pull your finger out & fix this fking game code (bit late now for any hope when 2142's on its way lol)
out of the 3 above theres only 1 that i ever see on almost every server & they usualy gather round the hangers pissing pilots off & spoiling peoples game constantly cause they have no skills of thier own so resort to tk'ing.instead of people coming on here bitching & moaning how about servers get better admin control & not let so many wankers control thier servers.
better admin control = less of the 3 above & a more enjoyable game for the rest of us.
(no offence to anyone here in particular btw,just saying my bit)
That logic is very flawed.-=5TON3D wrote:
if EA gave a toss there'd not be so many knife/pistol servers running all the time & for so long,obviously they dont care so why should we?.
I would be interested in seeing some stats around what actions have been taken to enforce the BFROE whether they are stat resets, server closures or even 'stern talking to's.
But to say that the existence of KP servers indicates inaction is wrong.
Are you assuming that people who care about cheating have a desire to get into the top 10?-=5TON3D wrote:
anyone notice how its always low ranked/global scorers that always bitch about people they THINK are hacking just cause they got owned by someone with better combat skills.no matter how many people the little bitches & complainers report they aint never gonna get in the top 10 so whats the point?
I care about cheats in the game cos I run a BF2 community, this takes a lot of my time and I don't play a great deal, my stats suck and I couldn't care less. I get a lot out of this game. If I was driven by scores and stats I would ditch the community activities and play all the time. I would still care about cheats.
You have a point in that people who are not very good tend to believe people with 'unbelievable' skill are cheating in some way but that's why there are people who investigate BFROE tickets rather than any automated rules.
Battlefield games go beyond so many others and so it's good that the development continues beyond initial release. True, the testing budgets seem to be too small and I'm pissed off with the bug count and resolution as well but I don't think that EA or Dice don't care, I just think they have missplaced priorities (features over fixes & not enough build/test support). Open testing is a good idea that I hope will become the standard model.-=5TON3D wrote:
,EA could'nt give a fuck about any of us & the proof of thats in a 12month old game that's still in beta format & full of bugs/new bugs with every patch.
It's just you.-=5TON3D wrote:
if k/p only servers are so bad how come theres so many rumours about the next patch possibly having an infantry only option,is it just me or wouldnt an infantry only server still be able to rack up high scores much like k/p's do now?.
Karkand has no air vehicles, does that make it a high point server?
Is a high point server the same as a limited weapon server?
No and no.
So stat padding, racist and abusive language and admin abuse is all ok with you?-=5TON3D wrote:
now HACKERS/GLITCHERS/force TK'ERS on the other hand are the real threat cause they fuckup everyones game in public servers & need to be stopped,
While there is always likely to be some issue with the game I agree that a year is a long time to wait for a resolution. A do think that BFROE is a good tool for reporting those who exploit things that do slip through the net.-=5TON3D wrote:
the 1st 2 are a problem only for EA/DICE/PB to sort out,which just needs some new half competant coders to work on patch's unlike the brainless monkeys they employ now.
EA pull your finger out & fix this fking game code (bit late now for any hope when 2142's on its way lol)
It took a long time for wall glitches to be found by the thousands of people playing the game, to expect a testing department to find every last detail would mean way too much time and expense (something we pay for)
not all servers can be admineed all the time and even when they are admining a server is a hard job that detracts from the admins game. Those who can't behave without supervision should not be able to persist without some deterrent. BFROE is a last resort. personally my admins ban persistent abusers but on servers without such thorough and dedicated admins having a tool for the public to use is good.-=5TON3D wrote:
out of the 3 above theres only 1 that i ever see on almost every server & they usualy gather round the hangers pissing pilots off & spoiling peoples game constantly cause they have no skills of thier own so resort to tk'ing. instead of people coming on here bitching & moaning how about servers get better admin control & not let so many wankers control thier servers.
better admin control = less of the 3 above & a more enjoyable game for the rest of us.
Hopefully you haven't taken too much offense here either, I disagree with most of your comments and pretty much all of your sentiment. people coming on here 'bitching and moaning' serves to highlight issues. What purpose does your bitching and moaning about it serve?-=5TON3D wrote:
(no offence to anyone here in particular btw,just saying my bit)
www.bf2stuff.com! This is the brand new site for the *BROS* Battlefield 2 community. You are more than welcome to register on our forums.
There is no commitment or age limit! We are simply a BF2 community in search of some friendly faces to come and enjoy some BF2 with us.
give us ur banner code and we will run it on our site
There is no commitment or age limit! We are simply a BF2 community in search of some friendly faces to come and enjoy some BF2 with us.
give us ur banner code and we will run it on our site
That kinda advertising bugs the crap outa me.envyous wrote:
www.bf2stuff.com! This is the brand new site for the *BROS* Battlefield 2 community. You are more than welcome to register on our forums.
There is no commitment or age limit! We are simply a BF2 community in search of some friendly faces to come and enjoy some BF2 with us.
give us ur banner code and we will run it on our site
duffry.
kept getting error messages tryin to quote each reply without it adding my previous post so i'll have to separate each response with numbers lol.
1.i agree it'd be interesting to see how they go about the reset system & such cause there must be people with point errors on their account's,higher round scores being registered to accounts that never really happened maybe. & if they give whoever a chance to defend themselves before being reset.
i know it's impossible to stop a server starting up as a k/p only or inf only,but it's the amount of months they allow them to run for.
2.my second point came out the wrong way about the complainers,that was aimed at the forum & ingame people that automatically jump to the conclusion that someones cheating or hacking just because for example they got killed & did'nt like it,or they just try to nitpick & dig for dirt on they top whatever amount you want to include just to try & get players reset or a bad rep in the community for whatever reason.i hope when people are reported to the BFROE that it is investigated properly & people get to defend themselves via their account email address.
3.priorities definitely seem misplaced on the bug fixing testing & features.mainly the testing that needs better support which is shown in need by patches stating bug's being fixed when they cleary hav'nt,when we can go play the patch & find the bug still there after 1 round of playing "karkand building glitch for example".
4.i think i'm right there though because with no armor on karkand like the k/p servers play,it'd give the medic's a lot more points as theres more chance of players just being injured & not outright killed unrevivable & also giving them more chance to get to bodies to revive which would mean less tickets being used making rounds last a lot longer giving higher end round scores.
5.i just forgot to include padding to the list & never edited it as i thaught if someones against glitching & hacking that padding would've been asumed into the same catagory.racism i've never come across as yet in the game & i've clocked 1100 odd hrs gametime so never seen it as a problem myself to be honest,but no i dont condone racism i just hav'nt seen any myself,maybe i've just been to busy enjoying the game to even notice.abusive language i can live with,personaly i dont care much about it & i'd see the funny side of it no doupt if aimed at me,but saying that you've still got a point about abuse that i agree with for those who dont want to tolerate it or take things to heart easily.
6.yeah we have & still are paying for it yet they are very slow at fixing things but they had the time to make 2 booster packs plus start getting stuck into making 2142 when they should've put that time & effort into fixing what we've already paid for,hence shows their leaned more towards wanting more money than releasing a stable quality product.
7.still,the majority of servers are either under admined or poorly admined when their on,i've admined myself,only for a month or so though as the clan fell apart as the server/clan owner was way to young & imature.i know what its like to try & keep the peace/minimise to use bf2cc & play at the same time.if i had my own server i'd try having admin's from different countrys so you'd have more chance of having the server admins available as their on a different time zone maybe.at least a lot of servers need to rethink the members they give admin right to,that'd sort a few problems people have with admins kicking/banning & what not for unfair reasons.
8.my 'bitching & moaning' was more worded in a way that'd fit in with the way others tend to express themselves on here more than anything,other than the swearing lol thats just how i talk most the time,(other than this post lol thaught i'd keep it extra clean case any's took as me being an ass to your replies:))
no offense taken at all from anything you said lol my posts are there to be criticised & responded to & i'm glad you did.
off to let my fingers cool down after this long story lol..
laterz.
kept getting error messages tryin to quote each reply without it adding my previous post so i'll have to separate each response with numbers lol.
1.i agree it'd be interesting to see how they go about the reset system & such cause there must be people with point errors on their account's,higher round scores being registered to accounts that never really happened maybe. & if they give whoever a chance to defend themselves before being reset.
i know it's impossible to stop a server starting up as a k/p only or inf only,but it's the amount of months they allow them to run for.
2.my second point came out the wrong way about the complainers,that was aimed at the forum & ingame people that automatically jump to the conclusion that someones cheating or hacking just because for example they got killed & did'nt like it,or they just try to nitpick & dig for dirt on they top whatever amount you want to include just to try & get players reset or a bad rep in the community for whatever reason.i hope when people are reported to the BFROE that it is investigated properly & people get to defend themselves via their account email address.
3.priorities definitely seem misplaced on the bug fixing testing & features.mainly the testing that needs better support which is shown in need by patches stating bug's being fixed when they cleary hav'nt,when we can go play the patch & find the bug still there after 1 round of playing "karkand building glitch for example".
4.i think i'm right there though because with no armor on karkand like the k/p servers play,it'd give the medic's a lot more points as theres more chance of players just being injured & not outright killed unrevivable & also giving them more chance to get to bodies to revive which would mean less tickets being used making rounds last a lot longer giving higher end round scores.
5.i just forgot to include padding to the list & never edited it as i thaught if someones against glitching & hacking that padding would've been asumed into the same catagory.racism i've never come across as yet in the game & i've clocked 1100 odd hrs gametime so never seen it as a problem myself to be honest,but no i dont condone racism i just hav'nt seen any myself,maybe i've just been to busy enjoying the game to even notice.abusive language i can live with,personaly i dont care much about it & i'd see the funny side of it no doupt if aimed at me,but saying that you've still got a point about abuse that i agree with for those who dont want to tolerate it or take things to heart easily.
6.yeah we have & still are paying for it yet they are very slow at fixing things but they had the time to make 2 booster packs plus start getting stuck into making 2142 when they should've put that time & effort into fixing what we've already paid for,hence shows their leaned more towards wanting more money than releasing a stable quality product.
7.still,the majority of servers are either under admined or poorly admined when their on,i've admined myself,only for a month or so though as the clan fell apart as the server/clan owner was way to young & imature.i know what its like to try & keep the peace/minimise to use bf2cc & play at the same time.if i had my own server i'd try having admin's from different countrys so you'd have more chance of having the server admins available as their on a different time zone maybe.at least a lot of servers need to rethink the members they give admin right to,that'd sort a few problems people have with admins kicking/banning & what not for unfair reasons.
8.my 'bitching & moaning' was more worded in a way that'd fit in with the way others tend to express themselves on here more than anything,other than the swearing lol thats just how i talk most the time,(other than this post lol thaught i'd keep it extra clean case any's took as me being an ass to your replies:))
no offense taken at all from anything you said lol my posts are there to be criticised & responded to & i'm glad you did.
off to let my fingers cool down after this long story lol..
laterz.
Last edited by -=5TON3D (2006-06-18 16:52:17)
if someone cheats in a video game to get more points than me, a award, or a 2 kilobyte sized image next to there name am i going to waste even a second reporting them to get there account wiped? No im not, it doesnt affect my game physically at all. Im with elixer.
Oh...well, that's ok then.-=5TON3D wrote:
Loadsa stuff
BFROE is just a pathetic rip-off. I submitted like 5 100% sure statpadders+k/p players a month ago.
Has ANY action been taken against those account? Hell no.
Also caught one of, viewing his stats here on bf2s and he was online playing k/p only.
Took a screen, sent it to BFROE and they've not done anything
Has ANY action been taken against those account? Hell no.
Also caught one of, viewing his stats here on bf2s and he was online playing k/p only.
Took a screen, sent it to BFROE and they've not done anything
a little background on how our system works..
when you submit that report, the system automatically starts to track that player for a set amount of time 1-2 weeks.
After which the ticket is kicked out to one of my people who then review all screen shots and stats, if the report is valid it's then verified.
once the ticket has been verified it's then kicked up so that a director or myself can again review each report to ensure that the report is indeed valid..
once we verify that this report is valid it's then put into the reported list for EA to pickup or in some cases emailed to EACS..
this process may take 3 weeks on it's own..
once EACS receives or picks up the reports then the CS team reevaluates each report before any action is taken...
this just doesn't happen over night..
the system was setup this way to make sure the "I GOT PWNED" and innocent players and servers do not make it thru the reporting system
hope this helps
Indian
when you submit that report, the system automatically starts to track that player for a set amount of time 1-2 weeks.
After which the ticket is kicked out to one of my people who then review all screen shots and stats, if the report is valid it's then verified.
once the ticket has been verified it's then kicked up so that a director or myself can again review each report to ensure that the report is indeed valid..
once we verify that this report is valid it's then put into the reported list for EA to pickup or in some cases emailed to EACS..
this process may take 3 weeks on it's own..
once EACS receives or picks up the reports then the CS team reevaluates each report before any action is taken...
this just doesn't happen over night..
the system was setup this way to make sure the "I GOT PWNED" and innocent players and servers do not make it thru the reporting system
hope this helps
Indian
Last edited by BFROE|IndianScout (2006-06-29 08:56:18)
so is that why Mele4nyc got reset? 3 weeks of tracking and he still got reset? ffs
you have to understand we dont reset anyone...
EACS does..
it's their call not ours
EACS does..
it's their call not ours
Yay, BF2 Gestapo.
watch these and you might have a better idea about what Indainscout gets up to !!!
Hopper is a radio show host for a podcast, some crap over indainscout being an ass!
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=20549 part 1
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=20555 part 2
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=20568 part 3
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=20577 part 4
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=20592 part 5
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=20608 part 6
Teh saga of Hopper: Part 7: the framing of SMPR
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=20666
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=20940 Ep 8 new
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=21363 Ep 9 new
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=21415 ep 10 new
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=21439 ep 11 new
Hopper is a radio show host for a podcast, some crap over indainscout being an ass!
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=20549 part 1
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=20555 part 2
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=20568 part 3
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=20577 part 4
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=20592 part 5
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=20608 part 6
Teh saga of Hopper: Part 7: the framing of SMPR
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=20666
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=20940 Ep 8 new
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=21363 Ep 9 new
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=21415 ep 10 new
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=21439 ep 11 new
it can't be many that get through by mistake, I'd be interested to know the percentage of resets that have been reinstated against the number of tickets raised.
I've had some small insight into what these guys are like and am glad they are a, there, and b, rigorous in their detection.
props
I've had some small insight into what these guys are like and am glad they are a, there, and b, rigorous in their detection.
props
Hopper is a wannabe journalist with no creditentials and no I am not letting him in my reporting systemDr Pepper wrote:
watch these and you might have a better idea about what Indainscout gets up to !!!
Hopper is a radio show host for a podcast, some crap over indainscout being an ass!
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=20549 part 1
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=20555 part 2
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=20568 part 3
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=20577 part 4
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=20592 part 5
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=20608 part 6
Teh saga of Hopper: Part 7: the framing of SMPR
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=20666
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=20940 Ep 8 new
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=21363 Ep 9 new
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=21415 ep 10 new
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=21439 ep 11 new
so they can make all the video's they want..
pretty childish if you ask me..
funny how they sign up just to flame, go back where you came from..
Last edited by BFROE|IndianScout (2006-07-02 11:49:07)
BFROE.....we owned them.....we owned them all HARD.
TOP loved the "play the staff day". They never took off more than fifteen tickets in ten rounds.
Its good to know that such a group determines what is possible in this game.
TOP loved the "play the staff day". They never took off more than fifteen tickets in ten rounds.
Its good to know that such a group determines what is possible in this game.
I'm feeling a little embarressed here but I'll ask anyhow-
What is stat padding? :S
What is stat padding? :S