Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|7097|Warlord
Okay, I meant to post something on this a while ago but it happened to me again last night and other situations in the same game made it all the more you have got to be freakin' kidding me!!!

Case 1 from last night:
I'm in an Abrams and I get killed by a single SRAW, instantly*. The tank I'm pretty sure was at full health but it may have been one bar down, no more.

What made this all the more annoying is in the same map on the same server I got killed crossing the road by an enemy driving the Abrams out from the TV station, so I spawn at Construction Site as anti-tank and get an unscoped shot to the side skirts, get killed. I respawn and get a snap shot on him from above, to the engine bay. He kills me with a shot from the main gun (very suspicious shot too since I was on the roof of the south building and the rocket and shell almost passed each other in the air but it could have just been sucky luck, happens to everyone)

I see him driving down the hill during the countdown so I respawn there, get another shot off from the roof (again, no scope, hits front glacis or turret) get killed almost instantly by the main gun. Respawn inside the building, get another shot off - noticing that the tank is not smoking! - get killed. Then the flag is taken and I can't spawn there again to see if he's on fire.

What the hell??? This is four shots to armour, including one to the tracks, without him having the chance to get out and repair, even if he were an engineer. Can the hit detection be that bad - I see and hear the strike but I actually missed? Do rockets vanish if you're dead before they strike the target?

Case 2 from a month or so ago:
Can you kill an APC outright with a single round from the Abrams? Yes I'm certain the APC was at full health and the shot was the first from the Abrams. The belly?

*I've searched here and on other BF2 forums about this but people disagree and I don't know if the patches may have changed things. I've been killed in armour literally more times than I can count with single SRAWs and tank shells so, currently, can you knock out armour with single shots?

Yes I've seen lord_tyler_486's signature pic and I've tried this singleplayer repeatedly without being able to replicate it. I've tested TOW, Eryx, SRAW and tank against tank on the turret ring from all angles and I've counted the number of hits to all the known zones - tracks, turret front and sides, turret bustle, engine deck, engine exhaust, front glacis top and bottom, turret ring, top of tracks, commander's cupola, side skirts... is it just a case of needing to practice more?
Solarity
Member
+0|7055|Gleneagles, Scotland
Yes, its quite possible to kill tanks and APCs in 1 hit from other thanks, for the tank there is a very small area that you must aim for, can take a few goes to get it right.  For APC just aim at the wheel arches...  Same for the TOWs..
*TS*tphai
The Forum Alien
+89|7276|The planet Tophet
wow thats weird i would have got mad and used c-4 after a while
buttered noodle
Member
+16|7116|ohio
its called supply drops that healed him
Dr.Battlefield
Got milk?
+150|7222
I saw that 1-hit spot in someone's sig. This spot makes your shell ricochet and hit the tank twice. I think that's the way it works.
MooseRyder
Member
+37|7125|Montréal, Canada
yeah i seen that sig too but i cant remember where he was aiming on the tank lol
krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
+619|7250|Great Brown North
i can kill tanks and apcs with one shot from the TOW on most cases, can get the apc burning if not explode immediatley with one AT rocket and can really really hurt the tanks with one AT rocket AT whore FTW!
no_today
Member
+1|7098
more than once I hit armor without using scope, I don't see a "hit" sign on impact.........
no mather what area you shoot at....so I guess this shot doesn't make any damage.

there's definately some sort of bug causing this.

hitpoints? http://www.secretsofbattlefield.com/hitpoints.php

Last edited by no_today (2006-04-19 15:54:08)

Stumanbmx
S!l3nt But D3adly
+86|7074|Pickle Village
Once I was driving around in a tank and saw a fresh tank come from a US base and took a wild shot at it.  It blew up right away, it was sweet but I have never been able to replicate it

Last edited by Stumanbmx (2006-04-19 15:58:34)

Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|7097|Warlord

Solarity wrote:

Yes, its quite possible to kill tanks and APCs in 1 hit from other thanks, for the tank there is a very small area that you must aim for
I'm aware of it as I mentioned but I've never managed to do it myself after countless practices singleplayer. And given the tiny aiming area the amount of times it has happened to me makes me very suspicious, call my a cynic but that's some pretty damned fine aiming even with a guy asleep at the wheel capping a flag, but at full speed (sometimes up a hill, sometimes flat, sometimes just as I round a corner) and get nailed instantly...

Solarity wrote:

For APC just aim at the wheel arches...  Same for the TOWs..
Well I'll try more but I've read in numerous places that it's two shots to kill an APC, regardless of where you aim. One guide even specifically mentioned that the wheels are not a weak point as stated elsewhere and that looks like the case when I've tested.

buttered noodle wrote:

its called supply drops that healed him
lord_tyler_486

krazed wrote:

i can kill tanks and apcs with one shot from the TOW on most cases...
Not the TOW - tank's main gun or shoulder-launched rockets. Any hit to the tracks, front or back and sometimes side with a TOW is an instant kill to the tank, two shots with the cannon, SRAW or Eryx.

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