Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|6898|Warlord
Play as sniper. I know it's obvious but I was surprised at just how well this works... read on.

I started practicing sniping primarily to try to get on a par with a friend who introduced me to the game, so we could go as a two-man sniping squad. He's the best FPS sniper I know personally and his stats show something of how skilled he is:
Global accuracy 29.75%, K/D Ratio 1.01.

But his sniper-rifle stats are a better indicator; he doesn't play that much so he only has a little over a thousand kills with a scope but his accuracy is 47.08%. I've seen him get headshots from South Base to North Base on Wake (checked the distance, 428m - good stuff by any standard it would appear) and in the same game hit moving targets diagonally across the bay in (I ranged this using the squad-leader map thing, 320m) and it's his willingness to attempt shots like this that mean his scores aren't quite as high as they might be, but he'll regularly nail guys running at 100m+ with the L96.

Anyway, since I started my campaign I've increased by global accuracy noticeably in less than two weeks. I'm only an okay player, better than a lot of grunts but nothing special as my stats show, although like many of us I have good days (like last night, more on that below). My global accuracy is now 18.72%, up from around 17.3/17.4. But I wanted to get a concrete idea of what the last fortnight concentrating on the sniper kit had done to improve my skill with the scope, minus all my early noobage, bullet-spraying with the PKM and lack of knowledge of bullet drop to drag it down. So, I logged in to my other account, which had a whopping 11 points, and had a good innings last night.
Me:
Global accuracy 18.72%, K/D Ratio 0.88 and accuracy with the sniper rifle of 38.37% (up from 36.something I think).

The other me:
Global accuracy 40.43%, K/D Ratio 1.01. sniper-rifle accuracy 50.62%.

So if your score is in the low teens to 20s you can make some serious headway in your accuracy stat over a fairly short time if you're interested and you're average or better. I'd recommend trying to play sniper religiously throughout the game to keep in the right mindset, I think this helps.

Now you could go a lot further than I have and play as a dedicated stand-off sniper - this type of play just doesn't suit my character, I don't like waiting around for kills so I cap flags, drop claymores to defend them and generally try to stay useful to the developing situation so I'll switch kits if the need arises but this puts you more in harm's way and you pay the penalty trying to shoot under automatic fire if your reflexes aren't excellent. But if you're more disciplined, play sneaky (hide, shoot, move) and concentrate on the surer shots, it'll make even more difference faster, although it takes better aim since you'll generally be shooting over much longer distances plus your score won't benefit as much from the easy kills via the claymores (plus an extra point for flag defence if placed carefully).
Picouz/VoiD
The Insomniac
+39|6936
Ehm, no shit Sherlock.
0akleaves
Member
+183|6884|Newcastle UK
LMAO +1 for you
You have to learn the rules of the game and then you have to play better than anyone else.
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|6898|Warlord

Picouz/VoiD wrote:

Ehm, no shit Sherlock.
Like I said I know it's obvious It's the degree to which this helps that I thought might be news to some people and other players who are in roughly the same shoes that may wish to work on this part of their stats.
BlueScreen
I am the pwnage! Bitches!
+5|7010|Finland
lol what was point of whole thing? so if you want lie for yourself you start sniping so you'll get better overal accuracy.. no shit?! I really don't care what's my overall accuracy and I really don't want to fake it with sniper. If I'm sometimes to looking my accuracy I want to know how good I'm with closecombat weapons and if my accuracy is rised a little maybe.
MarkPuppets
Member
+16|6964|from my PC
Personally, I think snipers are total useless rubbish. WHY? Cuz I have never ever seen them to help win the game, they just camp in one place and the last to die. Snipers only care about thier "own" personal score NOT the team or winning. Who gives a jack about global score anyway ??
Impaqt
Member
+37|6909|Chicago, Il
A High Sniper accuracy isnt going to Skew your global accuracy all that much once your an established player....  Look at me 56% Sniper accuracy.. but only 22% Global.....  I was as green as green can be when I started....  After a month or so I was around 8% Global with a K/D or .33!

You want to artifically inflate your accuracy?  MG-36 Choppers and vehicles.....
Speelbal
Member
+146|7023|Netherlands
I have 47 % accuracy, 1.96 Kill death ratio. All with the M95. I use a lot of pistol too when I'm sniper. 1767 pistol kills with an accuracy of 27%. Would this make me a good sniper?

Your post is obvious, but I believe most people tend to forget why some people have a higher global acuracy than others.

BTW:

MarkPuppets wrote:

Personally, I think snipers are total useless rubbish. WHY? Cuz I have never ever seen them to help win the game, they just camp in one place and the last to die. Snipers only care about thier "own" personal score NOT the team or winning. Who gives a jack about global score anyway ??
Snipers can contribute to your team. They are excellent to defend points and stop enemy infantry from gaining access to certain places. You're right about attacking though. A sniper is almost useless in attacking an enemy flag. They can only clear out the area and spot enemies from a distance. If binoculars would be introduced in the game, snipers would indeed almost be useless.

Last edited by Speelbal (2006-04-22 11:02:43)

R0lyP0ly
Member
+161|6925|USA

MarkPuppets wrote:

Personally, I think snipers are total useless rubbish. WHY? Cuz I have never ever seen them to help win the game, they just camp in one place and the last to die. Snipers only care about thier "own" personal score NOT the team or winning. Who gives a jack about global score anyway ??
you dont get around much do you??

http://bf2s.com/player/43888189/

http://bf2s.com/player/46218418/
FromTheAshes
Member
+53|6976

Picouz/VoiD wrote:

Ehm, no shit Sherlock.
DSRTurtle
Member
+56|6957

MarkPuppets wrote:

Personally, I think snipers are total useless rubbish. WHY? Cuz I have never ever seen them to help win the game, they just camp in one place and the last to die. Snipers only care about thier "own" personal score NOT the team or winning. Who gives a jack about global score anyway ??
Snipers are not useless.  They are good protecting flags that can only be capped by foot soldiers.  The can pick off the enemy commander across the map on a good day.  Every time they kill a foot soldier that isn't revived that's one less ticket for the enemy just like every other kit.  They cause confusion by taking out a guy in an enemy squad and then everyone else is looking for the sniper when the rest of your squad comes in and mops up the mess.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6987
accuracy % is the total of all shots fired and shots hit
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Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|6898|Warlord

BlueScreen wrote:

lol what was point of whole thing?
Do you see the title?

BlueScreen wrote:

so if you want lie for yourself you start sniping so you'll get better overal accuracy.. no shit?!
Eh? Lie to yourself???

BlueScreen wrote:

I really don't care what's my overall accuracy and I really don't want to fake it with sniper.
Fake it? Hey, last time I checked you still have to control the mouse yourself...

MarkPuppets wrote:

Personally, I think snipers are total useless rubbish. WHY? Cuz I have never ever seen them to help win the game...
Too bad, you've never played with any of the right type of player. On Karkand and Sharqi snipers can make an important difference. I normally cap all the time, regardless of the class I happen to be and as I said previously I like to get stuck in; on Sharqi of late I usually have the most flag defends - that's making a difference too. And this is because that's what I use my clays on mostly, not for personal defence but to aid the team's goal.

Look at my stats, 1,700+ caps for a score of 16K, with 581 assists and 328 defends. Compare those to people whose scores are ten times and more what mine is... in fact while you're at it compare it to yours Lieutenant, then get back to me.

Impaqt wrote:

A High Sniper accuracy isnt going to Skew your global accuracy all that much once your an established player....
My post was for those interested who still have relatively modest scores, like mine - plenty of folks still 20K or less.

Impaqt wrote:

I was as green as green can be when I started....  After a month or so I was around 8% Global with a K/D or .33!
But look at you now - that shows what I'm getting at. I've only been playing for a little over two months by the way.

Impaqt wrote:

You want to artifically inflate your accuracy?  MG-36 Choppers and vehicles.....
That would inflate your K/D ratio, not necessarily your accuracy.

DSRTurtle wrote:

Snipers are not useless.  They are good protecting flags that can only be capped by foot soldiers.... Every time they kill a foot soldier that isn't revived that's one less ticket for the enemy just like every other kit.
Yep, and this may be the single most-often overlooked point about snipers in the complaints about them.

DSRTurtle wrote:

They cause confusion by taking out a guy in an enemy squad and then everyone else is looking for the sniper when the rest of your squad comes in and mops up the mess.
Too right.
Impaqt
Member
+37|6909|Chicago, Il
Impaqt wrote:
You want to artifically inflate your accuracy?  MG-36 Choppers and vehicles.....

Todd
That would inflate your K/D ratio, not necessarily your accuracy.

UM..  no, Your not going tokill many CHoppers or cehiclew with a M36..  But your going to register
a ton of hits
Mj.Blindfisch
Bulletdrop-Buddha
+338|6968|Germany

Impaqt wrote:

Impaqt wrote:
You want to artifically inflate your accuracy?  MG-36 Choppers and vehicles.....

Todd
That would inflate your K/D ratio, not necessarily your accuracy.

UM..  no, Your not going tokill many CHoppers or cehiclew with a M36..  But your going to register
a ton of hits
Yup,he's right,I have an accuracy of 48.17% with the sniper rifle and I shoot at helis and buggys like crazy.
If you get the hit indicator in your crosshairs it's added to your accuracy stats.
DSRTurtle
Member
+56|6957
The M95 or anyother weapon can actually kill a vehicle if you hit at the right time with either enough bullets or it has previous damage.  I got my basic Spec Ops and Spec Ops Specialist badges on Ghosttown by emptying the Russian Spec Ops basic weapon into a smoking blackhawk for kills 4, 5 and 6.  Any chance I get I try to use the M95 to shoot out chopper pilots as they fly by.  It usually takes 2 shots for me to. but if they start looking for you, it helps if your quick enough to get that 2nd shot off.
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|6898|Warlord

Impaqt wrote:

UM..  no, Your not going tokill many CHoppers or cehiclew with a M36..  But your going to register a ton of hits
Ah sorry, I misunderstood completely. I thought you meant use the MG36, choppers or vehicles, not use the MG36 on vehicles!

DSRTurtle wrote:

The M95 or anyother weapon can actually kill a vehicle if you hit at the right time with either enough bullets or it has previous damage.
Pun intended, it's always worth a shot if you see a manned vehicle smoking... just for a laugh I shot at a smoking chopper in Sharqi last night as it whizzed over Construction Site and got credit for the deaths of the pilot and gunner a second later. Not too shabby since I was armed with the M24.

DSRTurtle wrote:

Any chance I get I try to use the M95 to shoot out chopper pilots as they fly by.  It usually takes 2 shots for me to. but if they start looking for you, it helps if your quick enough to get that 2nd shot off.
I still haven't managed to do that, try plenty though. I must not be aiming right because my ping is okay.
DSRTurtle
Member
+56|6957

Todd_Angelo wrote:

I still haven't managed to do that, try plenty though. I must not be aiming right because my ping is okay.
Keep trying is the best advice I have.  You will be able to do it one of these days.  I've gotten better and shooting the machinegunner out of the top of the tank now. 
taxi2you
Member
+22|6915|Missouri
I have 3 sniper friends that can mow down a squad faster than any 3-4 guys with  full auto anythings.  There is nothing better on the game than 3-4 good snipers with support and a medic.  We can hold half of Oman buy ourselves.  No ground pounders in sight, for long anyway.
Ilocano
buuuurrrrrrppppp.......
+341|6938

taxi2you wrote:

I have 3 sniper friends that can mow down a squad faster than any 3-4 guys with  full auto anythings.  There is nothing better on the game than 3-4 good snipers with support and a medic.  We can hold half of Oman buy ourselves.  No ground pounders in sight, for long anyway.
I don't know about that.  All Oman flags can be vehicle capped.  Your squad should have at least one armor-killer.

Not griping about sniper effectiveness though.  Two nights ago, as sniper, I had plenty of fun defending the Sharqi Hotel flag, and sniping USMC grunts trying to kill our MEC snipers over the first hill on the middle MEC spawn.  Great fun being a backup sniper, backing up our forward snipers.
INCSOC
Member since 1984
+113|6950|Denver, CO

Picouz/VoiD wrote:

Ehm, no shit Sherlock.
https://x402.putfile.com/4/11316175373.jpg
lol
E7IX3R
is drunk and crazy
+216|6959|UK
44% with my sniper rifle.
Cougar
Banned
+1,962|7036|Dallas
Want to raise your accuracy?  IF on MEC or Chinese, go to the Carrier and shoot the AA Gun with your pistol.  Even if no one is in it, it still registers a hit.  Use all of your clips.
Picouz/VoiD
The Insomniac
+39|6936

INCSOC wrote:

Picouz/VoiD wrote:

Ehm, no shit Sherlock.
http://x402.putfile.com/4/11316175373.jpg
lol
Rofl.
IronFerret
Member
+48|6928|Mexico City.
accuracy is a pointless stat.. what about supresive fire?.. some times its helpfull to shot to some areas, almost random.

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