BF2S Forums What weapons will the A-10 have?

MrE`158 wrote:

Coolbeano wrote:

Only thing I hope is that EA/DICE make it an A-10, not just another plane.
I don't care if it's shot down more easily, or has too much armor, or whatever, as long as players find it more effective for strafing and not bombing.

I'll second that, I'll be happy as long as it's distinctively a ground-attack aircraft.  Most importantly, the gun needs to be effective against armour, otherwise where's the point in implementing the plane in the first place?

I'm kinda curious what the other countries ground-attack planes will be, too.

I think the Harrier, not sure what else.
http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51154 Here are some pics, can you identify the aircraft types? (I think one is also a MiG of sorts)

benben10 wrote:

Of course the jets right now use a 20mm cannon, and i completely agree that the a-10's guns should do more damage since they are 30mm.

F-35......25mm
F-18......20mm
F-15......20mm

J-10......23mm
Su-30....30mm

MiG-29..30mm
Su-34...30mm


It's the depleated uranium rounds in the A-10 that do the damage.

Mcminty: The other aircraft is the Su-25 'Frogfoot' - essentially the Soviet answer to the A-10 or as they prefer to see it the ideological successor to the Il-2/10 Sturmovik of WW2 tank-busting fame.

Wiki link for Frogfoot:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frogfoot

Whilst a capable aircraft it just doesn't generate the same mystique or awe as the Warthog does, maybe 'cos it's 30mm cannon is wimpy compared to the GAU/8, maybe 'cos it's just too conventional looking to really stick in the imagination, who knows?

The Chinese aircraft is a Nanchang Q-5 'Fantan' I believe. Wiki link below:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanchang Q-5

It appears to be much older than the A-10/Su-25 being a 1960's design based on the old MiG-19 and from what I've read it doesn't really seem to be analagous to the A-10/Su-25 in it's role - they're both heavily armoured and carry a gun designed to smash tanks whilst the Q-5 doesn't appear to have either of those assets. Interesting to see how EA translate this to the game the A-10 might be the best tank killer, the Su-25 might be the best 'general' ground attack aircraft and maybe the Q-5 will be the top dog in air-to-air against the other ground attack aircraft *shrug*

As has been said, the A-10 will have to be roughly equal to the Q5 and SU-25, as well as being not too strong vs the tanks. Expect to be dissapointed.

The Recon helis will have a foward facing minigun, plus 1 or possibly 2 guys sitting on the sides. This guy(s) can shoot forward, sideways and backwards. You can see here:



The A10 seems to have the chin cannon p[lus 1 on each wing, as well as large bombs (clusters?). EA have said rocket pods. See here:

Last edited by Talon (2006-05-05 08:45:29)

Apparently the "Frogfoot" in question here is the Su-39, an update on the Su-25.  I looooved the Frogfoot in Desert Combat, it was awesome, so I'm looking forward to the new, shiny model.

Apparently from all the pictures posted it will drop two bombs at a time so this will probably be a single seater type jet like the others.

I can only hope that its flight characteristics are different than the fighters. The A-10 is a tank killer, air to ground is it's intent.

If EA (and thats a big if to probably not) follows the characteristics of the jet, it shouldn't be that great of a flyer nor should it fly very fast.

But what it should have is a very low stall speed and be quite forgiving at low speeds.

I know someone who has flown the A-10 in real life, the cannons on the jet are astounding. In real life the aircraft has to be traveling faster than 200+ knots inorder for the cannons to begin firing. Basically the cannons will burst and your nose will feel like it's going to be pressed against the front cockpit glass as the airplane rapidly slows to about 180 knots then regains the lost speed. Think of being tossed back and forth in your seat as the cannons are blazing.

Remember high school physics the amount of lead travelling forward out of the nose cannon is heavy and fast enough to slow the airplane. That's how serious the A-10 cannons are.

I have a feeling that EA will either nerf the plane from the get go, or a patch will come out quickly thereafter.

We will just have to wait and see... this aircraft may actually make me buy armoured fury if it's not that buggy.

I bet they'll have frickin' LazErs.

Here's the real cannon. The jet is built around it.

I think both A-10 , Q-5 and SU-25 will have 30mm GUN , same bombs that are carried by fighters and missiles like chopper pilot have ( maybe this ones will have splash effect like they have in SF , it will be cool )
And maybe one more kind of weapon , like AT laser guided missile or casset bombs ( not shure if it is correct , probably you all will understand what I mean )

A little background info (for those who didnt read the wiki article/s)
The A-10 was the FIRST  aircraft made for the USAF that was specifically made for ground support/attack, it might be made for ground support/assault, but if its cannons are turned on a jet it would tear it to shreads/scrap metal.Its armements include 1x 30 mm GAU-8/A Avenger seven-barrel Gatling gun with 1,350 rounds(a mix of 1/4 depleted uranium shells and 3/4PGU-13/B High-Explosive Incendiary rounds) .8x underwing and 3x under-fuselage pylon stations holding 7,200 kg, housing (any of the following):
Mk 82, Mk 83, and Mk 84 general-purpose bombs, Mk 77 incendiary bombs ,BLU-1, BLU-27/B Rockeye II, BL755 and CBU-52/58/71/87/89/97 cluster bombs, GBU-10 Paveway II, GBU-12 Paveway II, GBU-16 Paveway II and GBU-24 Paveway III laser-guided bombs, AGM-65 Maverick and AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles
LAU-68 Hydra 70 mm and 127 mm rocket pods. So it is a versitile weapon.
The Frogfoot was made in Russia, as a ground attack aircraft (well duh!!), it sports 30mm cannons (like the A-10) and is still used as a ground support aircraft in  Afghanistan, Angola, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Ethiopia, Georgia, Iran, Iraq, Kazakhstan, Republic of Macedonia, North Korea, Peru, Russia, Slovakia, Turkmenistan,Uzbekistan and Ukraine
All i hope , is that the A-10 and SU-25 "Frogfoot". get the same stopping power as in D.C
Cause if the dont! *Shakes fist at E.A/Dice*

im waiting for Point of Existence to come out
kinda like BF2 except free with a ton of more stuff better balenced and the A10 will not be a peice of shit

mcminty wrote:

RhadamanthysSCC, thankyou for clarifying the other types of aircraft.

Talon wrote:

The A10 seems to have the chin cannon p[lus 1 on each wing, as well as large bombs (clusters?). EA have said rocket pods. See here:

http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article … 232234.jpg

Not sure where the other two are. If you mean the two larger "pods" that are close to the fuselage, then those are for the landing gear...

http://photos.airliners.net/photos/midd … 041149.jpg

See here: Although on reflection, those might be rocket pods.

but EA is gonna nerf it like the black hawk gun and it will suck... maybe but its not released yet so i dont know

Firestarter wrote:

You can't nerf the A-10....it's just not possible, even with EA/DiCE working on it....



Edited for typo's

if they did... i wouldnt buy armour fury. but then again n00bs will complain about "omfg too powerful!!!"