Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7073|132 and Bush

Is it just me or does anyone else think that snipers should be awarded a bonus point for kills? With UAV and scans how long can a sniper really last? I think the scoring system should be tweaked to give bonus points for more challeging things like using a knife...etc. Sneaking into an enemy's base and blowing up there stuff gives you 1 point. I think it should maybe be upped a little. You can spend your whole time dedicated to running around the enemy's base and come out with like 30 points..lol


FYI: I myself don't snipe, I just think it's worth another point.

Last edited by Kmarion (2006-05-02 05:19:53)

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ssonrats
Member
+221|7117
Maybe +1 teamwork for a headshot? Dunno maybe not lol. One thing's sure, snipers dont receive enough points.
Ssandstorm
Member
+73|7206|Perth, Western Australia
hahaha, i can only hope snipers start getting extra points, cause instead of getting 80 points a round id get 120, i beg EA to impliment this change as quickly as is humanly possible
a fly
Member
+105|7116|The netherlands
i totely disagree for the following reasons: as sniper, you dont die much if you shoot before you get shot, isent to hard at long range. and at short range, 1 bullet anywhere, 1 pistol anywhere (oke, sometimes 2).

The commander assets, should be worth more, but not more then 2 points. olso spec ops should have 3 c4, but 1 is enough for a tank, and enough for arty ect.

but, i think snipers should get 1 extra point for shooting people out of driver seats and if its a plane, 2 extra points (only if the plane is flying over 200 KM/H).

and, evry gun exept pistol should be 1 shot in the head = dead, but if its 50 ,meter away then not.
ReDmAn_ThE_uNiQuE
oh hai :D
+156|7123|The Netherlands

ssonrats wrote:

One thing's sure, snipers dont receive enough points.
thats right however i can easily end up in the first 3 with sniper
Pfc. Leemus
Ownerer via the strategic use of bullets
+20|7079|N.S.W, Australia
I'm gunna have to disagree.
Snipers DO get alot of points as demonstrated by Ssandstorm.
They just need to practice as snipers need alot of skill.
And id rether it not turn into a whorage class.
Id kill to beable get 80 points per round as in

POSSIBLY i mean POSSIBLY give snipers an extra point if their kill is over a certain distance..mabye for a headshot.. who knows. Itll never happen.

Last edited by Pfc. Leemus (2006-05-02 05:32:54)

Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|7134|USA

Kmarion wrote:

Is it just me or does anyone else think that snipers should be awarded a bonus point for kills? With UAV and scans how long can a sniper really last? I think the scoring system should be tweaked to give bonus points for more challeging things like using a knife...etc. Sneaking into an enemy's base and blowing up there stuff gives you 1 point. I think it should maybe be upped a little. You can spend your whole time dedicated to running around the enemy's base and come out with like 30 points..lol


FYI: I myself don't snipe, I just think it's worth another point.
How do I feel....I played spec ops like a champ from the start and we got ZERO, I'll say it again ZERO points for blowing up asssets. I would have loved to have the 1 point for each thing then. To think I wasted the first 3 months blowing that shit up for nothing. But hey, I got my hours.....what bullshit....
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7073|132 and Bush

Ok well then some of you people have some dumb commanders. Any time a sniper starts doing any"REAL" damage its Scan and Arty. Maybe a UAV in there. Snipers don't work with a team that plays together.
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Sgt.Zubie
Member
+77|7047
Interesting.hmmm maybe the headshot at say over 400 could be worth one extra point. It's pretty good like it is though. Speaking of extra points I would like to see AT soldier get one for destroying a tank.
Tor77
Ron Jeremy Apprentice
+84|7124|Norway
I disagree with you. Snipers are - generally speaking - a waste of digital skin. It's the most "selfish" class of all and all they do is hog up space to rack up kills. Most of the time they get 5-8 kills in a round unless they claymore-whore on Karkand. Oh look at me! I can stay on a roof top for 20 minutes without dying!

OK, it's not that bad but you know what I mean. The only times I play sniper is on larger vehicle maps when I'm a squad leader. Some might argue that they are lying prone and defending flags from a distant but most of the time they fail at that as well. Besides, those that argue about sniper being a l337 class are snipers themselves.

I have seen some sniper videos around here and although fun to watch you don't help your team out by lying on the US island on Wake taking out Solo Driver Bob.

Totally agree with Mason4 - add more points to valuable things like taking out enemy assets, killing the commander, capping flags alone etc. +1 to you Mason!

Last edited by Tor77 (2006-05-02 06:56:03)

joker8baller
Member
+68|7139
I really hate these idiots that rag on snipers. I mean seriously, it's an easy class, but it does require a good amount of school. As a sniper I can already rack up in to the top 3 in any heavy firefight map... one shot to the head does wonder for me. Best thing is a sniper can be right on the front lines...

Or you can look at those medics who go around resurrecting you in front of freaking apc's.
Buzerk1
Member
+44|7308

Tor77 wrote:

I disagree with you. Snipers are - generally speaking - a waste of digital skin. It's the most "selfish" class of all and all they do is hog up space to rack up kills. Most of the time they get 5-8 kills in a round unless they claymore-whore on Karkand. Oh look at me! I can stay on a roof top for 20 minutes without dying!

OK, it's not that bad but you know what I mean. The only times I play sniper is on larger vehicle maps when I'm a squad leader. Some might argue that they are lying prone and defending flags from a distant but most of the time they fail at that as well. Besides, those that argue about sniper being a l337 class are snipers themselves.

I have seen some sniper videos around here and although fun to watch you don't help your team out by lying on the US island on Wake taking out Solo Driver Bob.

Totally agree with Mason4 - add more points to valuable things like taking out enemy assets, killing the commander, capping flags alone etc. +1 to you Mason!
Every kills bring the ticket down, Sniper are one the most efficient to protect flags (right up there with Support). Yes I have less team point when I play Sniper, but that's because it is suicide to cap a flag by yourself as a Sniper if you have no claymore left. But I still cap flags when I can.

Because you usually get a high K/D ratio as a sniper, you actually help your team.... which is better... 40 kills for 34 deaths or 20 kills and 3 deaths? And I get that a lot lately with Sniper.

BTW, I play all the kits.... they all have they up side and down side, it is up to you to "exploit" the up side.

Last edited by Buzerk1 (2006-05-02 07:12:49)

Tor77
Ron Jeremy Apprentice
+84|7124|Norway

joker8baller wrote:

I really hate these idiots that rag on snipers. I mean seriously, it's an easy class, but it does require a good amount of school. As a sniper I can already rack up in to the top 3 in any heavy firefight map... one shot to the head does wonder for me. Best thing is a sniper can be right on the front lines...

Or you can look at those medics who go around resurrecting you in front of freaking apc's.
I read you, sorry for being too general. But like you say, it's an easy class which will attract lazy people (being general again). But like Buzerk1 said: 40 kills for 34 deaths or 20 kills and 3 deaths? And I get that a lot lately with Sniper.  That's just proving my point. I don't care how many deaths I have if I'm helping the team out. Killing 40 people and dying 34 times shows you've been giving it all to help your team out.

But I guess my arguements can be used about aviators killing 50 and dying 1 during a round as well. Anyway, just airing my arguements in a discussion.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7073|132 and Bush

Good commander = Dead sniper
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joker8baller
Member
+68|7139
Alright... I understand the snipers you talk about, mainly I'm up there with front line troops, just maybe 30-50m behind them, and I usually spot/kill to clear their patch... Mainly I believe in BF 2 a sniper is right on up there, just barely back there ready to headshot all of em. 1 shot, 1 kill. Make use of it and help your teammates cap that flag. Someone tries to come in? Headshot ><
Buzerk1
Member
+44|7308

Tor77 wrote:

joker8baller wrote:

I really hate these idiots that rag on snipers. I mean seriously, it's an easy class, but it does require a good amount of school. As a sniper I can already rack up in to the top 3 in any heavy firefight map... one shot to the head does wonder for me. Best thing is a sniper can be right on the front lines...

Or you can look at those medics who go around resurrecting you in front of freaking apc's.
I read you, sorry for being too general. But like you say, it's an easy class which will attract lazy people (being general again). But like Buzerk1 said: 40 kills for 34 deaths or 20 kills and 3 deaths? And I get that a lot lately with Sniper.  That's just proving my point. I don't care how many deaths I have if I'm helping the team out. Killing 40 people and dying 34 times shows you've been giving it all to help your team out.

But I guess my arguements can be used about aviators killing 50 and dying 1 during a round as well. Anyway, just airing my arguements in a discussion.
That's where you are wrong, you should care about the number of time you die, because everytime you bring your team ticket down. I guess you didn't understood what I tried to point out.... if your differential is only 7 compare to 13 for the Sniper, then the Sniper did a better job then you did. As for the aviators, if they can pull a 50-1, I'm all for it, as long as they don't have a nice -23 in the team point (meaning they brought down their team ticket)
Tor77
Ron Jeremy Apprentice
+84|7124|Norway

Buzerk1 wrote:

That's where you are wrong, you should care about the number of time you die, because everytime you bring your team ticket down. I guess you didn't understood what I tried to point out.... if your differential is only 7 compare to 13 for the Sniper, then the Sniper did a better job then you did.
Sorry, I thought you might be one of them stat whores who only cared about his K/D ratio. My bad! I totally get your point. I'm just sick of being either commander or squad leader and try to get people moving to strategic locations for capping flags - not getting kills for the sake of killing (and points).
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7073|132 and Bush

This game isn't for snipers unless the other team is are stetarded. pick the server, let me command and see how well you do. Period it's that easy. There is no stealth with a uav over your heads. Yes, it's that easy.
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Nyte
Legendary BF2S Veteran
+535|7224|Toronto, ON
This is where close range snipers come in.

UAV and SCAN are useless against me.
Alpha as fuck.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7073|132 and Bush

Nyte wrote:

This is where close range snipers come in.

UAV and SCAN are useless against me.
Tell it to my Heli and the big red dot telling me where u are.

Last edited by Kmarion (2006-05-02 08:00:08)

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Burning_Monkey
Moving Target
+108|7309
I, when I snipe, am glad when a commander decides to use assets to kill me.  Means I am doing my job well.  I have killed enough people to become a hazard, and the enemy commander is using up valuable assets to kill little ol' me instead of using them to kill the entire squad that is capping the flag on the other side of the map.

Blue smoke, mirrors and the art of distraction.  Being a sniper sometimes is being the annoying fly that needs to be swatted, drawing fire from where it does the most good for the enemy, to where it does the least good for the enemy.  At least for a while anyway.

But that is just my opinion, I am probably wrong.
FesterTheMolester
BF2s US Server Admin, IRC>Forums
+157|7112|The Mind Of A Cereal Killer
the knife part sounds like some hella statpadding there, but i do agree, some inexperianced snipers dont rack up the points, but just like noobs playing every other class
*ToRRo*cT|
Spanish Sniper-Wh0re
+199|7215|Malaga, EspaƱa
You got commanders that waste an arty on a sniper....while he could bomb the shit out of an Chokepoint.
that the part i dont understand.

in a good round i can end up with 28 kills and 3 deads. sweet.

@ Kmarion: You havent met my Stinger yet
FesterTheMolester
BF2s US Server Admin, IRC>Forums
+157|7112|The Mind Of A Cereal Killer

Kmarion wrote:

. There is no stealth with a uav over your heads. Yes, it's that easy.
i have to disagree, i think, that if you are really well hidden, the UAV doesnt always pick you up, i dont know, but ive seen it happen before
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7073|132 and Bush

*ToRRo*cT| wrote:

@ Kmarion: You havent met my Stinger yet
If you can snipe at close range and hit me with a stinger you most cetainly deserve a bonus point..lol
That is the point of this topic..
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