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2006-05-02 07:04:00
T4rd
Member
+44|7157|West Point, NY
I never really noticed this until after the last few patches, at least that I can remember.  Everytime I play as commander, my framerate drops considerably.  Not too bad while I'm on the commanders screen, but really badly while I'm out of it running around as a soldier.  Even after the round has ended and I'm not commander anymore afterwards, my framerate just stays down from when I started out.  I gotta restart the game to make it better again.  Before I'm commander, I get like 50-60 FPS at all times.  After I'm commander, I get like 15-30.  Really frustrating me.

I did most of the stuff in that "10 things to reduce lag" thread that Boris posted.  I couldn't tell any difference after doing any of it.  Raising the process priority on the game actually made it kinda buggy.  The re-nameing of the .exe file helped free resources though.. but I already had enough of it before with 2 GBs of RAM and page fileing turned off.  I have a Athlon 4000+ CPU and an ATI X850 XT PE which should definitely be good enough to run the game maxed out with 2x AA (which I always have been doing).  One weird thing is though, I can run the game fine at 6x AA fine with 30-50 FPS.. but after being commander, it's just totally unplayable. 

Has anyone else expirience this before?  I tried to search for it, but didn't find anything.  Any help would be much appreciated!
2006-05-02 10:13:22
Breez
AKA: badhq
+937|7113|Derby, England

Hi bro try looking at this thred

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=22556

See if it helps you ? :-)

Peace Boris
2006-05-02 15:06:23
T4rd
Member
+44|7157|West Point, NY
Thanks Boris, but as my original post stated, I already tried all of that stuff.  Has anyone tried playing this game on XP X64 edition?  I have that on another partition and it seems to run all my 32-bit software alright so far.  I think I might try that sometime.  But I'd still like some more peoples expirience with this problem.. if there are any.
2006-05-18 07:49:50
T4rd
Member
+44|7157|West Point, NY
I tried changing drivers to the newest ones.  I had CCC ver. 6.2, now I have CCC ver. 6.4.  It runs a tad better, but still get a unplayable framerate after I'm commander for a round.  Anyone have any kind of expirience like this?  It's baffling me still.

I would REALLY appreciate it if some people out there would try and help me out with this and will gladly +1 Karma to anyone that replies with some helpful info!
2006-05-20 21:40:35
T4rd
Member
+44|7157|West Point, NY
*bump
2006-05-20 21:53:58
SuB
Member
+50|7157
lol he advertises that thread everywhere.. and he obviously didn't read your post.. since u already tried it...
have u tried a re-install?
maybe u just weren't destined to command? lol
2006-05-21 04:23:27
Breez
AKA: badhq
+937|7113|Derby, England

SuB wrote:

lol he advertises that thread everywhere.. and he obviously didn't read your post.. since u already tried it...
have u tried a re-install?
maybe u just weren't destined to command? lol
is that the only advive you can give him? reinstall? nothing wrong with the game his just laggin so uninstalling would nbe BAD idea. And
No Obviesly I diden't read it. I'm sorry but I dont sit here and read every single post all the way trugh.

Peace Boris

Last edited by badhq (2006-05-21 04:39:38)

2006-05-21 04:38:27
Breez
AKA: badhq
+937|7113|Derby, England

T4rd wrote:

Thanks Boris, but as my original post stated, I already tried all of that stuff.  Has anyone tried playing this game on XP X64 edition?  I have that on another partition and it seems to run all my 32-bit software alright so far.  I think I might try that sometime.  But I'd still like some more peoples expirience with this problem.. if there are any.
Any firewalls running in bg? Or any antipopups running ?

Go run type in msconfig go start up and have a look what you have ticked there, click disable all, hit apply, it will ask you to restart restart it, and then try running your BF2 see if you still lag out also

Whats your video settings ? ( might be idea to turn them down to low settings )

Peace Boris
2006-05-21 05:52:55
SuB
Member
+50|7157

badhq wrote:

SuB wrote:

lol he advertises that thread everywhere.. and he obviously didn't read your post.. since u already tried it...
have u tried a re-install?
maybe u just weren't destined to command? lol
is that the only advive you can give him? reinstall? nothing wrong with the game his just laggin so uninstalling would nbe BAD idea. And
No Obviesly I diden't read it. I'm sorry but I dont sit here and read every single post all the way trugh.

Peace Boris
well a nice re-install of bf2 does sort alot of problems.. i was only stating a fact that you throw your thread about alot no offence intended did u notice the 'lol'
if ya don't read the post all the way thru, then why post?

anyroad it doesn't seem like your average problem considering it only happens when he commands
system settings?


it seems you have a fanclub so whoever anonymousely karma'd me.. in his name... good job.. grow a penis

Last edited by SuB (2006-05-21 05:58:34)

2006-05-21 08:35:49
T4rd
Member
+44|7157|West Point, NY
Well I just re-installed to get Euro-Force to work cuz of the "modified content" bug.  That didn't change anything performance-wise.  My driver change made a slight difference as noted in a previous post.  What has been the best drivers for BF2 for people so far on the X850 XTs (and Platinum Editions, that's what mine is)?

Oh, and Boris, I am pretty good at keeping all my start-up apps managed and down to a minimum.  My biggest resource (memory) hog is my Symantec anti-virus and firewall.  But I still have plenty to go around with 2GBs (4x 512MB sticks in dual-channel mode) of Corsair DDR-400 (PC-3200) RAM.  But I do have a slight prob with my total processes going.  Right now I have 57 total processes in my task manager, haha.  I dunno how that'd effect my game only when I'm a commander though..?  I dont remember having this problem when I first started playing, so I know it can be fixed somehow.  Hmmm... that's got me thinking.  I turned my page-fileing off in XP thinking my might speed up my load times and stuff, which I think it did.  You think being commander might take more memory or something and may need me of have page fileing on?  Just a thought.

Here's my game settings; everthing on high, 100% view distance with 2x AA is how I play normally.  I can play with 6x AA without much diff but it totally kills my framerate while commander and it's borderline playable on 64 player maps with 64 players in the server.  So I should definitely be able to play on those settings without a problem and I refuse to turn my settings down since I know that this card is more than capable running those settings.  I honestly think the graphics engine on this game is shitty since I can run games like FEAR, HL2, Far Cry, and Doom 3 maxed out with 4x-6x AA and 8x-16x AF, and this game looks inferior to all of them and runs the worst... wtf?  I think with all these patches that have came out since the begining have made my performance drop too.  They should have ran this game on the Unreal 2 engine or something, it seems far superior.  I know that wasn't an option for EA though, just an opinion.

Well, I doubt most people have read this far, but thanks for those who have and I appreciate you all for what you've suggexted so far!  But I still need help and input from others!  Thanks again...

   -Help me out ATI users!!

Last edited by T4rd (2006-05-21 10:50:11)

2006-05-21 10:41:26
MajorHoulahan_MASH
Member
+31|7203

T4rd wrote:

Here's my game settings; everthing on high, 100% view distance with 2x AA is how I play normally.  I can play with 6x AA without much diff but it totally kills my framerate while commander and it's borderline playable on 64 player maps with 64 players in the server.  So I should definitely be able to play on those settings without a problem and I refuse to turn my settings down since I know that this card is more than capable running those settings.  I honestly think the graphics engine on this game is shitty since I can run games like FEAR, HL2, Far Cry, and Doom 3 maxed out with 4x-6x AA and 8x-16x AF, and this game looks inferior to all of them and runs the worst... wtf?  I think with all these patches that have came out since the begining have made my performace drop too.    -Help me out ATI users!!
Try  settings on medium, AA off , that should make an improvement in framerate.

And playing commander has definetely become more "sluggish"  since last patches, i agree on that one.
2006-05-21 10:45:07
SiMSaM16
Member
+48|7174|United States of America
When I zoom all the way in while in the commander screen I notice the same thing. So, I dont zoom all the way and I'm fine.
2006-05-21 10:45:39
Jack Bauer
WWJD - What Would Jack Do
+26|7035

badhq wrote:

Hi bro try looking at this thred

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=22556

See if it helps you ? :-)

Peace Boris
I performed those optimizations/tweaks and I can verify that I still have the same problem as initially reported in this thread.

*EDIT*
And he too said he did most of the things in the lag reduction thread! Shame on you for not reading his post or failing to see the connection.

Last edited by Jack Bauer (2006-05-21 10:47:39)

2006-05-21 11:03:24
137[CSi]
Headshot Specialist
+104|7318|Woodland Hills, Ca
Do you have a dual core processor? And also on top of that do you have an pATI video card

I know exactly what the fuck you're talking about.

I noticed when I was going for expert command and my distinguished service ribbon I would be in the command console and then notice a few bogeys in my area, and next thing I know its CHOPPY FRAME RATE CENTRAL...

It will more likely depend on your graphics card being ATI or NVIDIA as ATI has a problem with going from 2D to 3D to 2D to 3D where nvidia can do both, thats where ATI always has suffered.

I went from having a 7800gtx to an x1900xt and I've noticed about 30 minutes into commanding if I keep switching in and out of my command console it takes like 10 minutes for the jitters to go away.

Sometimes I have to alt tab to my desktop and then back into the videogame.

It may also have to do with having an overclocked videocard, try underclocking it. Or even if it gets super bad try taking the side of your computer case off and let the hot air out.

The ati cards seem to get really really hot and I already have quite a few 120mm fans running through my case as it is. I may eventually just switch over to watercooling so I dont have to listen to them hum anymore.

But its either from your ati card being forced to rended 2d to 3d to 2d. If you have AA on try to turn it off or lower.

I currently run the game in 1600x1200 with everything maxed so it obviously helps me a little bit.

Ever since I upgraded my operating system to windows xp professional 64 I havent had that issue anymore. Now its my stupid ass creative Xfi sound card turning off the mic after 20 minutes of gameplay.
2006-05-21 11:12:20
Jack Bauer
WWJD - What Would Jack Do
+26|7035

137[CSi] wrote:

Do you have a dual core processor? And also on top of that do you have an pATI video card

I know exactly what the fuck you're talking about.

I noticed when I was going for expert command and my distinguished service ribbon I would be in the command console and then notice a few bogeys in my area, and next thing I know its CHOPPY FRAME RATE CENTRAL...

It will more likely depend on your graphics card being ATI or NVIDIA as ATI has a problem with going from 2D to 3D to 2D to 3D where nvidia can do both, thats where ATI always has suffered.

I went from having a 7800gtx to an x1900xt and I've noticed about 30 minutes into commanding if I keep switching in and out of my command console it takes like 10 minutes for the jitters to go away.

Sometimes I have to alt tab to my desktop and then back into the videogame.

It may also have to do with having an overclocked videocard, try underclocking it. Or even if it gets super bad try taking the side of your computer case off and let the hot air out.

The ati cards seem to get really really hot and I already have quite a few 120mm fans running through my case as it is. I may eventually just switch over to watercooling so I dont have to listen to them hum anymore.

But its either from your ati card being forced to rended 2d to 3d to 2d. If you have AA on try to turn it off or lower.

I currently run the game in 1600x1200 with everything maxed so it obviously helps me a little bit.

Ever since I upgraded my operating system to windows xp professional 64 I havent had that issue anymore. Now its my stupid ass creative Xfi sound card turning off the mic after 20 minutes of gameplay.
'


No.. running a P4 3ghz, BFG6800GT OC, 2GB Ram
2006-05-21 11:18:42
Marconius
One-eyed Wonder Mod
+368|7175|San Francisco
Can definitely be just a cause of gameplay rather than hardware or video settings...
It happens to me all the time, especially when I've zoomed in 3x in the Commander Map and then return to my soldier view.  The game is then rendering two times the amount of information...what you are seeing through your soldier, and what the Command Map is seeing zoomed in at 3x, even though you aren't looking at that.

Just make sure you zoom out to 1x, and click on a spot in the map that isn't heavy with action before jumping back to soldier view.

It's really bad if you are zoomed in watching your arty come down on a squad in a firefight, then try to jump back to your own view to participate in another firefight.  Lag city in that instance.
2006-05-21 11:19:50
Jack Bauer
WWJD - What Would Jack Do
+26|7035

Marconius wrote:

Can definitely be just a cause of gameplay rather than hardware or video settings...
It happens to me all the time, especially when I've zoomed in 3x in the Commander Map and then return to my soldier view.  The game is then rendering two times the amount of information...what you are seeing through your soldier, and what the Command Map is seeing zoomed in at 3x, even though you aren't looking at that.

Just make sure you zoom out to 1x, and click on a spot in the map that isn't heavy with action before jumping back to soldier view.

It's really bad if you are zoomed in watching your arty come down on a squad in a firefight, then try to jump back to your own view to participate in another firefight.  Lag city in that instance.
I'll give it a try and let you know how it goes.  Thanks.
2006-05-21 16:03:56
T4rd
Member
+44|7157|West Point, NY

137[CSi] wrote:

Do you have a dual core processor? And also on top of that do you have an pATI video card
I dunno if you were talking to me or not, but as stated in my original post, I'm running a singe core Athlon 64 4000+.

137[CSi] wrote:

It may also have to do with having an overclocked videocard, try underclocking it. Or even if it gets super bad try taking the side of your computer case off and let the hot air out.

The ati cards seem to get really really hot and I already have quite a few 120mm fans running through my case as it is. I may eventually just switch over to watercooling so I dont have to listen to them hum anymore.
I have an aftermarket Zalman fan cooler on it and it never goes above 70. C now.  That's not too bad.  I dont have an overlclock on it.  That overdrive crap is garbage anyway in the CCC. 

I dunno about that 3D to 2D to 3D crap.  As I said before, I dont remember this game doin this until a few patches were released and I changed drivers along the way too.  So I dunno if I'm gonna be able to fix it with these patches. 

Ya know, I dont really notice the performance drop near as much in 2D mode, but when I exit out into my first person view, that's when my framerate takes the hit and from then afterwards.  Is this how you guys see it too?

Last edited by T4rd (2006-05-21 16:04:22)

2006-05-21 23:08:48
137[CSi]
Headshot Specialist
+104|7318|Woodland Hills, Ca
problem number one is the zalman cooler, they've been known to do worse in a closed case environment on the graphics cards. Do you know what model the cooler is? its not the new heat pipe round one right?
2006-05-22 02:25:04
T4rd
Member
+44|7157|West Point, NY

137[CSi] wrote:

problem number one is the zalman cooler, they've been known to do worse in a closed case environment on the graphics cards. Do you know what model the cooler is? its not the new heat pipe round one right?
Me and hundreds of people out there would seriously have to disagree with you on that.  I can tell you from personal expirience that this cooler has dropped my temps over 10 C. while at idle and under load.  With my stock cooler, my card would get up to 85 C. under load unless I put the fan on 100% with ATI Tray Tools.  Then my card fan was loud as hell and still only braught it down to like 78 C.  This Zalman VF700-CU 2 Ball VGA cooler is 5 times quieter and still dropped my temps my 10 - 15 C. all the way through my load range. 

Here it is on Newegg with an overall average rateing of 5/5 out of 891 votes:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6835118117

Last edited by T4rd (2006-05-22 02:29:34)

2006-05-27 02:03:00
T4rd
Member
+44|7157|West Point, NY
Well, even though people aren't replying to this thread anymore, it seems to have fixed itself after the 1.3 patch.  I really liked the improvments of this patch.  Esp. the vehical drops now that I can happily play as commander.  People were requesting them constantly at empty bases and I also dropped them in at bottlenecks so my soldiers could use them to mow down the enemy trying to push through.  But I just wanna say thanks to all you guys that responded to my call for help!  This forum continues to help and entertain me everyday, heh.  Thanks ALL!

 

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