Who said anything about nerfing the guns?kn0ckahh wrote:
whhheeeeee wheheeeeee i got shot with a bullet by someone with a GUN they should
lets go cry to EA bet they want to patch it
Nobody. Another case of Nyte Syndrome.usmarine2005 wrote:
Who said anything about nerfing the guns?kn0ckahh wrote:
whhheeeeee wheheeeeee i got shot with a bullet by someone with a GUN they should
lets go cry to EA bet they want to patch it
Not ANOTHER sniper thread. Oh God, make it stop!
"If you want a vision of the future, imagine SecuROM slapping your face with its dick -- forever." -George Orwell
Umm.kn0ckahh wrote:
whhheeeeee wheheeeeee i got shot with a bullet by someone with a GUN they should
lets go cry to EA bet they want to patch it
I have a suggestion. Lets all pester chuy to have an option where if enough people decide some plank hasn't read the fscking thread at all, he can be banned from posting anything for a week.
Example above.
Nyte Syndrome? No need to explain, I don't want to know.k30dxedle wrote:
Nobody. Another case of Nyte Syndrome.usmarine2005 wrote:
Who said anything about nerfing the guns?kn0ckahh wrote:
whhheeeeee wheheeeeee i got shot with a bullet by someone with a GUN they should
lets go cry to EA bet they want to patch it
Foxhoundmgw wrote:
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1) View distance 100. I can see just as far as you boyo. So what if I can't quite make out that prone Support guy mowing down our troops? Thats your job, as a sniper, to put that c*nt down. A Humvee/Vodnik/fscking ice cream truck however, is a somewhat bigger target. I think I can see that at long range, even with my less than 20/20 vision. Oh wait, my Eryx/SRAW can even spot that prone Support guy. Looks like I can do your job there...
2) And claymores don't do shit to a tank. So shall we discount the 'snipers are great at defending flags with claymores' line? Someone else has kit that serves the same purpose, but on a bigger fish, and you ain't singing their praises.
3) Sniper on a rooftop, UAV, guy on a ladder, guy behind sniper/squad leader. guy[knife]sniper. oops. wheres your spawn point gone?
It's not about me not thinking things through mate. It's about yourselves saying 'we pwn so hard' without a thought about how others do too.
Like I already said,you didn't think this through...
1) So,you are telling me that you can actually effectively spot infantry on view distances of about 300-350 meters?
B*llshit,you can't even see them!!!
You just wish you could do that job...
2) Did you read what I posted?
AT mines do not blow up infantry!!!
Your engineer can't do sh*t against a rushing infantry squad which wants to take a flag except going berzerk with his shotty,bad idea against a trained squad with a precise sniper or counterstrike-hardened assault-guy.
Sure,the tank just rolls on and laughs about claymores,but a tank is not on a sniper's list of prey.
Claymores for flagdefence is totally effective and the fact that nearly everybody who regularly assaults and takes flags hates claymores is just proof for that.
3) So what makes your other f*cking classes different in this situation?Who said the sniper has to be on a roof?
You should probably try to be a sniper and squadleader to learn the advantages of it,it's amazing how useful a sniper can be to a rushing squad,every chest hit you give the enemy is a sure kill for your buddy at the front,a headshot is one enemy less to stand in their way,etc...
Give it a try and maybe then you can post a proper opinion about this.
And nobody ever said that snipers "pwn so hard",at least not me.
But being a sniper all the time is kind of annoying when the tankwhores and jetpilots rack up all the kills before you can get them(kinda like in Jarhead,you got them in your scope and then the bombers come in).
People who achieve good stats and round scores with only a bolt-action rifle and a few explosives when everybody else is packing assault rifles and even kill each other for a seat in a chopper or tank eventually become a bit proud of their odd methods.
And of course these people are offended when somebody who hasn't put any comparable effort into effectively using the sniper class just thoughtlessly bashes a kind of warfare he doesn't even closely understand like the practitioners of this technique do.
It's not us (snipers) who say "we pwn so hard",it's you who says that snipers suck and you blatantly try to "prove" this at any cost....
All classes have their advantages and drawbacks in some situations,that's the old "scissors-paper-rock"-idea behind Battlefield,it has been like that since BF1942.
But saying that the sniper class sucks and every other class could perform their (sniper-specific) tasks just because it bothers you that most snipers behave like little primadonnas when it comes to their skills (Nyte anyone?) and maybe even because you got headshot or claymored too often in some rounds is just immature..
Today 20:08:18 -1 Quit Bashing The Snipers!!! Bitch. I got the balls to sign with my name = Cruz4dr
Awww. So cute.
But, theres no reason stated for a -1 karma, you didn't actually have anything to say did you?
You just thought that your little snipe and a -1 would ruin my day. Shame it failed.
Now go find a girl or boy, (your sexual preference is as ambiguous as your reasons for karma) drunk enough to go to bed with you.
Awww. So cute.
But, theres no reason stated for a -1 karma, you didn't actually have anything to say did you?
You just thought that your little snipe and a -1 would ruin my day. Shame it failed.
Now go find a girl or boy, (your sexual preference is as ambiguous as your reasons for karma) drunk enough to go to bed with you.
i can spot units at that range quite easily.Mj.Blindfisch wrote:
Foxhoundmgw wrote:
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1) View distance 100. I can see just as far as you boyo. So what if I can't quite make out that prone Support guy mowing down our troops? Thats your job, as a sniper, to put that c*nt down. A Humvee/Vodnik/fscking ice cream truck however, is a somewhat bigger target. I think I can see that at long range, even with my less than 20/20 vision. Oh wait, my Eryx/SRAW can even spot that prone Support guy. Looks like I can do your job there...
2) And claymores don't do shit to a tank. So shall we discount the 'snipers are great at defending flags with claymores' line? Someone else has kit that serves the same purpose, but on a bigger fish, and you ain't singing their praises.
3) Sniper on a rooftop, UAV, guy on a ladder, guy behind sniper/squad leader. guy[knife]sniper. oops. wheres your spawn point gone?
It's not about me not thinking things through mate. It's about yourselves saying 'we pwn so hard' without a thought about how others do too.
Like I already said,you didn't think this through...
1) So,you are telling me that you can actually effectively spot infantry on view distances of about 300-350 meters?
B*llshit,you can't even see them!!!
You just wish you could do that job...
Sonny, maybe you need to learn to fscking read.Mj.Blindfisch wrote:
Foxhoundmgw wrote:
3) Sniper on a rooftop, UAV, guy on a ladder, guy behind sniper/squad leader. guy[knife]sniper. oops. wheres your spawn point gone?
It's not about me not thinking things through mate. It's about yourselves saying 'we pwn so hard' without a thought about how others do too.
Like I already said,you didn't think this through...
1) So,you are telling me that you can actually effectively spot infantry on view distances of about 300-350 meters?
B*llshit,you can't even see them!!!
You just wish you could do that job...
2) Did you read what I posted?
AT mines do not blow up infantry!!!
Your engineer can't do sh*t against a rushing infantry squad which wants to take a flag except going berzerk with his shotty,bad idea against a trained squad with a precise sniper or counterstrike-hardened assault-guy.
Sure,the tank just rolls on and laughs about claymores,but a tank is not on a sniper's list of prey.
Claymores for flagdefence is totally effective and the fact that nearly everybody who regularly assaults and takes flags hates claymores is just proof for that.
3) So what makes your other f*cking classes different in this situation?Who said the sniper has to be on a roof?
You should probably try to be a sniper and squadleader to learn the advantages of it,it's amazing how useful a sniper can be to a rushing squad,every chest hit you give the enemy is a sure kill for your buddy at the front,a headshot is one enemy less to stand in their way,etc...
Give it a try and maybe then you can post a proper opinion about this.
And nobody ever said that snipers "pwn so hard",at least not me.
But being a sniper all the time is kind of annoying when the tankwhores and jetpilots rack up all the kills before you can get them(kinda like in Jarhead,you got them in your scope and then the bombers come in).
People who achieve good stats and round scores with only a bolt-action rifle and a few explosives when everybody else is packing assault rifles and even kill each other for a seat in a chopper or tank eventually become a bit proud of their odd methods.
And of course these people are offended when somebody who hasn't put any comparable effort into effectively using the sniper class just thoughtlessly bashes a kind of warfare he doesn't even closely understand like the practitioners of this technique do.
It's not us (snipers) who say "we pwn so hard",it's you who says that snipers suck and you blatantly try to "prove" this at any cost....
All classes have their advantages and drawbacks in some situations,that's the old "scissors-paper-rock"-idea behind Battlefield,it has been like that since BF1942.
But saying that the sniper class sucks and every other class could perform their (sniper-specific) tasks just because it bothers you that most snipers behave like little primadonnas when it comes to their skills (Nyte anyone?) and maybe even because you got headshot or claymored too often in some rounds is just immature..
I never said I could spot infantry without an effective scope, but even as a fscking sillhouette I can see a bloody car/van/tank. Hell, as long as I have a good idea where infantry is and mouse over slow enough to get their name to light up, I can call a target BLIND. But for infantry you call better. The original post regarded VEHICLES.
Clays do naff all to armour, AT mines do naff all to infantry. So the winner of this little argument is the Spec Ops guy who stayed alive long enough to detonate. Sniper and Engie both lose.
The rest of your post really isn't worth my time, untill we get to the point you 'call me out' for saying Snipers suck. Read the post where I said what I think snipers excel at? No, you didn't bother, you think I'm flaming snipers and thats all you care about.
Me you non-thread reading nublet wrote:
I think snipers as a whole get crap (as opposed to being told you don't suck/rock more or less than other kits) because a lot of them can't storm even if it's needed.
As a gent further up posted, a lot of times a Sniper is the last person left on a map if you are losing hard.
You see the poor sod amble around for about 2 minutes, trying to get somewhere he can take a flag, and then gets hunted down and killed.
A more experienced sniper may start moving before he's the last one left, to either support a cap, or start his own, with defensive clays placed, if he's kept hold of them/resupplied.
You call me immature for saying that the primadonna post was a primadonna post. Yet you act like a complete child over it. I can't really do anything but laugh about it, or I fear I'd be taking this as seriously as you, and that would be kinda sad.me again wrote:
Snipers cover arse like no other. But your other reasons for sniper loving are nothing other kits can't match.
So how about, in future, you read a fscking thread before tarring someone as a hater of your love love kit.
I like sniper, it's just not top of my list to go expert with right now.
Where is that any different to 'you don't suck or rock any more or any less than other kits'?you wrote:
All classes have their advantages and drawbacks in some situations,that's the old "scissors-paper-rock"-idea behind Battlefield,it has been like that since BF1942.
Face it, at the end of the thread, you'll be a redfaced plank who jumped the gun.
wow you are fuckin retarded arent you ... they are for personnel defense they guard your back while you snipe137twozerosniper wrote:
WAT ELSE ARE U GONNA USE EM FOR? its not like ur gonna put it in water and hope for a kill FFSafrocullions wrote:
clays for flag defense is pure faggotry
only after the patch took off the friendly fire did morons start using them for flag defense
nah, i think the original poster was totally correct in what he said. then again, i am a sniper-fan myselfusmarine2005 wrote:
No.
PS - Take your karma message and shove it sideways your your fat ass you no name pussy.
The reason I play sniper.....it is the easiest thing to do.
since patch 1.3 snipers got a role, you won't believe it. they can shoot down the squadleader when identified so nobody can spawn anymore, but every kit can do so. but whatever a sniper can do, he is exchangeable. I shoot down snipers from cranes with my pistol. long distance shots are possible with almost every kit. a can prevent players to get there and there with c4 (without teamkilling, yes). it's fun to play as sniper because you dont die that often. but really useful? anybody said that 2 snipers can decide a round. you dont really believe that, do you?
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no offense, its ok to have snipers in team, but 15 of 64 is defenitely too much. and that often happens.
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no offense, its ok to have snipers in team, but 15 of 64 is defenitely too much. and that often happens.
Last edited by xaven (2006-05-26 13:06:16)
dont u hate it when fags dont leave their names at ends of -1 karma
What you got a score of 120 in 'not very long'?! Fool, dont go on the padding servers!!REDRAGON12345 wrote:
Lol I Was Not On That Sever For Long If You Check Again>.... I Was Trying To Tell Them That I Whould Reset Their Stats For Being On A Knife And Pistol Sever But Then They Banned Me So No I Was Not Statspadding Fools!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
basiclally every kit on the game his strentghs and weaknesses right? given a certain situation and a certain player a sniper can pick of entire squads. my stats prove this on karkand my favourite map by a long way but is the map where people say the sniper rifle is useless but my k/d with a sniper rifle is higher than most peoples overall k/d ratio proving that a sniper can i repeat can own a server. but if your mec and down to the last flag and the usmc have captured the factory(so have 2 tanks and 4 apc's) you obviously dont be a sniper. its the people that persist on being sniper during these times that give good snipers like me and ss and tahdar and evilmonkey a bad name
Foxhoundmgw wrote:
..yada..yada...yada...
Face it, at the end of the thread, you'll be a redfaced plank who jumped the gun.
Yeah,I guess you are right.
I'm glad that I could help you to boost your ego by giving you the opportunity to sensibly and eloquently dissect my moronic posts,boyo,seems I've picked on an adversary which is obviously not my size.
It was very disrespectful of me to question your indisputable wisdom of virtually everything and maybe I even should apologize to you.....but on second thought I rather just don't give a flying f*ck about you and what you say.
And Sonny , at the end of the thread I won't even remember which smartass had which opinion and even care less about this.....
Have a nice day!
All i am saying is that most people that play BF2 right away think the sniper is useless but if you use it right it helps the team ALOT!!!!!
You shouldn't bother writing sensible and though out posts like that when they just get ignored =\ Nicely put thoughMj.Blindfisch wrote:
Yeah,I guess you are right.
I'm glad that I could help you to boost your ego by giving you the opportunity to sensibly and eloquently dissect my moronic posts,boyo,seems I've picked on an adversary which is obviously not my size.
It was very disrespectful of me to question your indisputable wisdom of virtually everything and maybe I even should apologize to you.....but on second thought I rather just don't give a flying f*ck about you and what you say.
And Sonny , at the end of the thread I won't even remember which smartass had which opinion and even care less about this.....
Have a nice day!
Last edited by SargeV1.4 (2006-05-26 13:13:17)
As I got told that I haven't played the kit enough because I don't join the sniper chorus of 'we are the best' I can only suggest that most of you actually put more than (as an example) 25 hours into your 'second best kit' before saying other people are wrong.
Failing that, you could just accept the recurring statement, all the kits have strong points and weak points, a clueless plank will emphasize the weak, and an experienced/skilled player will emphasize the strong.
I do still however find it funny that people just turn around and say 'you haven't played x kit as long as me, you don't know shit', it's not like we'll have had squadmates using that kit, or fought against people using that kit, no, never, not a chance.
If there is one thing I've conclusively learned today about players of the sniper kit, and I've decided to stop trying to be agreeable about it, most of you don't give a shit about anyone elses opinion about 'your' kit or any other, no matter how much playtime they have under their belts, unless it's 100% the same as yours, and that most of you cry a lot when people paint a picture of any sniper, that doesn't show them as the heroic gods of the battlefield, choosing who lives and dies. Of course, a sniper never needs healing, or ammo, or the support of any other kit. Because they are that damn good.
And if you don't take kindly to that opinion, remember something, it's not that I think the sniper kit sucks, it's the players personality. Cry me a river.
Failing that, you could just accept the recurring statement, all the kits have strong points and weak points, a clueless plank will emphasize the weak, and an experienced/skilled player will emphasize the strong.
I do still however find it funny that people just turn around and say 'you haven't played x kit as long as me, you don't know shit', it's not like we'll have had squadmates using that kit, or fought against people using that kit, no, never, not a chance.
If there is one thing I've conclusively learned today about players of the sniper kit, and I've decided to stop trying to be agreeable about it, most of you don't give a shit about anyone elses opinion about 'your' kit or any other, no matter how much playtime they have under their belts, unless it's 100% the same as yours, and that most of you cry a lot when people paint a picture of any sniper, that doesn't show them as the heroic gods of the battlefield, choosing who lives and dies. Of course, a sniper never needs healing, or ammo, or the support of any other kit. Because they are that damn good.
And if you don't take kindly to that opinion, remember something, it's not that I think the sniper kit sucks, it's the players personality. Cry me a river.
I mainly play as a Sniper (Depends on the team situation) and my W/L is higher than 90% of the people posting in here.
Hell, even my SPM is higher than most medics and support kits.
Not to mention my KPM destroys EVERY single person posting in this thread.
You people have fun worrying about your KDR, I'll go on and win the round with 30-10 while you lose with your awesome 15-0.
Owned?
Hell, even my SPM is higher than most medics and support kits.
Not to mention my KPM destroys EVERY single person posting in this thread.
You people have fun worrying about your KDR, I'll go on and win the round with 30-10 while you lose with your awesome 15-0.
Owned?
Alpha as fuck.
^^^^^^^^^^^ See what you guys did ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Nyte wrote:
I mainly play as a Sniper (Depends on the team situation) and my W/L is higher than 90% of the people posting in here.
Hell, even my SPM is higher than most medics and support kits.
Not to mention my KPM destroys EVERY single person posting in this thread.
You people have fun worrying about your KDR, I'll go on and win the round with 30-10 while you lose with your awesome 15-0.
Owned?
Hi fanboySargeV1.4 wrote:
You shouldn't bother writing sensible and though out posts like that when they just get ignored =\ Nicely put though
Stating that AT Mines don't kill infantry.
Having it stated that Claymores don't kill Tanks
Stating that AT Mines don't kill infantry instead of accepting that the 2 kits do a similar task of defending flags but against different targets. Yeah, that's sensible and thought out.
Slagging someone off for saying your most loved kit sucks, when they never once said your much loved kit sucks. Also dead sensible and well thought out.
I think my previous post that way too many Snipers are Primadonnas, as quoted by your most sensible and well thinking posterbuddy, was dead on.
Nah, not owned at all to be honest.Nyte wrote:
I mainly play as a Sniper (Depends on the team situation) and my W/L is higher than 90% of the people posting in here.
Hell, even my SPM is higher than most medics and support kits.
Not to mention my KPM destroys EVERY single person posting in this thread.
You people have fun worrying about your KDR, I'll go on and win the round with 30-10 while you lose with your awesome 15-0.
Owned?
Tahadar has more time as Sniper than you. You own him on those stats.
Mj.Blindfisch has more time as Sniper than you. You own him on those stats.
Sarge doesn't list his stats so I can't tell for him.
Red Dragon (thread starter) has more time as support than sniper, but I didn't find people telling him to play Sniper for longer before he stated things as fact =P
You just lend strength to the fact that yes, Sniper may be fun and cool and supah!!!111one, but the deciding factor is the player. And as shown, some snipers can be cool, and some can be twats, and thats where the grief probably comes from, not that snipers suck.
Last edited by Foxhoundmgw (2006-05-26 13:30:14)
you mean you are the reason for the win? well, I havent played against you. and I do not doubt your skill. when you run araound taking flags as a sniper and hit down people, ok. but most snipers lay on the predicted places and are easy targets or stay stand in front of you and try to place the clay while going down. well, sometimes I got hit by a sniper, but that doesnt prevent my to take the flag in a second attempt, because they never change their position.Nyte wrote:
I mainly play as a Sniper (Depends on the team situation) and my W/L is higher than 90% of the people posting in here.
Hell, even my SPM is higher than most medics and support kits.
Not to mention my KPM destroys EVERY single person posting in this thread.
You people have fun worrying about your KDR, I'll go on and win the round with 30-10 while you lose with your awesome 15-0.
Owned?
Sniping is for noobs. If you need to stay 200m away and be hiding to get kills your not good. The best thing snipers do is get knifed while they are lookin down the scope.
"You mean you are the reason for the win?"xaven wrote:
you mean you are the reason for the win? well, I havent played against you. and I do not doubt your skill. when you run araound taking flags as a sniper and hit down people, ok. but most snipers lay on the predicted places and are easy targets or stay stand in front of you and try to place the clay while going down. well, sometimes I got hit by a sniper, but that doesnt prevent my to take the flag in a second attempt, because they never change their position.Nyte wrote:
I mainly play as a Sniper (Depends on the team situation) and my W/L is higher than 90% of the people posting in here.
Hell, even my SPM is higher than most medics and support kits.
Not to mention my KPM destroys EVERY single person posting in this thread.
You people have fun worrying about your KDR, I'll go on and win the round with 30-10 while you lose with your awesome 15-0.
Owned?
I don't want to sound boastful but yes, I am the reason for the win.
Alpha as fuck.