theDude5B
Cool member
+805|7232
Firstly:

the issue of base raping. Now i was playing Sharqi yesterday and managed to get into the MEC chopper without anyone t'king me in the process. I had this guy get in the gunners seat and it turned out that he was a really good gunner, so we then continued to kick ass out of the USMC. We started off by heading for the TV station to take out the enemy chopper as is the way on Sharqi. now while we were there we killed many USMC and then our team mates captured the flag there.
After this we then hovered about the different flags while our team mates captured them, killing many enemy while doing so.

The USMC then took back the TV station, so we then went back there to take out the chopper and kill anyone we saw. after a while, some of the USMC guys started to call my gunner a spawn raper. we just laughed it off cause to me we are not spawn raping because while we were killing the enemy, our team mates were taking the flag.

So do you consider it bad to attack the TV station and take out the enemy chopper? The flag is a cappable flag, so why do some people think that it is spawn raping?

Secondly:

I only really acknowledged the effectiveness of the attack chopper the other day. I have never really bothered using it much but in the past few weeks have become a good pilot. I was playing a wake island map the other day, and hopped into the China chopper with another good gunner. We then hovered around the bases while our team mates monitored the different parts of the map. Everytime some USMC troops managed to get on land, our commander would spot them and myself and the gunner would fly to their location and take them out. I made sure to stay away from any danger so that i would not be shot down. This went on for a good while with the USMC not getting anywhere, then a was crashed into by the enemy plane.
I went back to get the chopper and there were some other guys waiting for it, so i tried to get back in but one of them got the pilot seat and my gunner got in. they then crashed 5 seconds after this. next time i tried to get in, the enemy commander hit us with artillery, then a jet came and shot the heli before it even took off.
By this time the USMC had managed to get onto the land and capture a couple of flags. they then managed to put up a good fight but in the end lost.

So i noticed that myself and the gunner had stopped the USMC getting control of the game, but then some eegit stopped us from continuing to do this by forcing his way into the chopper when he didnt know what he was doing and could have cost us the round.

sorry for being so long
DECEPTION_POINT
Banned
+17|7148|newcastle , N.S.W , Australia
firstly i agree its not spawn camping its laying down fire in order to help u get the flag

secondly all ways use the attack chopper when possible

i just wanted to say some thing

Last edited by DECEPTION_POINT (2006-05-30 02:51:47)

polarbearz
Raiders of the Lost Bear
+-1,474|7270|Singapore

Ok captain obvious

No offence really, but what's new?

And I don't get your sig.
1927
The oldest chav in the world
+2,423|7155|Cardiff, Capital of Wales
sorry for being so long

I wished you'd put that at the top not the bottom.
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7198|Riva, MD
I once got kicked because my pilot kept taking me back to the enemy helipad on Sharqi and each time I launched a missile into the middle of the glass between the pilot and gunner while it was full, blowing up the helicopter.  So they kicked me for spawnraping, lol.
masculata
Member
+24|7158|45° 30',North by 73° 35',West
+1 for Red Dwarf
theDude5B
Cool member
+805|7232

polarbearz wrote:

Ok captain obvious

No offence really, but what's new?

And I don't get your sig.
my sig? it is a quote from Red Dwarf - a great Brittish comedy from the 90's
FCity|BuBuBaer
Member
+19|7129|127.0.0.1

theDude5B wrote:

Now i was playing Sharqi yesterday and managed to get into the MEC chopper without anyone t'king me in the process.
You're a lucky one - thats my biggest prob atm - teamkillers for choppers etc
theDude5B
Cool member
+805|7232

FCity|BuBuBaer wrote:

theDude5B wrote:

Now i was playing Sharqi yesterday and managed to get into the MEC chopper without anyone t'king me in the process.
You're a lucky one - thats my biggest prob atm - teamkillers for choppers etc
i have noticed that a shed load of this goes on in most EA UK servers. especially the 64 player ones when obviously there are more players and then more players wanting the chopper. i done bother if they are all trying to get in. sometimes i am just lucky to join a server when no one seems to want the chopper and then i take my chances.
whilsky
FUBAR
+129|7049|Bristol UK
spawnraping, na , i was playing wake last night on a euro server with the obvious tags no spawn raping uncaps, guess what i was usmc, not a major problem its a bit more difficult but the pla commander kept artying the essex and there aicraft just kept raping the deck, and i was one of the first on the carrier/map other than pla, they seemed to spawn way before us as when me and my mates made our way to the blackhawk they had already been blown up, we got major pwn'd. and the essex is an uncap.
Just thought i would add that as a definition to spawn raping at uncaps
Sgt_Bob05
Nade Spammers Must Die
+49|7183|Australia
For the second part about chopper being good and only using it for a brief time i think you've just had good luck. Hover over flag = death by tank or plane. You obviously have come across a good pilot yet because they will take you out with 1 fly by with the cannon.

For the first part the only thing that really counts as spawn raping for me is using vehicles in uncap zone
Delphy
Member
+45|7066|Bristol, UK
Yep, attack choppers are game-breaking in the right hands.
theDude5B
Cool member
+805|7232

Sgt_Bob05 wrote:

For the second part about chopper being good and only using it for a brief time i think you've just had good luck. Hover over flag = death by tank or plane. You obviously have come across a good pilot yet because they will take you out with 1 fly by with the cannon.

For the first part the only thing that really counts as spawn raping for me is using vehicles in uncap zone
wasnt literally hovering above the same flag, was hovering around the map. Also, there were no enemy tanks cause they could not get on the island. Their plane pilots were mince though and our planes were taking care of them.
voltage
Member
+46|7322|Sweden
IMO:
spawn camping: attacking a CP without trying to take it
base raping: attacking an uncappable.

"Spawn raping"? Sounds like an attempt to make the former mean the same as latter.

There's a major difference, on many servers baseraping is not allowed, but I've never heard of a server where spawn camping is not allowed. Many players that will complain about baseraping have no issues with spawn camping, it's the symbol on the map that makes the difference. Perhaps uncap raping is a better term...
thedoo2
Eluded Fate
+20|7026|Texas
I just try to play the damn game and have fun.  Some people take it a tad too far, and start bitching and moaning about everything.  It's a game......isn't it???
Cbass
Kick His Ass!
+371|7175|Howell, Mi USA
First of all there is no such thing as baserapeing/spawnrapeing. second if they got their chopper off the ground they would do the exact same thing to u. if someone calls someone else a baseraper it's because they are mad about getting pwned and not doing the pwning. have u ever heard someone say "we should stop rapeing them"  i doubt it.

third, yes attack choppers rock
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Polux
H@x ?? No, just skill baby !
+73|7129|I smell corners
I am a Admin on a 24/7 sharqui server, so i see a lot of MEC helicopter crews just flying around the TV station and killing the guys who spawn to get the US chopper. And their is no team taking the flag while they do that, some people are gonna say it's a good tactic, so they cant get the US heli in the air put no i consider that as lame spawn raping to get some easy points (get's a KICK on our server).

You said that a team was capping the flag so for me it's normal you help them, so no spawn raping.

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Last edited by Polux (2006-05-30 08:44:55)

-=|BW|=-Hollow_Moon
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+5|7236

theDude5B wrote:

polarbearz wrote:

Ok captain obvious

No offence really, but what's new?

And I don't get your sig.
my sig? it is a quote from Red Dwarf - a great Brittish comedy from the 90's
You dont need to explain your self if your one of the boys from the Dwarf, keep on diddling
Speelbal
Member
+146|7233|Netherlands
Good you got that off your chest.
theDude5B
Cool member
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Speelbal wrote:

Good you got that off your chest.
well thanks man. thought i just had to say something, also i was bored at the time! cant believe someone gave me a -1 for it though! maybe they just dont like Red Dwarf!
E7IX3R
is drunk and crazy
+216|7169|UK
There is no such thing as "base raping" or "spawn raping"

It's made up by cry babies who don't have the brains to spawn elsewhere or do something about their problem.

I hate the way most people expect a "chance", I don't know about you, but I'm trying to win here and I'll do whatever it takes.

People complain on maps such as Cleansweep that the MEC bombers base rape - STOP THE BASERAPING!!! ADMIN!!! !!!

what are the bombers supposed to do? fly around doing nothing whilst USMC caps a flag? I don't think so.

Sharqi - Are the MEC/USMC just gonna let the enemy chopper run riot, costing us tickets? When I get the chance, I make sure it doesnt leave the ground - Denying the enemy their assets that can effectively win a round is important in the winning of a round for your team.

Last edited by E7IX3R (2006-05-30 10:31:22)

Speelbal
Member
+146|7233|Netherlands
Well about the baserape. If you join a server where there's a rule saying: No baserape. Follow that rule. IF not, happy raping.

Just be a gentleman. But remember, it's war. So fight a gentlemen's war.
Cbass
Kick His Ass!
+371|7175|Howell, Mi USA

E7IX3R wrote:

There is no such thing as "base raping" or "spawn raping"

It's made up by cry babies who don't have the brains to spawn elsewhere or do something about their problem.

I hate the way most people expect a "chance", I don't know about you, but I'm trying to win here and I'll do whatever it takes.

People complain on maps such as Cleansweep that the MEC bombers base rape - STOP THE BASERAPING!!! ADMIN!!! !!!

what are the bombers supposed to do? fly around doing nothing whilst USMC caps a flag? I don't think so.

Sharqi - Are the MEC/USMC just gonna let the enemy chopper run riot, costing us tickets? When I get the chance, I make sure it doesnt leave the ground - Denying the enemy their assets that can effectively win a round is important in the winning of a round for your team.
I hate when people bitch about that. I just try to make the best of it.

Yesterday i was playing Spetz on Ghost Town and SAS had every flag on the map and were "baseraping" my team to all hell. i didn't say one thing, i simply spawned as a sniper and ran off to the side of our base for some headshot fun Even though my team got totally pwnerized i managed to finish 24 kills and 10 deaths. Thats dealing with it.
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warco3
Member
+1|7210|Orlando, FL
Hey Polux, I'll make sure to stay away from your lame server. I'm sorry, the TV station flag in Sharqi has TWO spawn points. Nobody is FORCING you to spawn on the roof and get raped by the MEC chopper. Use your freakin brain and spawn down below and find a way to take the chopper out. Simple as that. The stupid spawn/base raping rule on servers is made by people who are just lazy and don't want to work for thier points, or thier team. Grow some balls and learn to stop the rapers.

I love it when jetwhores basecamp while thier team doesn't have a flag. It secures the victory for my team. I almost always manage to get up in the air and pay them back anyway.
Nathor
Member
+0|7164
I don't tend to get upset about baseraping, I simply see it as a bit of a failure by EA to make it so that Uncaps (such as the essex) are so difficult to defend. On Wake or Dragon Valley, if the MEC/Chineese team are on their game, there's no way to get off the boat/island easily while being "raped" on the carrier because the combo of Air Power, Arty and a few ground based snipers/armour/infantry make it almost impossible to get off the boat.

However, teams only get that way in the first place by showing poor teamwork and/or poor team balance.

Just my 2cents.

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