_The.Don_05
Im super serial
+58|7065|England
OK so promotion is near and with that comes the question of what weapons to unlock (Oh no i hear cry, not another one of those useless threads)

So the weapons i don't yet have are the Mp7, P90, jackhammer and the MG36. So i was going to go for the jackhammer and the MP7, although i hate shotguns i just needed the jackhammer to unlock MP7.

I had not really thought about getting the MG36 because of the insaneness of the PKM but with every patch the PKM is getting worse so that makes the MG36 a worthwhile unlock.

So i got the weapons test mod and tried them all out, i used both the P90 and the MP7 and it seemed that the MP7 had a faster rate of fire but looking on Ubar it states that they are both the same so is it just the sound that makes it seem faster?

Anyone that has used/ unlocked these weapons what do you think?
P90's sound clip is slower, but the gun in the game (and in real life) is actually VERY fast firing. Unlock it on single player, shoot, and as you shoot look at your ammo on the bottom right, you'll see what I mean.

I'd unlock the P90...it's alot better and has a great ironsight, with good close range combat and decent mid-ranged firing.
Drykill
I Like Waffles.
+47|7174|England
P90 is better for killing people but I still prefer the MP7
travisb05
bullseye (+)
+58|7180|U.S
Mp7 has iron sight and p90 has the red dot scope. the MP7 is way more accurate in my thought it looks cool too.
bulletsinurface
teh 1337 SuXorR
+27|7114|Canada Ontario
i don't have the p-90 just i love to pick it up, imo i wish i had of picked it
_The.Don_05
Im super serial
+58|7065|England

Drykill wrote:

P90 is better for killing people but I still prefer the MP7
Lol that exactly what i think, although i think the AT class is more useful in my game play i still love shooting the Mp7.

Thanks for the replies so far guys, Karma For all!
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7325|Reykjavík, Iceland.
I don't have the P-90, never picked it up for more than 3 seconds . But the MP-7 really gives the Engineer something at long range.
whilsky
FUBAR
+129|7049|Bristol UK
Definatly would go for the mp7, and i dont do that bad i get quite a few kills with it, as everyone else stated the rof is crazy and you can take on medium range targets
Aries_37
arrivederci frog
+368|7057|London
I say go for the mp7, then forget about firing in bursts because that gun has crazy accuracy.
tvmissleman
The Cereal Killer
+201|7140| United States of America

TheCanadianTerrorist wrote:

P90's sound clip is slower, but the gun in the game (and in real life) is actually VERY fast firing. Unlock it on single player, shoot, and as you shoot look at your ammo on the bottom right, you'll see what I mean.

I'd unlock the P90...it's alot better and has a great ironsight, with good close range combat and decent mid-ranged firing.
how do u unlock it on single player?
Zeon.
l33t sp33k Specialist
+159|7039|Behind j00OMFG HAX, Bristol UK
I think P90 is shit tbh lol. I've unlocked it but I dont ever use it, PP-19 is much better single shot on iron sight... Plus the MP5 is alot better than it... But because its 2 different classes its hard to judge between the 2 but i'd go for MP7
alpinestar
Member
+304|7078|New York City baby.
go p90 with mp7 you have no distance shots what so ever don't listen to newbs,
p90 = laser sight scope
mp7 = low accuracy sight
you will have most success when using it in single shot

Last edited by alpinestar (2006-05-31 06:44:57)

_The.Don_05
Im super serial
+58|7065|England
I do like the Mp7 but  as i stated id have to unlock the jackhammer to get it (which am i sure i will never use).

Where as if i get the P90 i could get the MG36 as well as i already have the DAO.
whilsky
FUBAR
+129|7049|Bristol UK
The MG36 is ok but at the mo the pkm is still pritty good (noobish i know but ha it is war), the jackhammer i never use as its to quick, the mec sk12 is better, but from what your saying the p90 is probably going to be the one as its got a bigger mag than the mp5, but i love the mp5, i get some really good kill with that.
but dont bother with the mg36 just yet im not saying its bad but the m249 is about the same.
Sambuccashake
Member
+126|7092|Sweden
The MP7 has let me down pretty much everytime I've used it and most of my kills with it are made at a distance where I would have done just as well with the shotties.

The MG36 is great but I prefer the PKM because of it's strength in the damage department.

I have never tried the P90 but I've noticed a few kills with it in the top left corner.

If I were you I'd pick the P90 and MG36.

Good luck!
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7188|67.222.138.85
Everyone should note that if you haven't played with the P-90 post 1.3 then you don't know the full story. They had to have upped the ROF from 900 to 1200 or something, because now it empties rounds like no other, even faster than the mp-7 I think. I really like the P-90, but in your situation I'd probably get the Mp-7 because AT already has a solid unlock with the DAO-12 and unless you like or even have the option of using a pump shotty then engie needs a better option.
DrM
Member
+33|7103
On paper the P90 is basically exactly the same as the MP7.
Every one has said about the zoomed view. Thats a choice that only you can make [most like the red dot, I like the iron sight].

According to the BF2S Wiki http://wiki.bf2s.com/weapons/comparison  the MG36 has very little accuracy benefit over the PKM and a lot less power.

What I would say is that if you did go with the MP7 you would give the engineer class the option of an automatic mid range weapon.


I hope you feel good about what ever choice you make!

DrM

Last edited by DrM (2006-05-31 10:11:47)

Erwin_Rommel188
Member
+59|7167|Seattle

TheCanadianTerrorist wrote:

P90's sound clip is slower, but the gun in the game (and in real life) is actually VERY fast firing. Unlock it on single player, shoot, and as you shoot look at your ammo on the bottom right, you'll see what I mean.

I'd unlock the P90...it's alot better and has a great ironsight, with good close range combat and decent mid-ranged firing.
Actually 1.3 fixed the P90's sound clip so it matches up.

Anyway, I really don't like the mp7 (though it does provide the engineer with a variety of unlocks)
The P90 beats the other Anti-Tank unlocks though.
Kratos Aurion
Member
+36|7124|Sweden
I would go for Mp-7, I like it more than the P90. And, Anti Tank guys already have SMGs, and they are similar to the P90. Engineer on the other hand only got shotguns and really could use the Mp-7.
_The.Don_05
Im super serial
+58|7065|England
Well it seems pretty equal P90-8 recommendations
                                      Mp7-6 recommendations

So i think that i am gonna go with the P90 as i will play the At class more in AF and will need a good gun for the USMC side and the PLA. Also i think that the Mg36 will be more useful than the jackhammer

Thanks for all your help guys i really appreciate it, karma for everyone that i can as i only have 5 karma points left.
No_Smoking
all your base are belong to us
+35|7178|Sacramento
in 1.3 the p90 rocks imho.
Thats like the only gun I use with that kit now. It is a VERY good weapon in close combat - half the time I dont even need to zoom to get kills.
If you like medium to long range.. then dont use it heh. just snipe with a rocket =P

I dont think it will beat a dao close up, but its still a good gun
Rizen_Ji
Member
+41|7217|200m out and smiling at you.
P90 always rocked, the only thing that changed with it was the sound clip for it's firing, they changed the ROF to 900 the patch after the gun was introduced.... It's just the placebo effect and people thinking it pwns cause of the sound.
NemeSiS-Factor
Favorite Weapon? Pistol
+29|7152|Everett, WA, US
Mp7, P90, jackhammer and the MG36

Alright, skip the Jackhammer 'till last (well second to last).  If your going to use Engineer for close range, the Remington and the Chinese shotguns are better.  If you practice with those, you can get a one shot kill easy, I can usually get two shots per kill.  The P90 is okay, but I still prefer the pistol for longer ranges and the DAO-12 for close.  The MP7 is awsome, you can use it close or medium range.  I still prefer the Remington for close range but the Mp7 works good too.  The bad news is you need to unlock the Jackhammer.  The MG36 is sort of an alternative to the PKM.  They have about the same accuracy now, but the PKM is stronger and slower.  The MG36 is faster but weaker.  It depends if you like to hit them as many times as possible for the kill, or if you like your shots to count and hit them only a couple times for a kill.  Basically they are the same gun when you boil it down.

In short, work for the MP7, but don't use the Jackhammer unless your MEC or planning to be outnumbered.
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Member
+77|7111|The Netherlands
well, P90 is strong but inaccurate, the MP7 is accurate but doest do a lot of damage, the jackhammer is kinda useless from distances and the mg36 is very good, even has a burst mod i would pick the mg36 !!!
No_Smoking
all your base are belong to us
+35|7178|Sacramento

Rizen_Ji wrote:

P90 always rocked, the only thing that changed with it was the sound clip for it's firing, they changed the ROF to 900 the patch after the gun was introduced.... It's just the placebo effect and people thinking it pwns cause of the sound.
yeah thats weird how that works heh.

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