BF2S Forums building first computer

dont forget to check ebay. you can get the deals of a lifetime on there. just make sure you read the item description real good along with the review the seller got. when i bought my fx 53 there was no fx 57 and the 55 fx had just came out. so the cheapest i could find the 53 was about $900. went on ebay and was able to get it for $500 brand new in retail box.

Paco_the_Insane wrote:

I've never built one before, so i dont know if this will work together, or if it will be good, or if its the best use of my money. I got these off TigerDirect.com, and there is like a 300 rebate of all these things, so tell me if this is good, or what to change.
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0GHz / 512KB Cache / 2000MHz FSB / ClawHammer / Hyper-Transport / OEM / Socket 939 / Processor (0.2 lbs) 
           $169.99   
Asus A8N-SLI NVIDIA Socket 939 ATX Motherboard / Audio / PCI Express / Gigabit LAN / USB 2.0 & Firewire / Serial ATA / RAID / SLI (3.5 lbs) 
           $129.99   
EVGA GeForce 7600 GT KO / 256MB GDDR3 / SLI / PCI Express / Dual DVI / HDTV / Video Card (1 lbs) 
           $179.99   
Xion II Black ATX Mid-Tower Case with Clear Side Front USB and Audio Ports and 450-Watt Power Supply (14 lbs) 
         $64.99   
NEC ND3550A / 16x8x16x DVD+RW / 16x6x16x DVD-RW / 8x DVD+R DL / 6x DVD-R DL / 48x32x48x CD-RW / Black / Dual Layer / Retail Box DVD Burner with Software (4 lbs) 
           $49.99   
Seagate / 160GB / 7200 / 8MB / SATA-300 / OEM / Hard Drive (3 lbs) 
          $89.99   
Famous Brand V1721DB / 17" / 12ms / SXGA 1280 x 1024 / Black / DVI / LCD Monitor with Speakers (9 lbs) 
          $219.99   
Logitech Precision PC Gaming Headset (2 lbs) 
    $19.99   
Ultra 1024MB PC3200 DDR 400MHz Memory (0.5 lbs) 
         $104.99   
Total     $1029.91

WOW!!! was there really a "build your own" thread I missed??  I must have been sitting on the shitter too long.
OP, I hope you didn't buy this stuff yet because you can get a much faster computer for the same $.

First, if you want to stick with a single core get an opteron 146 from monarch computer, they're currently going for under $120.  While at stock speed an opteron 146 is only 2Ghz, these are one of the better OCing chips out there and with a little time and trouble you should be able to see 2.8Ghz or better with nothing more than a decent HSF.  If you want to go with a dual core, you can get an opteron 165 for about twice the cost of the 146.
Second, don't sell yourself short.  Buy 2 gigs of ram.  If you follow my advice and get an opteron you should get DDR500 ram so you'll have some extra head room in your FSB (or HTT) speed.  I've bought a couple different kits from newegg, just go by price since they offer different mail in rebate deals every couple weeks.
Third, since you're going to be OCing the snot out of this rig you should have the best OCing mobo in the world.  DFI lanparty ultra D is what 99% of people agree is the best.  I personally run a much less expensive ECS KN1 SLI Lite board and am quite happy with it, but whenever I recommend this board people complain. 
Fourth, you should thinking about spending a few more $ on a 7900GT.  While a 7600GT is a good card, it's only a few $ more to get a 7900gt.  Look for hot deals on fatwallet.com.  I know many of the 7900GT cards are artifacting, but that's why you should always buy a card with a good warranty.  Mine's EVGA and it's artificating on me is annoying, but the game is still playable.  I'm waiting to see if there's an end of road on the constant flow of RMAs for these cards.  Ok... maybe you should just get a 7800gt.
NEC 3550 - good pick
seagate sata - good pick
17" LCD for $200 - rip off.  You should be able to get a 19" for that.  The wide screen 19" displays have been going on sale everywhere in the last few weeks.  Go to fatwallet and look for LCD deals.
I don't know anything about Xion, but the case is not the important part, it's the PS that needs to be good quality.

Now that I've ripped apart everything you chose I feel bad... but I'd feel worse if you bought the system then realized afterword how much more of a computer you could have had.

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

i agree w/ what hes getting, but if he can save up more and wait till conroe. but if u desperately need a pc now, then for ram go w/ g.skill, they are uber cheap.

Dude, are you obsessed with conroe? This is the second post i've seen you mentioned that

So now Conroe is out. Can anyone put together a Decent computer to run BF2 for $700 US?
If I use yours for my computer you get 10 karma.

Edit: and you have to make clickable links so i can put it in a shopping cart.

Last edited by Paco_the_Insane (2006-07-27 19:43:05)

slo5oh wrote:

Paco_the_Insane wrote:

I've never built one before, so i dont know if this will work together, or if it will be good, or if its the best use of my money. I got these off TigerDirect.com, and there is like a 300 rebate of all these things, so tell me if this is good, or what to change.
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0GHz / 512KB Cache / 2000MHz FSB / ClawHammer / Hyper-Transport / OEM / Socket 939 / Processor (0.2 lbs) 
           $169.99   
Asus A8N-SLI NVIDIA Socket 939 ATX Motherboard / Audio / PCI Express / Gigabit LAN / USB 2.0 & Firewire / Serial ATA / RAID / SLI (3.5 lbs) 
           $129.99   
EVGA GeForce 7600 GT KO / 256MB GDDR3 / SLI / PCI Express / Dual DVI / HDTV / Video Card (1 lbs) 
           $179.99   
Xion II Black ATX Mid-Tower Case with Clear Side Front USB and Audio Ports and 450-Watt Power Supply (14 lbs) 
         $64.99   
NEC ND3550A / 16x8x16x DVD+RW / 16x6x16x DVD-RW / 8x DVD+R DL / 6x DVD-R DL / 48x32x48x CD-RW / Black / Dual Layer / Retail Box DVD Burner with Software (4 lbs) 
           $49.99   
Seagate / 160GB / 7200 / 8MB / SATA-300 / OEM / Hard Drive (3 lbs) 
          $89.99   
Famous Brand V1721DB / 17" / 12ms / SXGA 1280 x 1024 / Black / DVI / LCD Monitor with Speakers (9 lbs) 
          $219.99   
Logitech Precision PC Gaming Headset (2 lbs) 
    $19.99   
Ultra 1024MB PC3200 DDR 400MHz Memory (0.5 lbs) 
         $104.99   
Total     $1029.91

WOW!!! was there really a "build your own" thread I missed??  I must have been sitting on the shitter too long.
OP, I hope you didn't buy this stuff yet because you can get a much faster computer for the same $.

First, if you want to stick with a single core get an opteron 146 from monarch computer, they're currently going for under $120.  While at stock speed an opteron 146 is only 2Ghz, these are one of the better OCing chips out there and with a little time and trouble you should be able to see 2.8Ghz or better with nothing more than a decent HSF.  If you want to go with a dual core, you can get an opteron 165 for about twice the cost of the 146.
Second, don't sell yourself short.  Buy 2 gigs of ram.  If you follow my advice and get an opteron you should get DDR500 ram so you'll have some extra head room in your FSB (or HTT) speed.  I've bought a couple different kits from newegg, just go by price since they offer different mail in rebate deals every couple weeks.
Third, since you're going to be OCing the snot out of this rig you should have the best OCing mobo in the world.  DFI lanparty ultra D is what 99% of people agree is the best.  I personally run a much less expensive ECS KN1 SLI Lite board and am quite happy with it, but whenever I recommend this board people complain. 
Fourth, you should thinking about spending a few more $ on a 7900GT.  While a 7600GT is a good card, it's only a few $ more to get a 7900gt.  Look for hot deals on fatwallet.com.  I know many of the 7900GT cards are artifacting, but that's why you should always buy a card with a good warranty.  Mine's EVGA and it's artificating on me is annoying, but the game is still playable.  I'm waiting to see if there's an end of road on the constant flow of RMAs for these cards.  Ok... maybe you should just get a 7800gt.
NEC 3550 - good pick
seagate sata - good pick
17" LCD for $200 - rip off.  You should be able to get a 19" for that.  The wide screen 19" displays have been going on sale everywhere in the last few weeks.  Go to fatwallet and look for LCD deals.
I don't know anything about Xion, but the case is not the important part, it's the PS that needs to be good quality.

Now that I've ripped apart everything you chose I feel bad... but I'd feel worse if you bought the system then realized afterword how much more of a computer you could have had.

You have no idea what youre talking about

karma27police wrote:

slo5oh wrote:

Paco_the_Insane wrote:

I've never built one before, so i dont know if this will work together, or if it will be good, or if its the best use of my money. I got these off TigerDirect.com, and there is like a 300 rebate of all these things, so tell me if this is good, or what to change.
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0GHz / 512KB Cache / 2000MHz FSB / ClawHammer / Hyper-Transport / OEM / Socket 939 / Processor (0.2 lbs) 
           $169.99   
Asus A8N-SLI NVIDIA Socket 939 ATX Motherboard / Audio / PCI Express / Gigabit LAN / USB 2.0 & Firewire / Serial ATA / RAID / SLI (3.5 lbs) 
           $129.99   
EVGA GeForce 7600 GT KO / 256MB GDDR3 / SLI / PCI Express / Dual DVI / HDTV / Video Card (1 lbs) 
           $179.99   
Xion II Black ATX Mid-Tower Case with Clear Side Front USB and Audio Ports and 450-Watt Power Supply (14 lbs) 
         $64.99   
NEC ND3550A / 16x8x16x DVD+RW / 16x6x16x DVD-RW / 8x DVD+R DL / 6x DVD-R DL / 48x32x48x CD-RW / Black / Dual Layer / Retail Box DVD Burner with Software (4 lbs) 
           $49.99   
Seagate / 160GB / 7200 / 8MB / SATA-300 / OEM / Hard Drive (3 lbs) 
          $89.99   
Famous Brand V1721DB / 17" / 12ms / SXGA 1280 x 1024 / Black / DVI / LCD Monitor with Speakers (9 lbs) 
          $219.99   
Logitech Precision PC Gaming Headset (2 lbs) 
    $19.99   
Ultra 1024MB PC3200 DDR 400MHz Memory (0.5 lbs) 
         $104.99   
Total     $1029.91

WOW!!! was there really a "build your own" thread I missed??  I must have been sitting on the shitter too long.
OP, I hope you didn't buy this stuff yet because you can get a much faster computer for the same $.

First, if you want to stick with a single core get an opteron 146 from monarch computer, they're currently going for under $120.  While at stock speed an opteron 146 is only 2Ghz, these are one of the better OCing chips out there and with a little time and trouble you should be able to see 2.8Ghz or better with nothing more than a decent HSF.  If you want to go with a dual core, you can get an opteron 165 for about twice the cost of the 146.
Second, don't sell yourself short.  Buy 2 gigs of ram.  If you follow my advice and get an opteron you should get DDR500 ram so you'll have some extra head room in your FSB (or HTT) speed.  I've bought a couple different kits from newegg, just go by price since they offer different mail in rebate deals every couple weeks.
Third, since you're going to be OCing the snot out of this rig you should have the best OCing mobo in the world.  DFI lanparty ultra D is what 99% of people agree is the best.  I personally run a much less expensive ECS KN1 SLI Lite board and am quite happy with it, but whenever I recommend this board people complain. 
Fourth, you should thinking about spending a few more $ on a 7900GT.  While a 7600GT is a good card, it's only a few $ more to get a 7900gt.  Look for hot deals on fatwallet.com.  I know many of the 7900GT cards are artifacting, but that's why you should always buy a card with a good warranty.  Mine's EVGA and it's artificating on me is annoying, but the game is still playable.  I'm waiting to see if there's an end of road on the constant flow of RMAs for these cards.  Ok... maybe you should just get a 7800gt.
NEC 3550 - good pick
seagate sata - good pick
17" LCD for $200 - rip off.  You should be able to get a 19" for that.  The wide screen 19" displays have been going on sale everywhere in the last few weeks.  Go to fatwallet and look for LCD deals.
I don't know anything about Xion, but the case is not the important part, it's the PS that needs to be good quality.

Now that I've ripped apart everything you chose I feel bad... but I'd feel worse if you bought the system then realized afterword how much more of a computer you could have had.

You have no idea what youre talking about

I'll have to double that, the opteron isn't meant for anything other than servers, so you won't get what you want with it.

Sorry i had to do this to bump it, I know its spamming, but I edited the list so I have a good reason.

max wrote:

Vintageologist wrote:

I'll have to double that, the opteron isn't meant for anything other than servers, so you won't get what you want with it.

you are pretty ignorant right? 939-opterons are exactly like their athlon counterparts. there is no diference in performance under any scenario between the 2. the only diference is that opterons have much better quality = easier to reach higher ocs.

agree. optys pwn

max wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

max wrote:

you are pretty ignorant right? 939-opterons are exactly like their athlon counterparts. there is no diference in performance under any scenario between the 2. the only diference is that opterons have much better quality = easier to reach higher ocs.

agree. optys pwn

thank you. i really want to know who spread that rumor.

probably some n00b who dont know shit about pcs

Paco_the_Insane wrote:

I only have $700 give or take

Ebay My Friend.

PS hey Paco. I hope you dont mind but i am taking yuour avice!
EVERYONE Keep it coming!

Last edited by ednodes (2006-08-05 13:50:32)

well, seeing as i was supposed to get it for my birthday, and thats june first, i think i might get a job, and wait till christmas, maybe have somemore money

Just set the list this morning. Have at it.