tahadar
Sniper!!
+183|7333|Pakistan/England
so some of you may be eagerly waiting for the Point of Existence 2 mod for bf2, which should be out pretty soon. Well im one of those people. anyways, here's a weapon that will be found in the upcoming mod:

20mm (holy shit!) NTW-20 rifle:

https://images.totalbf2.com/news/ntw202.jpg

https://www.pointofexistence.com/newsimages/news71/ntw204.jpg
(pics from totalbf2)

now THAT is gonna be fun to use. there's something like an M-82 for the german side, while the ukranians get this beast. there's gonna be a PSG-1 or MSG-90 and other rifles in a later release i think. you can check out more stuff here:

http://www.pointofexistence.com/

In comparison, the M95 looks like a BB gun

https://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/TahaDar/screen309.jpg

real gun:

https://olternaut.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/ntw20p.jpg

Last edited by tahadar (2006-06-17 06:33:53)

DaReJa
BF2s US Server Admin
+257|7221|Los Angeles, California, US.
I cant Wait. .
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liquidat0r
wtf.
+2,223|7222|UK
now that's a sniper rifle!
pure_beef_69
Banned
+186|7241
Looks beefy
=NwW= SgtD
Member
+16|7171|England basingstoke
sweet cant wait
diglow~Flow
Member
+32|7221|British Columbia, Canada
That looks armor peircing...
tahadar
Sniper!!
+183|7333|Pakistan/England
just to clarify, that gun shoots the same round as the US jets cannon in normal BF2. Splash damage for snipers? yey!

Last edited by tahadar (2006-06-17 03:58:55)

ToXiC888
Cal players > BF2s
+40|7179|Columbus,Ohio-THE Ohio State U

tahadar wrote:

just to clarify, that gun shoots the same round as the US jets cannon in normal BF2. Splash damage for snipers? yey!
yep 20 mm vulcans on the american jets, lol splash dmg maybe, but the germans only get those puny .50 rounds on the M82:(
jkohlc
2142th Whore
+214|7121|Singapore
here goes the uber long range n00b tubing
Hyper
Banned
+154|7345
im stilll more anxiuos for desert conflict
everything is too clean in this mod
Mongoose
That 70's guy
+156|7125|Sydney, in 1978
why not have a DAO-12 attatchment at the bottom of it so snipers dont get buggered in close quarters combat:D
E7IX3R
is drunk and crazy
+216|7283|UK
imagine sprinting with that thing
tahadar
Sniper!!
+183|7333|Pakistan/England

E7IX3R wrote:

imagine sprinting with that thing
lmao, probably need a two-man team to haul it around in real life
M_Harrower
Will code HTML for food
+114|7168
Wow. Since the M95 takes all but 2 bars of health off you when you get hit in the body, does this mean that the NTW-20 will be a one shot kill on the body?
Entertayner
Member
+826|7165

Got any specs for the gun in comparison with the vbf2 snipers, larger/smaller bullet drop etc??
DirtyMexican
I knife Generals
+278|7132|Search Whore killing fields

E7IX3R wrote:

imagine sprinting with that thing
Sniper: "Requesting chuck norris drop over"
tahadar
Sniper!!
+183|7333|Pakistan/England

EntertaineR_06 wrote:

Got any specs for the gun in comparison with the vbf2 snipers, larger/smaller bullet drop etc??
nope, no idea. the mod hasnt been released yet, so only time will tell
Towelly
It's A State Of Mind
+399|7185|Your attic
Ok, that thing looks fun.
Maybe it can go through walls, a la CS, that might be quite difficult to code though.
-Solv3r-
Heia den som vinner!
+115|7152|Oslo, Norway
Been there, seen that!

I'm looking forward to the MOD!
Chikyuu Shoujo Arujuna
Member
+42|7226|Norway
1. the old school PSG-1 will own any other sniper rifle

2. a sniper with the NTW-20 wont be able to camouflage himself and will be shot by a camping PSG-1 sniper in a couple of seconds

3. if the NTW-20 becomes a 1-hit-1-kill weapon then the PSG-1 must become a semi-auto 2-hit-1-kill weapon. if so, both weapon would be extremely unbalanced and the mod would become unplayable.

ergo: bullshit mod, rather continue with playing on ranked server to improve your stats
The_Killer
Banned
+113|7120|dunno
when does this mod come out??
Entertayner
Member
+826|7165

Towelly wrote:

Ok, that thing looks fun.
Maybe it can go through walls, a la CS, that might be quite difficult to code though.
Just a wee bit, maybe a whole new game re-write and even larger sys requirements to run
MoChief
Member
+67|7196
I think that should cause some damage to armor, no?

Mmmm.. bigguns.  Err... I mean, big guns.
EvilMonkeySlayer
Member
+82|7246

M_Harrower wrote:

Wow. Since the M95 takes all but 2 bars of health off you when you get hit in the body, does this mean that the NTW-20 will be a one shot kill on the body?
It'll be a one hit kill weapon, however it'll be so powerful that the moment you respawn after being shot by one you die again.

It's that powerful.

Last edited by EvilMonkeySlayer (2006-06-17 08:42:12)

Books_DCDF
Member
+80|7253

tahadar wrote:

just to clarify, that gun shoots the same round as the US jets cannon in normal BF2. Splash damage for snipers? yey!
Sorry to contradict you, Tahadar, but actually the only similarity between the rounds is the caliber--both are 20 mm.  The NTW fires a low velocity 20 mm round with a significantly shorter casing than the aircraft ammunition (the casing is 83.5 mm in length--shorter, actually, than the casing of the 12.6 x 99 round used by the M82/M95).  A shorter casing limits the amount of propellant that can be loaded behind the projectile, contributing to the lower velocity of the round.  Though I'm not certain about this, I imagine the reason for using the low velocity round is to reduce recoil to a point where it wouldn't injure the shooter.  Back in the '80s, the U.S. Army experimented with developing an anti-materiel sniper rilfe based around the round used in the 25 mm Bushmaster cannon--the chain gun used in the M2 Bradley and the LAV 25.  While the round proved superior in damaging hard targets, the kick of the rifle was such that it would have broken/dislocated the shoulder of the shooter, so the project was scrapped and for a while they chose to rely on the M82 outfitted with specialized ammo as an anti-material weapon.  (An M82 equipped with armor-piercing or Raufoss incendiary rounds can--and will--penetrate the the armored driver's hatch of a BMP/BTR/BRDM, killing the driver.)

The reduced velocity of the NTW's 20 mm round means that it possesses quite a bit less kinetic energy than the aircraft round, so it won't do as much damage aas one might anticipate for a shoulder-fired projectile of such large size.  It is, however, a cannon round, which means that it can be (and usually is) equipped with an explosive projectile, and this is where most of its damage potential comes from.

But I'll agree with you, the thing looks to be a beast and I'd hate to be on the receiving end of a shot from it.  But can you imagine lugging that monster around the battlefield?  It weighs almost 60 pounds.

Last edited by Books_DCDF (2006-06-17 09:08:28)

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