Do any of you think the medic gun is to powerful for its class and making them have infinite heal bags?? I think they should make medic a SMG like in BF1942 (MP40,MP18,Thompson) cause i like medic but sometimes i think the class is way to over powered cause of the weapon like the M16 is fine for medic but what other gun would they add if they did this cause then there wouldnt be alot of ppl using medic cause of te SMG(MP5,PP-19,Type96)
They have to have an assault rifle. None are overpowered. All weapons in the game are great if you know how to use them. It is all about the user.
naaah i think it is good as it is...... there are many weapons to choose so would you change the basic weapons or would you change all the unlocks?
I know but its the same weapon as assault without a gernadelauncher too many noobs play medic and it pisses me off i think they should make each class have special ablities like support can handle recoil better than another sniper is accurate and doesnt move scope alot medic can run the fastest but isnt that accurate etc
or atleast not have infinite medic bags
or atleast not have infinite medic bags
Last edited by ?? (2006-06-19 06:11:15)
Do you know how deadly combat medics can be (in real life)? Vietnam was a good show of that...(sorry to bring the subject of this war up...)
Last edited by TheDarkRaven (2006-06-19 06:12:01)
What utter shit just play the game
i can follow you on the infinite medic bags....... but then that should also be changed for the supplies.
but concerning the medic assault rifle i think it is alright..... maybe the ME C's AK101 is a little powerful, but still it is a fair game, but that is only my opinion.
but how about this. you get the medics to not have infinite medic bags and instead of long sprint distance then just short?
but concerning the medic assault rifle i think it is alright..... maybe the ME C's AK101 is a little powerful, but still it is a fair game, but that is only my opinion.
but how about this. you get the medics to not have infinite medic bags and instead of long sprint distance then just short?
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I say change the unlocks. It seems to me that a lot of the basic weapons are stronger or more accurate... the SAW (Support) is more accurate than the PKM, which is more powerful. The M4 (Spec Ops) is crazy compare to the unlocks.
Last edited by srog72 (2006-06-19 06:19:55)
All of those things are already programmed into the game and the weapons, check out this site's wiki section and all of the guns are programmed with different amounts of recoil, fire rates, deviation levels etc.?? wrote:
I know but its the same weapon as assault without a gernadelauncher too many noobs play medic and it pisses me off i think they should make each class have special ablities like support can handle recoil better than another
Again, the sniper gun is prgrammed to be the most accurate gun so this is already in place, the 2nd suggestion is already possible with a mouse that lets you change resolution on the fly (like mine) so you can move it at normal spped for quick, wide-angled sniping and slower for narrow angled, slower moving shots.?? wrote:
sniper is accurate and doesnt move scope alot
With regards to running, medics already get more stamina than the other classes so although they can't run faster, they can run for longer. I'd also add that making them run faster would only push even more people to opt for the kit and vehicle whore would use it as an advantage to get to vehicles first at the start of the round (do we really want 10 medics al running for tank?)?? wrote:
medic can run the fastest but isnt that accurate etc
All of those things are already programmed into the game and the weapons, check out this site's wiki section and all of the guns are programmed with different amounts of recoil, fire rates, deviation levels etc.
why the fuck should we have to alter guns just because they're not good enough?! Not every gun has to be a goddamn ak-101! Do you want superiority over the lower ranks who don't have all the unlocks yet?
thren keep the gun just not infinite medic bags cause anyone who is skilled with medic gun will never die unless multipule ppl go for him
Sarge v1.4 i want to play u soon im alittle rusty cause ive been flying so much
How do u get bright green text plz help
Also im a SgtMaj i got all the unlocks L85A1 is ok and G36E is a good upgrade for USMC medics
G36C is crappy should be G36K
Sarge v1.4 i want to play u soon im alittle rusty cause ive been flying so much
How do u get bright green text plz help
Also im a SgtMaj i got all the unlocks L85A1 is ok and G36E is a good upgrade for USMC medics
G36C is crappy should be G36K
Last edited by ?? (2006-06-19 06:24:17)
there is some sense in what you are saying...... of course it is nice to raise in rank and get unlocks and so on, but ( this i only my opinion) there are to many weapon unlocks...... cant anything else be unlocked..... camouflage clothing or something.....
yes i do know it sounds kinda stupid, but give me some ideas. this thread is coming because the difference between the character unlocks are so weird.
correct me if im wrong, but use a nice language...
yes i do know it sounds kinda stupid, but give me some ideas. this thread is coming because the difference between the character unlocks are so weird.
correct me if im wrong, but use a nice language...
in bf2142 u can unlock different gernades and weapons 3/4 a active camo mines etc and 1/4 are guns
how about no UNLOCKS PERIOD like BF1942 i dont like unlocks they screw me up but since i fly now doesnt matter what kit
how about no UNLOCKS PERIOD like BF1942 i dont like unlocks they screw me up but since i fly now doesnt matter what kit
Last edited by ?? (2006-06-19 06:27:23)
Give AT's submachine's for medic and medic's assault rifles for AT . It would be fun for all exept armor whores
Last edited by Longbow (2006-06-19 06:28:34)
Yeah, like last night when at least two noobs tried repeatedly to revive me and failed; another tried once, it didn't work so he gave up. Come on people, it ain't that hard!!! Lie the hell down and shock the body *rolls eyes*?? wrote:
...too many noobs play medic....
he heh damn straight...... how hard can it be. also a bit funny that all "new ones" start out playing as a medic.... or is that just my impression?Todd_Angelo wrote:
Yeah, like last night when at least two noobs tried repeatedly to revive me and failed; another tried once, it didn't work so he gave up. Come on people, it ain't that hard!!! Lie the hell down and shock the body *rolls eyes*?? wrote:
...too many noobs play medic....
Taps his trusty M11-87. Although not the strongest weapon, or fastest I still own MEC ass on Iron Gator and many BF2 Vanilla maps.
I think that too many people complain about different weapons/vehicles being over powered, then EA/DICE decided to change things with the next patch and just ruin the game.
People complained about getting killed all the time by claymores from teamates, so EA/DICE changed this so that you can not be killed. But then in the process of this they decided to stop you being able to blow up a claymore with a granade, and this has now messed the game up even more than the fact that you could die from a teamates claymore.
You are complaining that a weapon is too powerful? so EA/DICE so change it and give them a water pistol instead? someone will only then come back the day after the next patch and complain that the Medic kit is useless now because you cant kill anyone with it!
just take BF2 for what it is, A GAME, and stop whining that something is not how it should be. maybe then EA/DICE would stop releasing poor patches which crash the game constantly.
People complained about getting killed all the time by claymores from teamates, so EA/DICE changed this so that you can not be killed. But then in the process of this they decided to stop you being able to blow up a claymore with a granade, and this has now messed the game up even more than the fact that you could die from a teamates claymore.
You are complaining that a weapon is too powerful? so EA/DICE so change it and give them a water pistol instead? someone will only then come back the day after the next patch and complain that the Medic kit is useless now because you cant kill anyone with it!
just take BF2 for what it is, A GAME, and stop whining that something is not how it should be. maybe then EA/DICE would stop releasing poor patches which crash the game constantly.
Wait, wait.... you did not just try and say how awesome medics are by pulling real life into this game, did you??? wrote:
I know but its the same weapon as assault without a gernadelauncher too many noobs play medic and it pisses me off i think they should make each class have special ablities like support can handle recoil better than another sniper is accurate and doesnt move scope alot medic can run the fastest but isnt that accurate etc
or atleast not have infinite medic bags
I think you're right... medics IRL would be bloody amazing if they could take somebody who'd been hit with artillary, a tank, a bomb, or.. anything that would make them bleed to death or otherwise die NOT of a non-system-compromised cardiac arrest and make them all better again with defibulator paddles. Screw vietnam, modern medicine as we know it would be an entirely different ballgame. =p
There really are too many nubcakes that play medic, and the medic unlock being so good when after every kill a heal is at hand is a bit silly.
That said, I'm not sure I'd change medics heals... I'm more concerned with the infinite quick revive thing. They need to make the paddles take a LOT longer to recharge, or make it so a soldier could only be revived once "per life". I seem to run into a situation a few times a day where I'm trying to defend a CP against 3 or more guys in a squad who are all medics and often times you simply can't kill them because they just continually chain revive eachother. A lucky grenade seems to be the only solution to those guys.
G36E needs to do a little less damage. To add on that, pump shotguns should fire slightly faster and shotguns all together should be a little more accurate when you aim with them (except the DAO).
Nobody is whining... he just asked what our opinion is.
I think the medic class is stronger than assault class, except CQC. The only advantege of the assault is the granade launcher (in many situations granades are better) and that he can take 1-2 more assault rifle bullets.
The medic can choose the G36E (MEC and PLA got the AK101/47) and got medi packs...
My suggestion is to give assault more armor (10-15%) + 1 more smoke granade.
The Pumpguns and SMGs could be a little bit more accurate too...
But I think its still well balanced and good players owning with every kit...
I think the medic class is stronger than assault class, except CQC. The only advantege of the assault is the granade launcher (in many situations granades are better) and that he can take 1-2 more assault rifle bullets.
The medic can choose the G36E (MEC and PLA got the AK101/47) and got medi packs...
My suggestion is to give assault more armor (10-15%) + 1 more smoke granade.
The Pumpguns and SMGs could be a little bit more accurate too...
But I think its still well balanced and good players owning with every kit...
The weapons are all fine how they are...its time to give up on this nitpicking, fix the real issues like crashing, and just enjoy the game until the next big game comes out.
There's a strong feeling throughout that the Medic kit is just better equipped than the others, and in particular it makes the Assault kit look a bit under-par. Personally, I don't think it's too big a deal. The body armour and G3 make up for it, in my opinion, as those two together make you a hell of a lot better at killing infantry.
A head-to-head battle between a G3 wielding Assault trooper and any Medic kit of your choice is probably going to be a win for the Assault, assuming equal play-skill. BUT - equal skill and heads-up combat is pretty rare, and that's why the Medic, with almost as much killing power, wins out with his med-packs.
My own opinion would be to leave the guns alone, but take away the Medics grenades. It gives the Assault kit a better 'edge', and lets face it, if you've got an entire Emergency Room or four strapped to your backpack, you don't want the extra weight of the grenades, do you?
A head-to-head battle between a G3 wielding Assault trooper and any Medic kit of your choice is probably going to be a win for the Assault, assuming equal play-skill. BUT - equal skill and heads-up combat is pretty rare, and that's why the Medic, with almost as much killing power, wins out with his med-packs.
My own opinion would be to leave the guns alone, but take away the Medics grenades. It gives the Assault kit a better 'edge', and lets face it, if you've got an entire Emergency Room or four strapped to your backpack, you don't want the extra weight of the grenades, do you?
+1 cus it says it all: the greatest skill wins the battleTheDarkRaven wrote:
They have to have an assault rifle. None are overpowered. All weapons in the game are great if you know how to use them. It is all about the user.