bobroonie.bda
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Longbow wrote:

bobroonie.bda wrote:

but to me all guns are pretty much equal, it just depends on the user. There is no gun thats better because its just the better gun. assault rifles are powerful but not as accurate as carbines, thats the trade off. Now it comes down to the skill / tactics of the user.. Some guys suck with carbines but rock with assaults.
Agree with that , but ...
I showed an example of G36E usage . What is still non-understandable ? Answer one single question , so you will understand my holy war against G36E . Favourite gun among n00bs ? - The answer is known .

Yes , it is unbalanced .Or you don't agree that G36E needs much less skill to do effectively with it ? I just don't like similar kills .I don't use armor on city maps , I don't use overpowered guns , etc . It's my gamestyle .

p/s hope you use stocks .
I'm a spec ops i use the g36c, when im assault i use the g3, medic i use them all, all 3 unlocks and the standerd. depending on the situation, what flags im going for.ect..

what takes more skill to use? that depends on the player and there tactics. for instance if your using a carbine you dont want to get to close because it does less damage.. if your using an assault your at medium to close range. It might seem like the g36e is the easier of the 2 to use but in close quarters combat the 101 smokes the carbine. So this gives a major advantage to head shots and killing in 3 shots. where the carbine takes 4 or 5. the 3 round burst is also a medium range advantage, close range you want fully auto and long range you single fire.. giving an advantage to the 101 again.. you dont need to switch from 1 to auto shot with the 101 but with the g36e you need to switch from single to burst fire to be effective.

there is no gun that will win the battle for you, you have to use each gun a bit differently depending on the situation. this is why i believe there is no "perfect" or unblanced gun..

Last edited by bobroonie.bda (2006-06-27 06:11:36)

Longbow
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bobroonie.bda

May I give you one advise ? You say you use G3 as assault , but ... ever tryed GL since v1.2 ? Yes , it needs more practice , but now ppl are not afraid of being "n00b-t00bed" - GL is ownage now

And yeh , I shall give you +1 , as you are the first person who didn't just give me -1 for my opinion on G36E .
bobroonie.bda
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Longbow wrote:

bobroonie.bda

May I give you one advise ? You say you use G3 as assault , but ... ever tryed GL since v1.2 ? Yes , it needs more practice , but now ppl are not afraid of being "n00b-t00bed" - GL is ownage now

And yeh , I shall give you +1 , as you are the first person who didn't just give me -1 for my opinion on G36E .
I lean twards the G3 because of the fully auto mode when im U.S.. dont like burst fire.. And i like standerd gernades over the GL. I just feel i get more accuracy when wanting to say throw them on roofs or over walls things of that nature. accuracy of the G3 is awesome in fully auto mode when needed. single shot all 3 are about the same. yea and i have to admit the sound of the gun rocks. lol
Boots
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XxUNDEROATHxX wrote:

Sgt_Bob05 wrote:

Fucking right. G36E is so much better, so much more accurate, better rate of fire.
it has lower damage and slower rate of fire....

You cant get headshots with the G36E...

AK101>G36E>AK47>M16A2>L85A1

thats the order in my opinion....
ak, g36e, l8, ak47, m16
he_who_says_zonk
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The G36E is much easier to use than the AK-101, that's certainly true. Three round burst allows you to fire quickly and accurately. But if you get familiar with the AK-101 and sleep with it and buy it flowers, it's insanely good. Let me quote from the Laws Of BF2 thread -

"13. If someone with an ak-101 happens to glance at you, you will instantly die of fear."

In practice I normally use the G36E when I play medic because it's the easiest, but if I am having a frustrating round, I change to the AK-101 and go on rage sprees.



I prefer the G3 to either of them because it, while a temperamental girl, can deliver when you need it. The number of times I've had a near empty clip that I forgot to reload and emptied it on reflex into someone's face and kill them, the number of times I've headshotted Humvee gunners while I was in the open and being fired at ... I can't go back, baby. I never noob tubed even before it was nerfed because I got better results with the G3. Battle Rifle FTW.
Boots
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XxUNDEROATHxX wrote:

<KoS>Audio wrote:

Nein?  I definelty prefer the Ak-101.  Who needs unlocks?  The stock guns own.
Thats the talk of a real clan member right there. Its such a shock to our recruits that we dont use unlocks in our matches....

Thats how/why you become good with the AK101....

Now if only I could master the M16!

-XxUNDEROATHxX
The way to master the m16 in TWL matches is to press "G" over someone you just pwnt from MEC.
Daz
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G36E is for lamers who cant shoot and just rape a burst gun.

Whole reason it was invented so noob recruits dont empty the whole mag on accident. Shouldnt even be 900 RPM. It has gotten worse than the PKM now, but I am always fine with it because people using it usually suck with all the other guns thus using that.

The AK-101 not only looks way better, but is way better, 37 damage is handy, its just alittle harder to take long range shots with.

And I totally agree, I hate almost all the unlocks now, whats the point when everyone has them anyway, was much better in the old days when if you saw a jackhammer or PKM you were actually shocked and amazed.

Defaults own all.

Last edited by Daz (2006-06-27 06:46:48)

Flaming_Maniac
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Go die.
bobroonie.bda
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Daz wrote:

G36E is for lamers who cant shoot and just rape a burst gun.

Whole reason it was invented so noob recruits dont empty the whole mag on accident. Shouldnt even be 900 RPM. It has gotten worse than the PKM now, but I am always fine with it because people using it usually suck with all the other guns thus using that.

The AK-101 not only looks way better, but is way better, 37 damage is handy, its just alittle harder to take long range shots with.

And I totally agree, I hate almost all the unlocks now, whats the point when everyone has them anyway, was much better in the old days when if you saw a jackhammer or PKM you were actually shocked and amazed.

Defaults own all.
ill try this again..

If the Ak 101 is the better gun then how is the g36e for "noob recruits"? Do you really think burst fire gives a major advantage? generalizing a player by which gun he uses is what i would consider to be pretty "noobish".
Since when is it looked down apon to use unlocks? from the looks of it you pretty much suck with every gun so who are you to judge what skill or lack there of is?  If you cant switch kits and guns in those kits to best suit the situation is that not "noobish"? Because every gun and kit has its advantages and disadvantages no?

Last edited by bobroonie.bda (2006-06-27 06:57:23)

Daz
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Its an easy weapon to master, like the PKM since upgraded, thus when people cant progress with anything else they take that out.

Sure, fair enough if you REALLY like the gun but It is overused alot, and the advantage is 900 RPM, and because of burst there isnt much deviation, so two bursts on a guy which will be done in a second will kill the guy.

Hell I used it once and i managed to get another burst off before the game actually recognised he died, half the time I thought I needed 3 bursts to kill but Its just the fact it went so fast. Because I shot one guy with 2 bursts and left him, expecting to be killed but he just died randomly half a second after I stopped shooting.
Sambuccashake
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I was getting ready to type a nice big post in this thread but bobroonie.bda seems to do my typing for me.

+1 for you.

Last edited by Sambuccashake (2006-06-27 07:05:55)

bobroonie.bda
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Daz wrote:

Its an easy weapon to master, like the PKM since upgraded, thus when people cant progress with anything else they take that out.

Sure, fair enough if you REALLY like the gun but It is overused alot, and the advantage is 900 RPM, and because of burst there isnt much deviation, so two bursts on a guy which will be done in a second will kill the guy.

Hell I used it once and i managed to get another burst off before the game actually recognised he died, half the time I thought I needed 3 bursts to kill but Its just the fact it went so fast. Because I shot one guy with 2 bursts and left him, expecting to be killed but he just died randomly half a second after I stopped shooting.
Ok.. but the ak 101 can kill you in 1 shot.. 1 bullet.. and your dead.. but like any other gun it takes a while to master.. and in the end depends on the skill of the person behind any gun to determine how good a gun is. IMO no gun is a "noob" gun because there all good at killing.. I'm just the type of player that uses all weapons at my disposal depending on the situation. And i do use the g36e but only when that gun is needed. I dont feel the need to use a certin gun because one is "noobish" and one is "pro".
Lucien
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Can we drop this already? Just find the gun you're best with and stick with it, mkay?
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Canterwood
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AK101>G36E>L85A1>AK47>M16A2
imho

Last edited by Canterwood (2006-06-27 07:18:21)

Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
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AK-47 > AK-101 > M16 > G36E > all other guns > a wheelbarrow > l85a1
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cmsgt_one_shot
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Ya I must say that the ak beats out some of the unlocks.
[GS]ChrONOtriGGeI2
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is funny how everyone here call the L8 a crappy and shitty gun
yet when go online and own with  the l8 they call me a L8 noob user??
like wtf?? who actually used that gun anyways
bobroonie.bda
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[GS]ChrONOtriGGeI2 wrote:

is funny how everyone here call the L8 a crappy and shitty gun
yet when go online and own with  the l8 they call me a L8 noob user??
like wtf?? who actually used that gun anyways
haha awesome.. Yea i use the G36C, nobody on here even put it up as a top 5 yet i feel its the best gun in the game. it all depends on prefrence and what your good at.. if someone calls a gun a "noob gun" they really dont have any real argument or real reasons why. Ill call the Ak 101 the "noob gun" because everyone uses it. kinda like karkand is the "noob" map.. haha

Last edited by bobroonie.bda (2006-06-27 07:35:15)

Canterwood
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[GS]ChrONOtriGGeI2 wrote:

is funny how everyone here call the L8 a crappy and shitty gun
yet when go online and own with  the l8 they call me a L8 noob user??
like wtf?? who actually used that gun anyways
I use it all the time and don't find it as bad as people make it out to be, you just gotta aim at the head.
Longbow
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SargeV1.4 wrote:

AK-47 > AK-101 > M16 > G36E > all other guns > a wheelbarrow > l85a1
+1
CLEVERLITTLETROJAN
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G36E for me
The1_Knightmare
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G36e>famas>ak47>ak101>l85a1>m16
Kontrolfreq
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I generally use the G36e over the other medic guns, mostly because burst fire makes makes it more useful in more situations. I also like the L8, it has insane zoom and headshot capabilities. I'll try the AK a bit tonight and see how i get on.

All these people saying the ak-101 takes more skill and is therefore the better gun - W.T.F?? Surely that makes it WORSE!! "Aw, this chocolate coffee mug takes MUCH more skill, it must be brilliant!!!"
-Gunsmoke-
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Longbow wrote:

bobroonie.bda

May I give you one advise ? You say you use G3 as assault , but ... ever tryed GL since v1.2 ? Yes , it needs more practice , but now ppl are not afraid of being "n00b-t00bed" - GL is ownage now

And yeh , I shall give you +1 , as you are the first person who didn't just give me -1 for my opinion on G36E .
I agree with the GL part.  I've gotten more practice with it and have gotten some pretty awesome kills with it.  It's still very effective if you know how to aim it correctly.
genius_man16
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just b/c everyone seems to be doing it:

Support:  PKM > RPK-74 > M249 SAW > MG36
Assault:  AK-101 > F2000 > AK-47 > M16 > G3
Engineer:  Jackhammer > all pump action shotguns > MP-7
Medic:  G36E > M16 > AK-101 > AK-47
Anti-Tank: DOA-12 > P90 > all other subs
Sniper:  L96A1 > M95 > M24 > Type 88 > SVD
Spec-Ops:  M4 > SCAR-L > G36C > AK-74U > QBZ-97

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