its possible to land the planes, i do it all the time just get the right speed and put the rear down first just like in real. altough i fail plenty to.....then u start to blush and get that feeling everyone is watching and shouting n0000000bshortah wrote:
and the only planes that it is possible to land with is the f-35, because essentially its a harrier.B.Schuss wrote:
I also agree that planes should need to land before being able to repair and re-arm. Hopefully, EA addresses that in the next patch.
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as far as re-arming and repairing is concerned, I also happen to believe that it would be more realistic if helis had to land for that too....shortah wrote:
That could possibly be the stupidest thing I've read today... What would the point of having to land to rearm be, that would take the entire point of mobile rearming out of the game... like heli's you don't have to land to rearm, you can hover 20 feet above the heli-pad, and be rearmed and repaired, or I could hover above a supply box and do the same thing. Forcing a plane to land to rearm would require entirely to much effort on EA's part. Think about the planes take about 5-7 of deaccelerating before you notice it enough to land on the aircraft or runaway now, and the only planes that it is possible to land with is the f-35, because essentially its a harrier. And personally I think that the AA is strong enough as it is, they need to make them slower, but more accurate. I mean even through the upgrade, thats one of the things a skilled pilot will be able to do, is DODGE MISSLES. It is possible. It happens in real life. PILOTS DODGE MISSLES. GET USE TO IT. What I do think they should do is give airplanes only 1 set of flares... and in order to get another set you ahve to rearm. kinda of like the bombs.. so If you ahve someone on your tail.. and you use them stupidly.. oh well.. ya just screwed yourself. As a heli pilot I have definately noticed that the AA is more accurate and def. does more damage. But it makes the pilots get better. So don't get pissed when pilots start bein extremely sneaky, like I have.B.Schuss wrote:
I also agree that planes should need to land before being able to repair and re-arm. Hopefully, EA addresses that in the next patch.
This is just my 2 cents.
But then, it's a game, and realism has its limitations. Ultimately, we will have to cope with whatever EA comes up with. Mobile rearming/repairing is not a god-given thing, it is a concept implemented by EA and can be taken away. But I doubt it will happen.
I'm not saying a skilled pilot shouldn't be able to dodge missiles, btw. I'm simply saying the ratio of AA missiles fired to actual hits is weird, at least to my observation.
peace
That's about what its worth too ...just kidding.shortah wrote:
This is just my 2 cents.
I like the one set of flares idea, and while I agree that it should be difficult to hit a plane with AA, it should not be all that hard to hit a helicopter. There are times when I've got a lock on a chopper that just used its flares so can't do so again. I fire the two missiles and they just plain miss. You think those choppers could dodge missiles the way an fighter jet could?
Also, IMHO "in real life" has less to do with this game that people think. How many people do you know that can sprint with 40 lbs of equipment then "bunnyhop" for another half-mile. This game is built to be "relatively" realistic. The AA guns are pretty much useless against planes because their range is too short for something moving as fast as the planes do. I lessening the fog a bit and extending the range of the AA guns would help.
Jet maps are where people who get owned by tanks in karkand can get revenge.
One word to all those complaining:
ADAPT
ADAPT
amenjag1973 wrote:
One word to all those complaining:
ADAPT
If they just made the current in-game AA even fractionally effective that would help some. As it is now, unless the pilot is a total noob you stand a better chance of shooting a plane down with a shotgun than with a Stinger or other missile.
Agree!Greenie_Beazinie wrote:
Jet maps are where people who get owned by tanks in karkand can get revenge.
BTT: I fly a lot of time...everytime its possible.
I bomb the enemy to hell if theres no hostile jet or bomber, IN ORDER to motivate anybody to challenge me in the sky. Thats the fun for me. But a lot of people just start kickvotes for the whole maptime. This foolish behaviour is just a proof of less skill in a plane. That might sound very silly, but if you are pissed off, because of this dumb **** in the sky, LEARN how to fly. Time for revenge!
Just my 2 little cameltoes
I CAN fly, but I just don't want to get caught up in a stupid 'THATS MY JET' 'NO ITS MINE' 'STFU ITS MINE' kinda thing where everyone sits and waits for the jets or helos to spawn.
Anyhow, I killed a BH with my tank a minute ago. That makes me feel so much better...
Anyhow, I killed a BH with my tank a minute ago. That makes me feel so much better...
Personally, I love aircraft. I love flying around and bombing the living hell outta stuff. And while, yes, planes (mainly the bombers) are very powerful, it's not always that easy to use them. What I'm getting at is that for me and many of my friends, it's hard to fly a plane and get anything better than a 4:1 kill to teamkill ratio (mainly because vehicles that your allies have just jumped out of show up as hostile targets half the time). Plus, if the enemy fighter is in the air, it's almost no contest against your slower, less manuverable bomber. I have 131 total teamkills, I'd estimate that 110 of those are from accidentally killing an ally by a bomb (and probably 98% of the allies you hit punish you for the teamkill).
hmm.. Well I might agree but then again.. even thou this isnt excatly the topic here I would say the artilleri is a bigger issue.. I hate commanders just bombing the same spot over and over again.. more irritating when it is the main base..
artilleri is nice thou dont get me wrong.. but maybe some more time between the times u can bomb or some other restrains for it..
artilleri is nice thou dont get me wrong.. but maybe some more time between the times u can bomb or some other restrains for it..
The jets in this game is what makes it what it is!! Lets take fushe pass 64 player size. China gets j-10 (best aircraft in the game) Us gets the f-18 (not to shabby). These two planes very fast, they only have two bombs, and some missiles. Now with these planes flying as fast as they do, taking out helis, or another plane, is probally in my opion the hardest thing to do in this game. It take a lot of practice, and a lot of skill!! Any joe-schmoe can get in a tank and get lucky, or do the c4 car thing and be a noob.
So before you all go and return your game to walmart, why don't you think about getting in a plane and shooting the other one down. It can be extremly hard!! But possible. lol Joystick from bestbuy or whatever, and start practicing, and stop bitching, planes own!!!
PP
So before you all go and return your game to walmart, why don't you think about getting in a plane and shooting the other one down. It can be extremly hard!! But possible. lol Joystick from bestbuy or whatever, and start practicing, and stop bitching, planes own!!!
PP
I am a ground pounder myself and this is insane. If u have to stop to reload an airplane, think of this.
Everyone gets revived and starts running around like they never got hit. Medics heal wounds in seconds. Support throws bags down and ALL ur ammo is filled, not just the weapon ur holding. U would have to change everything if u want to change one thing. It is a game overall and i get blown up quite abit. U have to look at it from both sides of the coin. Aviators will have a say about it too.
I have a Joystick and am going aviator soon. With PP showin me the ropes and me just getting up there. I just suck in the air and crash into every known obstacle when i try to lock onto something.
My 2 cents
Everyone gets revived and starts running around like they never got hit. Medics heal wounds in seconds. Support throws bags down and ALL ur ammo is filled, not just the weapon ur holding. U would have to change everything if u want to change one thing. It is a game overall and i get blown up quite abit. U have to look at it from both sides of the coin. Aviators will have a say about it too.
I have a Joystick and am going aviator soon. With PP showin me the ropes and me just getting up there. I just suck in the air and crash into every known obstacle when i try to lock onto something.
My 2 cents
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hey, sure its annoying when a bomb drops on you during an attack. but sometimes the bomb drops on someone else. if i see a bomb falling towards a tank i just lie down and wait for it to hit him, cos i'm a engineer. i just think better him than me. planes can be annoying but most people who get killed by them are just putting themselves in harm's way. there are ways to avoid getting killed by them, but if you drive down the centre of the road in a tank then of course he will aim for you, he isnt stupid
The f-18 is the worst fighter in the game. the j-10 rapes it.=KHA=Pryvate_Pyle wrote:
The jets in this game is what makes it what it is!! Lets take fushe pass 64 player size. China gets j-10 (best aircraft in the game) Us gets the f-18 (not to shabby). These two planes very fast, they only have two bombs, and some missiles. Now with these planes flying as fast as they do, taking out helis, or another plane, is probally in my opion the hardest thing to do in this game. It take a lot of practice, and a lot of skill!! Any joe-schmoe can get in a tank and get lucky, or do the c4 car thing and be a noob.
So before you all go and return your game to walmart, why don't you think about getting in a plane and shooting the other one down. It can be extremly hard!! But possible. lol Joystick from bestbuy or whatever, and start practicing, and stop bitching, planes own!!!
PP
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the most popular map in BF2 is the one with 0 aircraft. Hmmm wonder why? Planes and choppers ruin a good ground battle. Effective AA is almost nonexistant. I hope future maps will concentrat on ground action and leave out the Aircraft altogether. Another possible twist would be some maps with no artillary.
exactly, its hard to land f-18s on a carrier, but i have done it multiple times before, practice, whenever my f-18 is damaged on wake island, screw flyin over the carrier, i land and show off a little that ive done it (cough) people are amazed but its simple. i dont want to spoil any secrets...
Or arty can only be called in by someone on site, make the arty manned like ground defense, and have to use coordinates like real arty.FrontRunner91 wrote:
Another possible twist would be some maps with no artillary.
You keep showing off your bad self, if you land your plane, or even slow down, I WILL KILL YOU!!! Why land, it repairs when you pass it. If you need major repairs fly slower, landing is so dumb, you open to attacks.Miller wrote:
exactly, its hard to land f-18s on a carrier, but i have done it multiple times before, practice, whenever my f-18 is damaged on wake island, screw flyin over the carrier, i land and show off a little that ive done it (cough) people are amazed but its simple. i dont want to spoil any secrets...
So miller what server do you play on, I'll make sure you never land a plane again......lmao
Slidero, get in an j-10 i'll get into a f-18, I will own it. The 18 has all the qualities that the j-10 does, if it gets owned its pilot error. Fact!! The wing span on the 18 is longer so it doesn't turn as fast as a j-10, but it can hang. Just be creative in the air. "hey mav, lets see some of that pilot shit" Goose, TOP GUN.slidero wrote:
The f-18 is the worst fighter in the game. the j-10 rapes it.=KHA=Pryvate_Pyle wrote:
The jets in this game is what makes it what it is!! Lets take fushe pass 64 player size. China gets j-10 (best aircraft in the game) Us gets the f-18 (not to shabby). These two planes very fast, they only have two bombs, and some missiles. Now with these planes flying as fast as they do, taking out helis, or another plane, is probally in my opion the hardest thing to do in this game. It take a lot of practice, and a lot of skill!! Any joe-schmoe can get in a tank and get lucky, or do the c4 car thing and be a noob.
So before you all go and return your game to walmart, why don't you think about getting in a plane and shooting the other one down. It can be extremly hard!! But possible. lol Joystick from bestbuy or whatever, and start practicing, and stop bitching, planes own!!!
PP
Stingers and IGLA's need a 10% speed increase and 10% faster turn rate.
i believe that is all thats needed.
i believe that is all thats needed.
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