BF2S Forums comments on the no vehicles mode

BFROE|IndianScout wrote:

They would like comments on no vehicles mode from people who have actually played it,

They are looking for people who are not just ranting but have informed opinion based on gameplay.

thanks..

Indian

how do you get in ROE?

this is constuctive??

please they want comments on the no vehicle option not the ROE..

This is a serious question and needs your constructive help.

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Thanks Indian for taking the time to consult our forum. Hope this emphasis will help. Alas, I haven't played it, but I am sure others here did; make sure to have look in the patch chatter section.

Cheers,
R

Lighten up geez.

I think it sounds OK but the idea of having 3 grenades chucked at your feet and not dying is pathetic, 1 nade should finish anyone off.

well I understand everyones concern about the ROE and yes it is being updated..

I was tasked to get feedback to help get this 1.4 patch no vehicle mode

so thanks for the feedback,  keep it coming..

DoctorFruitloop wrote:

As said, why should removing the vehicles make people more survivable against grenade, C4 and pretty much anything else?

I would love to see this answered ASAP.

Make it normal BF2 with some light jeeps. All the current problems of infantry only=solved. Nobody wanted anything like higher hitpoints so why did they put it in?

DrunkFace wrote:

From the videos ive seen, its looks stupid.

How about 'no vehicles' is just that, everything the same except no vehicles. Same health, same stamina, samenumber of clips, same accuracy, same maps, same EVERYTHING except vehicles. The other thing is you should not be able to have the option with 'carrier' maps. Its completly unfair to those that have to get to the mainland via water.

I second that. There is no need IMHO to have different health, sprint or damage models for the "no vehicles" mode. It should be just that: No Vehicles.

People shouldn't take more or less damage just because there are no Cobras on the map.
The RoE most likely won't have to be changed, I think. Wasn't "no vehicles" supposed to be unranked only ?

After all, would a mode like that not threaten the integrity of the stats system ?

The main problem is the boosted soldier HP. It should just be infantry only like B.Schuss says but no boosted hitpoints.

They need to just leave everything the way it was- just take away the tanks/helis/jets.  Nobody wanted increased armor and stamina, so why add it?!?!

While I have not had a chance to play with it yet I think that Infantry mode should not be added as a ranked mode for the current stats system.  I think it should be added as a seperate stats set.

Here are some of the points that I would like to be considered (not for or against infantry mode just things to think about):

-- Playing with out vehicals will inflate peoples stats that are not good at dealing with vehicals( just as people who can't deal with planes play karkand only or Knife & Pistol servers)

-- Some kit gear has no use or less use with out vehicles, for example AT mines and AT rockets( while the later still can and is used on infantry).

-- Removal of boats will make some maps unbalanced because of swimming from the essex or an island into gunfire will be statpadding for the other team(some affected maps are: Gulf of Oman, Operation Clean Sweep, Dalian Plant, Wake Island 2007, Iron Gator). 

-- How will it change how people try to get certian awards( will they be easier on infantry only).  The knife badge would be my first example, but they removed the IAR requirement, so the Expert Pistol badge is the example.  With 20 people on 64 player map and with out the 8 or so players in tanks and APCs, it will be easier to get the Expert Pistol badge.

-- All of the Vehicle/AA - badges/ribons/medals will be imposible in this mode of play.  Yes on some maps you can't get all the badges... but this is a much larger portion for the whole mode of play.


I think that hit points should stay the same, but increasing sprint duration is needed.  Distance you can fall before reciving damage sould be increased along with the distance it takes to open a parachute.

There's too much walking on larger maps even with the increased stamina. You'd have to at least keep transports, ie. jeeps., boats and blackhawk etc. or it makes the air maps completely boring.

I don't like the increased hitpoints. I understand the reason is to slow down the rate of points so that regular BF2 isn't abandoned but it just creates more problems. A better solution would be to decrease the points given for kills on infantry only or to increase the points given for kills on regular BF2 in order to level it out.

And bring back squad hopping. It takes forever to get to the action. Squad hopping kept the firefights going. It's harder to assault flags when the defender can continuously spawn right there and yet attacker has to walk forever to get back into it. Being a squadleader is boring just laying around being a green dot on the map. Mayber even make tranport vehicles a mobile spawn point instead.

Last edited by M1-Lightning (2006-07-10 12:22:37)