BF2S Forums What do expert helo pilots do when lame gunners are abound?

mad scotsman wrote:

if your an expert heli pilot, lame gunners make no difference

qft

Well, unless you're up against a good tv gunner. Thats really the only thing that would suck no matter how good a pilot you are.

Last edited by PRiMACORD (2006-07-18 09:14:55)

I'm not a good pilot myself but I'm a very good gunner. I can shoot TV misssles presisly while gunner is doing stunts I just need them to keep nose in right position.


I personally do TK on extremes. Like once on MEC there was this gun wanting to be gunner. he was tking to get gunner. and he sucked! i was killing no one. The pilot was begging for someone to take his place. He was giving him clear shots and don't even shoot tv missles. he tries shooting down tanks with gun. so I tked after they died for the sake of the team.

I met a lot of noob pilots. Pilots who just sit there not moving giving enemy a clear shot with tank missle or AT Missle. Pilots who can't give clear shots. Pilots who crash 1 second later. Pilots who didn't even know there Helipad Repairs the Heli!!!!!!!!




TK is bad but sometimes its the only solution

XstrangerdangerX wrote:

PRiMACORD wrote:

XstrangerdangerX wrote:

Wait, here's something good chopper users will recognise..

why is it that people who are new to the chopper think that flying along the ground really fast is the best way to fly? I know I used to do it just to prove I could handle the thing but it is rarely if ever effective.

I fly low. Works great.

You restrict your field of view when you do so , and I'll get you (almost) every time.

With what, a TV missile? I don't fly low knowing there is a good TV pilot around, but i will after i kill him

Obviously there are times to fly low and times to fly high, most of the time i'm down low but of course it depends on whats going on in the battlefield. I'm not gonna fly low knowing there is a TV missile stalking me.

Last edited by PRiMACORD (2006-07-18 16:42:03)

XstrangerdangerX wrote:

PRiMACORD wrote:

XstrangerdangerX wrote:

Wait, here's something good chopper users will recognise..

why is it that people who are new to the chopper think that flying along the ground really fast is the best way to fly? I know I used to do it just to prove I could handle the thing but it is rarely if ever effective.

I fly low. Works great.

You restrict your field of view when you do so , and I'll get you (almost) every time.

I beg your pardon.
would you XstrangerdangerX(K/D Helo: 2.4) get PRiMACORD(K/D Helo= 5.9) "(almost) every time"?
The odds is against you my friend, and do consider that he has about 340 hours more in helo time then you.

To fly high means that you will be seen by almost everyone and be engaged by their fire.
To fly low mean that you don't have to care so much about enemy helos and planes, they tend to not see you.
Helos are dangerous but with a quick pull on your joystick and launch a missile will kill them.
The tanks, mobil-AA and cars will still be dangerous but you can easily put an object like an house in-between you and them and the treat is no more, up high you don't have that option.


There is a reason why Helos operate like this in the real life, and launch their missiles from behind cover or just do a quick pickaboo launch and then take cover again.
Try to use the strategy that’s out there and you'll see how good they actually works



/Toxic

joker3327 wrote:

Afrika_18 wrote:

There's a utility that comes with the hack I use, and it allows me to just eject the gunner (I use it a lot cause I like to fly solo anyway...)

What a waste of a game.....if you cant play fairly without hacking why play???

Put the game back in the box and get it on Ebay ....and go play in the sand box with the other 13 year olds

Smell that bitch?

That's Joker's spore........................... pwnt!

ROFL!

T0xicboy wrote:

XstrangerdangerX wrote:

PRiMACORD wrote:

I fly low. Works great.

You restrict your field of view when you do so , and I'll get you (almost) every time.

I beg your pardon.
would you XstrangerdangerX(K/D Helo: 2.4) get PRiMACORD(K/D Helo= 5.9) "(almost) every time"?
The odds is against you my friend, and do consider that he has about 340 hours more in helo time then you.

To fly high means that you will be seen by almost everyone and be engaged by their fire.
To fly low mean that you don't have to care so much about enemy helos and planes, they tend to not see you.
Helos are dangerous but with a quick pull on your joystick and launch a missile will kill them.
The tanks, mobil-AA and cars will still be dangerous but you can easily put an object like an house in-between you and them and the treat is no more, up high you don't have that option.


There is a reason why Helos operate like this in the real life, and launch their missiles from behind cover or just do a quick pickaboo launch and then take cover again.
Try to use the strategy that’s out there and you'll see how good they actually works



/Toxic

Actually XRogerMellieX is my chopper account, made after I got the hang of choppers... and every one of those kills is made solo. So I believe my opinion should carry some weight.

As primacord said, there are situations where you should fly low and situations where you should fly high. And as I'm one of the good tv pilots primacord speaks of, he would need to be very careful, because if I'm at 300 feet he cannot see me, and for me it's a simple leftswing and two clicks away from his death.

Primacord, no offence to your obvious abilities, but are any of your chopper kills from the old flying tank days of the blackhawks? I wish I was there then, I wouldn't find it so hard to progress into the top 100 then.

Cheers all.

XstrangerdangerX wrote:

Primacord, no offence to your obvious abilities, but are any of your chopper kills from the old flying tank days of the blackhawks? I wish I was there then, I wouldn't find it so hard to progress into the top 100 then.

Don't quite understand the question, are you asking if i used the old blackhawk to get many of my kills? If yes then no. My KDR has gone up considerably since those days as i'm now a much better pilot then i was. The way choppers used to be doesn't help me at all. I do miss those 14 rocket pods tho

T0xicboy wrote:

XstrangerdangerX wrote:

Actually XRogerMellieX is my chopper account, made after I got the hang of choppers... and every one of those kills is made solo. So I believe my opinion should carry some weight.

As primacord said, there are situations where you should fly low and situations where you should fly high. And as I'm one of the good tv pilots primacord speaks of, he would need to be very careful, because if I'm at 300 feet he cannot see me, and for me it's a simple leftswing and two clicks away from his death.

Primacord, no offence to your obvious abilities, but are any of your chopper kills from the old flying tank days of the blackhawks? I wish I was there then, I wouldn't find it so hard to progress into the top 100 then.

Cheers all.

XRogerMellieX


Impressive, that’s way above average.
But I found a thing that seem a little bit strange.

You say that every one of the kills was made in soloflight. How come you have 348 points in driver score?
I guess that your MG gunner in the tank must be a hell of a killer, with 100 kills every hour you have spent in the tank.
Naaa, I guess that wasn’t really true that every one of the kills was in soloflight, I’m right aren’t I?
And if you had a gunner in your helo without wanting to tell us then I guess that you haven’t been flying all the time, a good amount of your helo kills are made as the gunner, right?

Anyway, your scores are impressive even with a gunner or being one, so don’t be afraid to say that.
I hope that your score are as impressive when you also have passed 30 hour in a helo.


/Toxic

Okay, you're right, there may have been the odd gunner or two ([rd]Noobie-Run you sexy bitch), so let's say that the majority of those chopper kills were solo. Very very few of my kills are as a gunner, this I promise. I find that very few people can pilot well, they simply ground hug, cap flags and have a draw distance of 30 feet. So I fly a lot, and am very good with rockets (slow-planes choppers and tanks, no one is an innocent).

And I'm working hard on getting as high in the world chopper ranks as possible, I'd just like to keep it above 4 KDR and get my hours up. Annoying thing is I have to be very careful what servers I join. I don't want 64 or I'll never get the chopper. I don't want to join a server with freaks like oxycontin_are_de, so I look for 30 on 64 with no recognisable names. So it may be kind of cheap, but I have wasted plenty of excellent chopper users (DOGMARTA, ossiesniper to name two).

Way to deflate my bravado. You've got to be the most reasonable and decent forum user I've come across in a long while. Cheers to you and apologies for my dick-swinging.

PrImacord wrote:

Don't quite understand the question, are you asking if i used the old blackhawk to get many of my kills? If yes then no. My KDR has gone up considerably since those days as i'm now a much better pilot then i was. The way choppers used to be doesn't help me at all. I do miss those 14 rocket pods tho sad

Okay cool. I know that world number 6 and Australian number 1 {ARK}DJJeffro got to his position primarily from the old days of solo-blackhawking across mashtuur (steer, fire, repair, steer, fire, repair). And in that case mate, that's a phenomenal KDR for choppers and I will now never ever join a server with you on it

Last edited by XstrangerdangerX (2006-07-19 08:01:33)

Im a decent enough pilot and a slightly better gunner, given a good line up by the pilot I can hit helo's, tanks, jeep's etc and sometimes the odd jet.
However finding a pilot who understands, or if your pilot a gunner who will look at a situation, fire fast, got for AA first etc etc etc etc is so hard.
With a good line up it should take 1-2seconds(max) before there's a missile on its way to a target!.
If my gunner or pilot arn rubbish and don't want to improve I just either pick someone else up or don't get in with them again.

I understand you can bend the path of the TV missles, my problem is when I'm flying with someone who won't bring the target into my view.  Drives me up the wall....

meh...i cant TV for fuck cuz the black n white screen lags then shit out of me...much less guiding it

If you dont know how to line a target up, have a look at my guide, its all there, click my sig

so called 1337 pilots wrote:

If he is horribly horrible. I fly to the edge of the map and get the gunner out of the map while im safely inside on the border and the guy gets killed for abanadoning the battle . If he can hit something I give him a chance and hope next time il get a better gunner.

what a dick. not everyone is that great. im fucking horrible in helos, gunning and piloting. tell him to get out, and if he doesnt, deal with him. if ur so 1337, u dont need a good gunner.

that goes for everyone who has that mentality.

Last edited by Des.Kmal (2006-07-19 10:10:42)