Remove Artillery!

2006-07-21 13:45:53

#1

Talon: Stop reading this and look at my post; +341|7327

Pluses: Can save flags, can destroy armor, stops the enemy performing mass attacks

Negatives: Stops you capturing flags when you've taken out everyone there and deserve to. Any large, army-size teamwork gets destroyed by artillery. Baseraping and trapping enemies inside a last base is also possible. Teamkills often happen.

Personally I think it should be eliminated (or at least a server option). The amount of teamkilling, baseraping and work destroyed by artillery is ridiculous. Patch 1.3 roughly doubled the recharge time, which helped a lot, but it still needs to go. On smaller maps such as SF ones, the Artillery cover area is huge. On maps with jets, if 2 jets and a commander concentrate on a single target the target has no hope whatsoever.

For those who say that commanders need something to shoot with, a pair of laser or TV guided missiles that were shot from the UAV would be a much better idea, allowing a good commander to take out at most two tanks to support his team.

2006-07-21 13:47:03

#2

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7283

tahts against the ROE@!>?@@@ indianscout is gonna report you for having this idea!!

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2006-07-21 13:47:48

#3

[n00b]Tyler: Banned; +505|7161|Iceland

ye Arty is a fucking pain, Let ppl fire the arty

2006-07-21 13:47:52

#4

Mouse315: Bash.org Junkie; +105|7087

I have no issues with artillery. If it is coming down, get to cover. Also, a dedicated spec ops can keep the artillery down indefinately, which should be included in any team-scaled co-operation.

2006-07-21 13:49:14

#5

DrunkFace: Germans did 911; +427|7248|Disaster Free Zone

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
tahts against the ROE@!>?@@@ indianscout is gonna report you for having this idea!!

your a fucking moron. STFU about the ROE and just play the game.

Artys fine if used intelligently by commanders.

Last edited by DrunkFace (2006-07-21 13:50:22)

2006-07-21 13:49:35

#6

Defiance: Member; +438|7238

Guess what! You can destroy the arty! Now quit whining and get to C4ing!

DrunkFace wrote:
cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
tahts against the ROE@!>?@@@ indianscout is gonna report you for having this idea!!
your a fucking moron. STFU about the ROE and just play the game.

QFE.

Last edited by Defiance (2006-07-21 13:50:49)

2006-07-21 13:50:30

#7

Battlefield2Player: Ak-101 Addict; +98|7099

Just remove artillery completely. I couldn't begin to explain how frustrating it is to be the last player on your team, open clear area (no armor, helicopters, infantry, etc.), two seconds away from capping the flag, and

BAAAAAAAAMMMM!

enemycommander [ Artillery ] You

2006-07-21 13:51:30

#8

Defiance: Member; +438|7238

Battlefield2Player wrote:
Just remove artillery completely. I couldn't begin to explain how frustrating it is to be the last player on your team, open clear area (no armor, helicopters, infantry, etc.), two seconds away from capping the flag, and

BAAAAAAAAMMMM!

enemycommander [ Artillery ] You

Then your team sucks ass and maybe you should find a different server?

Or you could be proud that you almost capped the flag, and you did better then the other 31 dead shitheads on your team.

Emm k?

2006-07-21 13:52:47

#9

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7283

no arty would own though

2006-07-21 13:53:00

#10

RDMC: Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!; +736|7132|Area 51

Sure lets make it even harder for the Armor on Karkand, or on Wake
Damn, why does everthing when it kills you, be removed?
Go play UT if you don't like Artillery
Sorry man, but damn.. stop the whining about remove this, nerf this, nerf that, remove that, add this,

And U say let the Commander have a tv missle on the UAV
This will mean massive Commander Hogging
And even worse, commander will stop concentrating on actual commanding, and start blasting away..
No thnx

Last edited by RDMC(2) (2006-07-21 13:55:53)

2006-07-21 13:54:49

#11

SteikeTa: Member; +153|7314|Norway/Norwegen/ Norge/Noruega

Defiance wrote:
Guess what! You can destroy the arty! Now quit whining and get to C4ing!

DrunkFace wrote:
cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
tahts against the ROE@!>?@@@ indianscout is gonna report you for having this idea!!
your a fucking moron. STFU about the ROE and just play the game.
QFE.

qfe?

2006-07-21 13:54:52

#12

Defiance: Member; +438|7238

RDMC(2) wrote:
Sure lets make it even harder for the Armor on Karkand, or on Wake
Damn, why does everthing when it kills you, be removed?
Go play UT if you don't like Artillery
Sorry man, but damn.. stop the whining about remove this, nerf this, nerf that, remove that, add this,

Agreed.

People like this fucked over the blackhawk! Burn them at the stake!

DrunkFace wrote:
qfe?

Quoted for Emphasis. It means I agree, but I'm too lazy to type it all out even though I just did and then some.

Last edited by Defiance (2006-07-21 13:56:02)

2006-07-21 13:56:31

#13

Bernadictus: Moderator; +1,055|7304

Another bright idea! *Lightbulb* Remove Talon from these here forums. That's not against the R.O.E.

2006-07-21 13:57:34

#14

Defiance: Member; +438|7238

Bernadictus wrote:
Another bright idea! *Lightbulb* Remove Talon from these here forums. That's not against the R.O.E.

Don't worry, cyborg says it is and that's all that matters...

2006-07-21 13:58:08

#15

Talon: Stop reading this and look at my post; +341|7327

RDMC(2) wrote:
Sure lets make it even harder for the Armor on Karkand, or on Wake
Damn, why does everthing when it kills you, be removed?
Go play UT if you don't like Artillery
Sorry man, but damn.. stop the whining about remove this, nerf this, nerf that, remove that, add this,

And U say let the Commander have a tv missle on the UAV
This will mean massive Commander Hogging
And even worse, commander will stop concentrating on actual commanding, and start blasting away..
No thnx

Notied Anti-Tank is your second least played kit.

Also you might want to try playing maps other than Karkand, where it takes more than 5 seconds to find someone. Try driving across Dragon Valley to cap a flag, and getting artied.

Funny how all the arty likers have Karkand as most played map...

@blackhawk: Never complained about that. They should have just made the other choppers better...

Last edited by Talon (2006-07-21 13:59:44)

2006-07-21 13:58:33

#16

-GR33NS-: Member; +10|7067|KILLA KALI

Yet, another senseless thread with shitty opinions. Face the Facts.

2006-07-21 13:59:41

#17

jord: Member; +2,382|7245|The North, beyond the wall.

It should be a server option.

That would be good,people could choose which one they wanted.

2006-07-21 14:00:22

#18

Defiance: Member; +438|7238

Talon wrote:
Notied Anti-Tank is your second least played kit.

Also you might want to try playing maps other than Karkand, where it takes more than 5 seconds to find someone. Try driving across Dragon Valley to cap a flag, and getting artied.

@blackhawk: Never complained about that. They should have just made the other choppers better...

Why does it matter that he doesn't play AT alot? How is that relevant?

If you drive across dragon valley to cap a flag and get artied, you need to find a better place to cap the flag. I've survived countless arty strikes with a little thing called intelligence.

jord wrote:
It should be a server option.

That would be good,people could choose which one they wanted.

And here come the comprimisers...

At this point everything should be a server option Shitty guns, shitty helis and shitty noob players. *Check*

Last edited by Defiance (2006-07-21 14:01:05)

2006-07-21 14:00:32

#19

RDMC: Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!; +736|7132|Area 51

Talon wrote:
RDMC(2) wrote:
Sure lets make it even harder for the Armor on Karkand, or on Wake
Damn, why does everthing when it kills you, be removed?
Go play UT if you don't like Artillery
Sorry man, but damn.. stop the whining about remove this, nerf this, nerf that, remove that, add this,

And U say let the Commander have a tv missle on the UAV
This will mean massive Commander Hogging
And even worse, commander will stop concentrating on actual commanding, and start blasting away..
No thnx
Notied Anti-Tank is your second least played kit.

Also you might want to try playing maps other than Karkand, where it takes more than 5 seconds to find someone. Try driving across Dragon Valley to cap a flag, and getting artied.

@blackhawk: Never complained about that. They should have just made the other choppers better...

@ Talon, you might want to STFU, since resent days I've only played AT and Assault, And have been playing SF

And even so, in Karkand, out of the 350 hours
I've only played maybe 50 hours in armor, and at most 50 hours as commander,

2006-07-21 14:00:51

#20

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7283

jord wrote:
It should be a server option.

That would be good,people could choose which one they wanted.

lol but the ROE restricted that if they took it off the ROE then no arty galore

2006-07-21 14:01:32

#21

The_Jester: Member; +52|7058|Italy

No, but deaths by arty should not count.

EDIT: ticket lost for the team anyway, but should not count in the personal kd ratio

Last edited by The_Jester (2006-07-21 14:02:24)

2006-07-21 14:02:12

#22

Battlefield2Player: Ak-101 Addict; +98|7099

Defiance wrote:
Battlefield2Player wrote:
Just remove artillery completely. I couldn't begin to explain how frustrating it is to be the last player on your team, open clear area (no armor, helicopters, infantry, etc.), two seconds away from capping the flag, and

BAAAAAAAAMMMM!

enemycommander [ Artillery ] You
Then your team sucks ass and maybe you should find a different server?

Or you could be proud that you almost capped the flag, and you did better then the other 31 dead shitheads on your team.

Emm k?

Going for your expert flame badge or what?

Defiance wrote:
Then your team sucks ass and maybe you should find a different server?

If that's the case, I'm always on the team that "sucks ass". Anyhow, that's just my opinion, and I think you made it clear yours is different.

Last edited by Battlefield2Player (2006-07-21 14:02:35)

2006-07-21 14:02:40

#23

Defiance: Member; +438|7238

Why can't people just deal with it? You all think your so fucking important that game devs are going to remove a big part of the experience out just for you.

Go jack off or something, you all stain the bf2 community.

Battlefield2Player wrote:
Defiance wrote:
Battlefield2Player wrote:
Just remove artillery completely. I couldn't begin to explain how frustrating it is to be the last player on your team, open clear area (no armor, helicopters, infantry, etc.), two seconds away from capping the flag, and

BAAAAAAAAMMMM!

enemycommander [ Artillery ] You
Then your team sucks ass and maybe you should find a different server?

Or you could be proud that you almost capped the flag, and you did better then the other 31 dead shitheads on your team.

Emm k?
Going for your expert flame badge or what?

Defiance wrote:
Then your team sucks ass and maybe you should find a different server?
If that's the case, I'm always on the team that "sucks ass". Anyhow, that's just my opinion, and I think you made it clear yours is different.

I'm not flaming you, I'm saying you should look for a better team that doesn't lose.

And still, be proud because of your constant membership on the "bad" team you stay alive the longest. GG.

Last edited by Defiance (2006-07-21 14:03:42)

2006-07-21 14:12:12

#24

No_Smoking: all your base are belong to us; +35|7263|Sacramento

They should just limit it to two to three uses per round. I think that would be a good compromise.

2006-07-21 14:16:55

#25

RDMC: Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!; +736|7132|Area 51

No_Smoking wrote:
They should just limit it to two to three uses per round. I think that would be a good compromise.

That would mean that the Arty would still be useless,

did u know that the arty was there for a reason? To like stop massive attacks and protect flags, and off course attack them

Well, picture this, u have used the arty 3 times allready to stop the massive attacks on Karkand, (just to use as an example, since of the massive attacks there) Now u got a stupid team which doesnt want to listen to ur orders and only defends the hotel,
Now u do a scan, and find a Humvee heading for Suburbs,
Ur team doesnt listen to you, and you cant arty it,
We lost control of Suburbs outpost
The enemy has taken control of Suburbs

Damn, and another flag is gone,
Next up Train Accident

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Yes	22%	22% - 29
No	63%	63% - 83
Yes, and Replace with UAV Missiles (see below)	14%	14% - 19
Total: 131

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