Doktorbob
Member
+26|6942
First Question:
I have a question for you.  I have earned the Expert Engineering badges.  Both of them.  They were in my account for several weeks.  I could see them on BF2S and in my awards section of the game.  However, it seems that my Expert Engineer Badge has disappeared.  Now it only shows that I have the Veteran Engineer Badge.  That really blows as I worked hard for that one!  Spent hours repairing and getting owned during the process.  Is this a normal thing to lose awards that we have earned and posted in our accounts?

Second Question:
Also, I have earned several other badges during game play.  Due to the 1.3 crashes, I have LOST many of them due to the crashes. I will be in a game fragging away and get a notice that I won a ribbon or badge.  Then all of the sudden 1.3 causes a server crash.  Watching cars fly around and other objects appear to lose gravity.  Ouch!  Because of this I have actually earned some badges and ribbons two or three times. Has this happened to you and is there anything we can do about winning these awards and getting credit for them due to server crashes?

Further thoughts. 
I am fairly new to BF2.  Jumped into the game April 1, 2006.  I jumped in and was thrashing around and learning my characters.  However, after I found out that we earn medals, ribbons and badges I find myself NOT having as much fun.  I catch myself saying "I should play the medic because in 50 more hours I get a badge." I don't know.  It seemed more fun when I was naive and simple minded about the game.  Now I read about squad jumping other player "tricks" to get more scoring points.  Now it makes sense to see people jumping in and out of my squads.  One time I was a squad leader with no one in my squad.  I was in an MEC tank owning the USMC in Sharqi.  Next thing I know I have a full squad!  Duh...I must have earned over 100 points and won three ribbons.  (These were the very same ribbons I earned on another server that crashed and lost them because the game did not end before the crash.)  I see other anomalies during game play but that would be too much to write here.

You have to keep in mind that I am 51 years old.  I don't have the reflexes like younger folks.  Nor do I have the dexterity on my $10 keyboard and $12 mouse.  As such, you won't find me standing in line TK'ing others for planes and jets.  Those are awards and badges I will probably never see!

Anyhow, has anyone ever been awarded a a badge, etc, only to have it removed?  (Doktorbob is NOT my player name)
SEREMAKER
BABYMAKIN EXPERT √
+2,187|7022|Mountains of NC

Never heard of this disappearing act with badges - whats your nic in game -
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Doktorbob
Member
+26|6942
EqualOpportunityKill

I was writing down all my future requirements on a Thursday night.  Trying to decide which badge to go for.  Then two days later I noticed that my Expert Engineering Badge had reverted back to Veteran.
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|7081|Warlord

Doktorbob wrote:

Is this a normal thing to lose awards that we have earned and posted in our accounts?
New one on me, be interested in what others have to say.

Doktorbob wrote:

Has this happened to you and is there anything we can do about winning these awards and getting credit for them due to server crashes?
Yes, it's happened to many people. Some servers apparently do send data after a crash, some don't. It may depend on how far the game has gone to some degree but I'm pretty sure it's not just that.

Doktorbob wrote:

Now I read about squad jumping other player "tricks" to get more scoring points.
Squad-hopping, and squad rotating, are no longer possible in the way they were before patch 1.3. Few people can fathom how the change actually makes the game better as it benefited attackers and defenders equally, assuming they were using squads to begin with.

Doktorbob wrote:

You have to keep in mind that I am 51 years old.  I don't have the reflexes like younger folks.  Nor do I have the dexterity on my $10 keyboard and $12 mouse.  As such, you won't find me standing in line TK'ing others for planes and jets.  Those are awards and badges I will probably never see!
If it helps, I just got the Armoured Service Ribbon last night while working on my WLR for Karkand. Normally you'd have to be very lucky to get a chance at the armour but this was a 64-player server (large version of the map) with only about nine or ten guys a side, even less than that at times, so there was almost always an APC or tank available when I died. Plus late at night you might get lucky and find few skilled playerd about; in this game the highest rank on the opposite side was a gunnery sergeant I think and we had a good armour player on my team (nearly 100 points even before I joined) which helped as I tried to play with him as much as I could so we could mutually repair our vehicles.

You could use the same basic idea to get some time in on jets and helos on Wake, Oman, Daqing, Dalian or FuShe.
cheppi
Member
+9|6973|Forest Green Rovers
my sf Armoured service ribbon has vanished in BFHQ but is still on BF2s?????
Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|7020|England

Doktorbob wrote:

EqualOpportunityKill

I was writing down all my future requirements on a Thursday night.  Trying to decide which badge to go for.  Then two days later I noticed that my Expert Engineering Badge had reverted back to Veteran.
Holy crap...you're the guy whos also always on HBD 24/7 Ghosttown You dont have the reactions of us youngies? I watched you rack up 30 something kills earlier and come top of the board! More than once....

Ive never heard of badges disappearing before...thats a good one. Does it appear in BFHQ? Or does it not appear on both BF2s and neither in BFHQ?
Ive had a look on other stats sites, bf2stats.nl and bf2player.com - both show the same veteran engineer badge only.
I can only assume that the stats feed broke or something dodgy was found out about the server, and they somehow took away awards. Did you by any chance get a screenshot of you getting it awarded, or even in your BFHQ at any time?
It has been reported that people get awards in game, and they dont show up on bf2s for whatever reason....but if it doesnt show up in BFHQ, thats a technical problem on the part of EA/DICE.
[L4WD] thealmightygnome
Member
+3|6934|A Cardboard Box, 29a
I got basic sniper 5 times before it showed, and then a sixth time after it did
Psycho
Member since 2005
+44|7230|Kansas, USA
Question 1:
There are some know bugs with the BFHQ that may explain your missing Expert badge. Most notable that there is a limit to the number of ribbons that it will display. however on BF2S it shows that you rec'd you Expert Engineer badge on June 11 - so everything looks fine to me.

Question 2:
Basicall what Todd_Angelo said above, but I have NEVER seen stats from a crashed server show up. But, regardless, if the server has crashed and did not send the data it will never show up.

Additional Thoughts:
The squad hopping has been removed as of patch 1.4, so it shuld not be an issue any longer. I do NOT agree that it benefitted attacking and defending units the same - it benefitted attacking units more. By rotating squad leaders an attacking force could continue attacking idefinitely. Without it a defending force can actually repell an attack.

As for the awards, I disagree. The award system is what makes BF2 as addicting as it is. Without it, this site would not exists - it grew from a project to create a stat retrieval system.
Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|7020|England

Psycho wrote:

Question 1:
There are some know bugs with the BFHQ that may explain your missing Expert badge. Most notable that there is a limit to the number of ribbons that it will display. however on BF2S it shows that you rec'd you Expert Engineer badge on June 11 - so everything looks fine to me.
So that explains why my heli specialist ribbon wont show up in BFHQ at the bottom, yet does in my recent awards...thanks!
So im guessing that my SF service ribbons wont show up either when I earn them....or a WCR if I ever get that far
Doktorbob
Member
+26|6942
Thanks for the compliment Snake.  I love HDB's server as it has fewer rules and the people that play there are really good too.  Admin rocks there too!  Which is rare.   I remember you from that server too and you aint a bad playa either!  You pwned my ass many times...ROFL  I play there as it is a great map and no jets to splash my butt every other second.  It offers a player the ability to play any kit to a good advantage.
Twist
Too old to be doing this sh*t
+103|6977|Little blue planet, milky way
Hmm. Yeah. I know there's a small bug that WILL cuase your ribbons to not show up.. I've never heard of it for badges or medals though. Most notably, getting a vanilla badge/ribbon in SF will frequently cause the thing not to show up in BFHQ when you log in as a vanilla user.
That being said, I have no idea where the "limit" to the nubmer of ribbons is... I have all of my vanilla ribbons (except the one for AF), and none of them are having trouble being displayed.

Earning a badge or ribbon more than once is darned annoying, but sometimes the server just wont update, and in other situations, you will find that the server you played on has been closed down for whatever reason, and you "may" (this is rare, but it DOES happen, presumably if the server has been used for something breaking the RoE) in those cases, you RETROACTIVELY loose points/badges/ribbons.
Earning them again is a pain, but you got 'em once, you can get them again. I admit that the expert engy is a tough one, I spent more time getting that one than I did the expoert explosive, And yeah.. I feel with you about the age and lack of dexterity. However, dude, us older guys have a HUGE adantage over the kids: Our allowance is a LOT larger, so we can go out and buy the hardware that will give us an edge. You'll be amazed at how much easier it is to play the game with a decent mouse/joy/keyboard.

Good luck with your future badge hunting !
Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|7020|England

Doktorbob wrote:

Thanks for the compliment Snake.  I love HDB's server as it has fewer rules and the people that play there are really good too.  Admin rocks there too!  Which is rare.   I remember you from that server too and you aint a bad playa either!  You pwned my ass many times...ROFL  I play there as it is a great map and no jets to splash my butt every other second.  It offers a player the ability to play any kit to a good advantage.
Haha thanks Agreed, its a good server, despite my 100ping on it. The admins are great. Although, I got kicked the other day for getting in an AIL raider and running down 2 teammates...at the start of the round because they jumped onto my fucking vehicle....

I see you aint got your Engi specialist yet...that is very strange. If you wana get it again, get on 24/7 Ghost Town by Bebbi Sachs (or something)...16players on 64size. I got the IP if you want it. Just get a tank and whore it for the whole round. Ive often got 50+ kills in there, tank/APC or chopper.
Twist...Engi is actually quite easy to get. Get a tank and have tank battles. Hit em in the front tracks twice...tank dead. Works every time. Then, head off round the corner and repair. Lots of kills, few deaths and a badge at the end of it
TuataraDude
Member
+115|6977|Aotearoa
I may be pointing out something that has already been checked, but BFHQ generally only shows either SF awards, or Vanilla awards. I had some gaps appear as I switched between them. You can select BF2 or BF2:SF in BFHQ and see if they are there. Mine all were, but I had to look for them.

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