BF2S Forums do you think that the some medal/badges/ribbons req. are to much?

no.  i dont really have a lot of legitimit reasons why, but i think they should set a standard and make ppl adapt to it.  some stuff is hard, but you can focus on the ones that are relevant to you, and let the  8h a day players worry about the 1337 ass badges/ribbons.  thats my opinion, no harm intended.

The only requirement that is to high in my opinion is the 3:1 Win/Loss Ratio for the War College Ribbon as you either have to play in a clan against public match or switch sides if your team is going to loose.

I think the hour requirements for medals are just fine (although I´ll reach them with BF3 release) as the medals should show that you´ve spent a lot of time improving yourself to get them while the ribbons and badges are still quite easy to get for casual gamers.

I think that the badges are definately fine where they are. But then again i'm happy with getting basic everything. I'm not desperate to get advanced in anything (it would take 1500 hours to get all the badges and ribbons minimum if you did several at the same time, this doesn't count medals)

The problem with the medals etc is that the requirements are all redundant.  Anybody with half a brain and 40 hours a week to play can get the medals eventually.  They should contain a broader range of requirements and be geared more towards their classes abilities.

I'm not going to go into a whole long list, but a quick example of what I mean would be the Spec Ops badge requiring x number of strategic asset kills, y number of vehicle kills, along with normal kills.  Sniper should be x% accuracy with sniper rifle, y number of enemy spotting, along with z number of kills etc.

As for the time requirements, they don't bother me too much, the hardcore players need something to strive for, I just wish everything wasn't just x number of kills across the board.

Jodah3 wrote:

The problem with the medals etc is that the requirements are all redundant.  Anybody with half a brain and 40 hours a week to play can get the medals eventually.  They should contain a broader range of requirements and be geared more towards their classes abilities.

I'm not going to go into a whole long list, but a quick example of what I mean would be the Spec Ops badge requiring x number of strategic asset kills, y number of vehicle kills, along with normal kills.  Sniper should be x% accuracy with sniper rifle, y number of enemy spotting, along with z number of kills etc.

As for the time requirements, they don't bother me too much, the hardcore players need something to strive for, I just wish everything wasn't just x number of kills across the board.

i think that's an excellent idea.

Yeah, badges and ribbons should e hard to get. The War College one is a bit tricky, but it will make it more of a reward when you finally get it... before or after BF4 comes out.

I like the sniper accuracy idea. I've wanted to be an excellent sniper just like I used to be in BF1942. My accuracy's somethng like 40%. You reckon that'd be enough our do you reckon 50% is the way to go?

Last edited by Tyferra (2005-11-15 12:35:32)

Tyferra wrote:

Yeah, badges and ribbons should e hard to get. The War College one is a bit tricky, but it will make it more of a reward when you finally get it... before or after BF4 comes out.

I like the sniper accuracy idea. I've wanted to be an excellent sniper just like I used to be in BF1942. My accuracy's somethng like 40%. You reckon that'd be enough our do you reckon 50% is the way to go?

Well, I avoided exact numbers because that was not the point of the post.  I believe the spirit behind being an expert sniper means you should excel at all aspects of the class, one of which would be being accurate with the rifle.

How accurate you would need to be would be determine by lots of data analysis and balance testing (you want it to be challenging enough to make the award prestigious, but not so impossible that you're forced to stat pad for it).

I guess the heart of my complaint is that BF2 supports all of these fantastic stats that are broken down into so many categories, yet 90% of the awards are based on time played + kills.

maybe if they set the I.A.R. standers to a total amount rather then haveing to do so much in 1 single round. A high number would be ok.. I have all but my knife and Ive been trying like a fool to get it  the most Ive had is 2 kills in 1 single game and ive tried most maps doing this. if you can get 100 over all knife kills that sould merit a badge...

I think 100 hours is kinda much. 15 hours is perfect for vet but it should be 30 hours for expert. I think the requirements for next badge should always double the one before it. Like the Good conduct medal is almost exactly double the ribbon.

its not so bad,, the max time for a medal is 250hrs,,, if your average gamer play 10-15hrs a wk is only  25wks to get your medal,,half a yr(bitless),an considering the game has been out for about 5 months now,an the expansion is about to launch,),,i doubt we'll be at bf4(CANT WAIT),,,my self am at 450hr but i consider my self above av player( time wise 8)),so i think there ok, IMHO. 

Now if your talkin badges ( armor,heli,aviator ) then yes, u might have something ,, again IMHO i think they may be high,considering the following,try to get armor Expert(400hrs) u would have to play 24/7 for 16 an abit days,an thats not taking into account loading time ,map switchs that may not have a  certain VEC,an havin to fight for these VEC,,an all the time u get TKed for them,  (max hrs (expert AR400/H400/AV300),(am at 80 some hrs avaitor an 45hrs armor in 5mnths)) , then i think they might be abit much,,an even more , on the above Avg player(time wise),,the AVG player my take 1yr + if u play those Vec 90+% of ur gaming time,,witch is unlikely for the AVG player, an then you may have a point we could b @ BF4(8)),Another thing is the Engineers,,i find that you really need to repair like crazy to get points,,i would lower the time VS points for repair points ( IMHO,again),,.

also i dont have a squad i play w/ on a reg basis, nor do i have my own server,an i generally play on 64 plyr servers,,so IT may be a different Experiance ,for those who do..

CHEERS,an hope to kill you on the battlefield

Last edited by jointop (2005-11-15 13:39:24)

would also like to add, that in my 80+ hrs in aviator am ranked 788  out of what a million ranked players,,,NOW if that doesnt get me an Expert medal i dont know what will.....lmao ,,,,WHERE ME EXPERT MEDAL.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8)
CHEERS.!!!!!!!!

this may be a radical thing... but perhaps if more people were AFTER that war college ribbon, it would promote more team play and less point whoring selfishness... gasp. Too bad most of the point whores don't care, though I do like to think it will keep them up at night when they have all their little awards... but ONE! mooohahahaha I think the only reason the WC exists is to punish those who racked up all their awards by sacrificing their team. The guys who crash jets into choppers, the jihad jeepers (I only find this acceptable as a commander if my little martyr is taking out busloads of bad guys with each explosive, its simple ticket math), etc etc.

personally I think it would have just made a lot more sense to have the WC ribbon only take into account games you commanded in.

Last edited by dshak (2005-11-15 13:47:43)