Poll

Best Carry Handgun Caliber Ever???

.45acp28%28% - 69
.40 S&w7%7% - 19
10mm Auto2%2% - 7
9MM Luger (9mm Auto)12%12% - 30
.32 Acp0%0% - 0
9x18 Makarov0%0% - 2
.357 Mag/.38 Special8%8% - 21
.44 Mag/ .44 Special6%6% - 16
.45 Colt20%20% - 49
Other, Explain.11%11% - 28
Total: 241
Jaguar
Member
+2|6964

NasmNLH wrote:

Capt. Foley wrote:

Uhh, the military does not use .50 cal slugs. It uses, 9mm, 10mm and .45 as far as I know. .50 cal slugs have no practicle use.
It's true.  AFAIK the United States Military uses 9mm sidearms for the most part (the Beretta M9 in particular).  Supposedly some US Special Operations groups use .45 ACP pistols.  I've never heard anything about US Military Units using 10mm handguns though.
You are correct, the M9 Beretta is the current US sidearm, for now.  The US military is shifting, as a whole, back to the .45ACP.  This is due to the 9mm inability to actually stop attackers in combat.  Part of that has to do with the Geneva Accords prohibiting the use of Hollowpoint Ammunition.  Virtually all Special Operations Groups(SEALs, Green Berets, Force Recon's new Detachment 1, "Delta", etc) use .45ACP sidearms.  Not all do, in each of those groups, there is freedom of weapon selections, especially sidearms.  The most popular tend to be M1911, Sig P226 in 9mm, and Glock 9mms (G17, G19).  As far as i know, the only people who use H&K's Mark 23 .45 ACP are 'mall ninjas' or 'weekend warriors', civilians. 

I don't know and ANYone using 10mm anymore.  It was developed by/for the FBI, and they discovered that it didn't provide superior performance over other rounds.  In fact, it had such a bad habit of going THROUGH people, they dropped the round all together.  I do believe that S&W used the 10mm to later develop their .40S&W, since they are essentially the same bore-size, just different powder loads. 

The .50 pistol cartridge was developed as a hunting cartridge.  It is also a gimick.  The only thing a hunter would use it for, most likely, is a 'trail gun' in Bear country, tho large revolvers are better. 

No one in his or her right mind would carry a S&W 500 for defense, unless he is defending against a Grizzly bear.  First, the recoil BREAKS wrists, thumbs, and hands.  Second, the round cleaves straight through a person, and can kill an innocent.  It simply drills a half-inch wide hole in the person, and most of that extra energy that is break you hand, travels thru the person and is wasted.  Therefore, as a man stopper, SW 500 is no better than a .45ACP, maybe worse. 
Oh, on a side note, they make the 500, and the slightly smaller .460, in 'snub nose' models.....yeah.....

Last edited by Jaguar (2006-09-19 20:26:42)

ATG
Banned
+5,233|6920|Global Command
45 ACP for the win.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,068|7163|PNW

Since this thread is still alive, I'm going to say 9mm or .38. The type of ammo used is also critical. If you don't want to chance it going through people and and materials, fragmentary rounds are convenient, and a bit less-lethal than hollow-points (if you care about that sort of thing).

A .50 is definately gimmicky, but fun to shoot.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-09-20 22:36:58)

AlbertWesker[RE]
Not Human Anymore
+144|7035|Seattle, WA

T0X1C1TY wrote:

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

T0X1C1TY wrote:

.45 ACP, aka the Peacemaker of the west has enough stopping power to kill and is decently accurate in the right hands...
AKA the Peacemaker of the West??? Sorry dude the Peacemaker was originally chambered in .45LongColt or as it is more commonly known as the .45 Colt.  Quite different from the new cartridge that came abouts around 1911, the .45ACP.
Excuse me for the nubbedness I apologize for spread mt stupidity around but I was told that the Peacemaker was always a  .45 ACP
Than whoever told you was ON CRACK.
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7111|California

no one chose .32... lols
PspRpg-7
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+961|7089

stryyker wrote:

no one chose .32... lols
It's an ugly number.
.:XDR:.PureFodder
Member
+105|7221
Smaller holes make less dead people.
Jaguar
Member
+2|6964

.:XDR:.PureFodder wrote:

Smaller holes make less dead people.
Except when it comes to a .22LR
Damn! that's a lethal fking round.....just doesn't have a whole lot of 'stopping power'.....

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