How do you really feel though?...lol(T)eflon(S)hadow wrote:
QFE!Fancy_Pollux wrote:
Israel is doing what needs to be done, and what everyone else is afraid to do. There should be no pussy-footing around with a country that harbors terrorists.
All the rest of you are pussys! Along with those Muslim fanatic terrorists, some call men. Reach down and grab whats between your legs. Nothing there? Your a pussy.
According to your logic, half of Israel is an enemy of Israel. Way to go.Orion5413 wrote:
Any Muslim is an enemy of Israel
And again no response about the rest of the post is that the best you can do? would you like me to quote the Koran again?jonsimon wrote:
According to your logic, half of Israel is an enemy of Israel. Way to go.Orion5413 wrote:
Any Muslim is an enemy of Israel
Short one bat in the bell tower.
I could equally post (and have done several times) similarly ridiculous drivel from the so-called peaceful religions of christianity and judaism. The trick is in how the doctrine is interpreted and whether or not it should be treated metaphorically, etc. There are also references in the Q'uran to how christians and jews are fellow 'people of the book' and passages preaching tolerance for non-muslims. Nearly all religions are self-contradictory. The only true peaceful 'religion'? None whatesoever.Orion5413 wrote:
Why is there even a debate on this... Any Muslim is an enemy of Israel...I posted some of these on page 3 and asked on page 6 for an answer to these...So here we go again will any of the people here who think that hezbola is right please explain these surans? If Islam is about peace and love then why in the Koran it teaches that you must kill non believers? see below: Not one person has answered this....Come on its your book not my don't let me own you with it....Can it be that I am just posting the truth and the Muslims and their supporters have no answer for the truth...
9:33 He it is Who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the Religion of Truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religion, however much the idolaters may be averse.
9:73 O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end.
8:67 It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. Ye desire the lure of this world and Allah desireth (for you) the Hereafter, and Allah is Mighty, Wise.
9:5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
9:6 And if anyone of the idolaters seeketh thy protection (O Muhammad), then protect him so that he may hear the Word of Allah, and afterward convey him to his place of safety. That is because they are a folk who know not.
Orion, you want some nice out of context quotes from the Bible too? Here you go: www.evilbible.com. Hope there's enough in there for you.Orion5413 wrote:
And again no response about the rest of the post is that the best you can do? would you like me to quote the Koran again?jonsimon wrote:
According to your logic, half of Israel is an enemy of Israel. Way to go.Orion5413 wrote:
Any Muslim is an enemy of Israel
Short one bat in the bell tower.
Well,HM1{N} wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/04/mideast.main/index.html
I can now say with all certainty, f*&k Israel. They have taken away every instance of aid. They are blocking aid ships from docking. They are literally starving the people of Lebanon to force them to bend to Israeli will, and they are lying about what they are doing ONCE AGAIN.
Par for the course with that country.
Visit www.evilbible.com and rejoice in all the distorted quotes he has from the Bible, specially from the Old Testament. I don't need a copy-and-paste war with you to explain my point...Orion5413 wrote:
Not that I have read the bible or claim to Christan...post away...can you show me in bible where it says to kill the unconvertible? or something similar to 9.5?
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Perhaps if Israel stops opressing different arab peoples and stops bombing CIVILIAN targets and returns their kidnapped prisoners and ceases using human shields, hezbollah would.ncc6206 wrote:
You want Israel to quit starving the Lebs then give back the soldiers. Quit shooting rockets into CIVILIAN targets. Stop the random suicide bombers in CIVILIAN targets. Let Israel live in peace. Hezbollah started this and now Israel will finish it. Either the civilian population will die of starvation or Hezbollah will use them as human shields.
Sorry, but after logic that horrible I was unwilling to invest my time in reading your dribble.Orion5413 wrote:
And again no response about the rest of the post is that the best you can do? would you like me to quote the Koran again?jonsimon wrote:
According to your logic, half of Israel is an enemy of Israel. Way to go.Orion5413 wrote:
Any Muslim is an enemy of Israel
Short one bat in the bell tower.
9:33 - So Islam wants to convert people. Big shit. The Catholics converted all of europe forcibly.Orion5413 wrote:
9:33 He it is Who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the Religion of Truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religion, however much the idolaters may be averse.
9:73 O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end.
8:67 It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. Ye desire the lure of this world and Allah desireth (for you) the Hereafter, and Allah is Mighty, Wise.
9:5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
9:6 And if anyone of the idolaters seeketh thy protection (O Muhammad), then protect him so that he may hear the Word of Allah, and afterward convey him to his place of safety. That is because they are a folk who know not.
Hmmmmmmm, neither of those were the reasons given for starting the conflict, so do you care to explain how they would stop it? Also, have you got one example of a suicide bombing by Hezbollah in the current conflict? And since about 2/3rds of the kills by Hezbollah were soldiers, can you explain how this is targetting CIVILIANS?ncc6206 wrote:
Quit shooting rockets into CIVILIAN targets. Stop the random suicide bombers in CIVILIAN targets.
In fact, it started when Hezbollah kidnapped some soldiers, and at the time they stated that prisoner exchange was their primary motive. Now how would Israel have taken those prisoners? Could they maybe have done some kind of raid or set a trap, perhaps?http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/07/mideast.main/index.html?section=cnn_topstories wrote:
Monday was the 27th day of fighting. So far the conflict has resulted in 98 Israeli deaths, including 35 civilians, the IDF said; in Lebanon, security forces put the death toll at more than 715, most of them civilians.
jonsimon wrote:
I was unwilling to invest my time in reading your dribble.
Is the problem that you have with him because he's quoting the Koran in English? Is that the problem or that he's read a translation (which can't possibly be right can it, what with Arabic not translating 100% accurately) whilst the History Channel has told you differently?jonsimon wrote:
I like it when people claim they know what the Koran says, esspecially people who don't speak arabic.
Btw, I'm still waiting for the difference between other people being told what the Koran says (and being somehow thick because of it) and your being told about it (and your obvious enlightenment).jonsimon wrote:
And most people that claim the Koran says such and such, are merely regurgitating what someone else told them. What I know of the Koran I've learned from Arabs, my Mother who knows Arabic, and a History Channel special.
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Seeing as estimates place civilian casualties by the Israelis at between 80 and 90% (at least they did about a week ago, I haven't kept totally up to date), 30% civilian casualties by Hezbollah seems very reasonable.UnOriginalNuttah wrote:
Hmmmmmmm, neither of those were the reasons given for starting the conflict, so do you care to explain how they would stop it? Also, have you got one example of a suicide bombing by Hezbollah in the current conflict? And since about 2/3rds of the kills by Hezbollah were soldiers, can you explain how this is targetting CIVILIANS?ncc6206 wrote:
Quit shooting rockets into CIVILIAN targets. Stop the random suicide bombers in CIVILIAN targets.
I over generalized in my statements. What I should have said to better represent my argument was "I hate when people claim the Koran condones killing."Jainus wrote:
jonsimon wrote:
I was unwilling to invest my time in reading your dribble.Is the problem that you have with him because he's quoting the Koran in English? Is that the problem or that he's read a translation (which can't possibly be right can it, what with Arabic not translating 100% accurately) whilst the History Channel has told you differently?jonsimon wrote:
I like it when people claim they know what the Koran says, esspecially people who don't speak arabic.Btw, I'm still waiting for the difference between other people being told what the Koran says (and being somehow thick because of it) and your being told about it (and your obvious enlightenment).jonsimon wrote:
And most people that claim the Koran says such and such, are merely regurgitating what someone else told them. What I know of the Koran I've learned from Arabs, my Mother who knows Arabic, and a History Channel special.
This video managed to make it out, imagine all the ones that haven't.Bertster7 wrote:
Here's a little vid of Israelis doing just that - Killing civilians.
CBC Broadcast on IDF
Please stop thinking your dumbass comments deserve a response.Orion5413 wrote:
And again no response about the rest of the post is that the best you can do? would you like me to quote the Koran again?jonsimon wrote:
According to your logic, half of Israel is an enemy of Israel. Way to go.Orion5413 wrote:
Any Muslim is an enemy of Israel
Short one bat in the bell tower.
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I guess you have not ever heard of a group called hamas , the plo... they are all with their boarders...PRiMACORD wrote:
Please stop thinking your dumbass comments deserve a response.Orion5413 wrote:
And again no response about the rest of the post is that the best you can do? would you like me to quote the Koran again?jonsimon wrote:
According to your logic, half of Israel is an enemy of Israel. Way to go.
Short one bat in the bell tower.
You just told us that Israel's enemy includes 20% of it's own population, gj.
Kill Nonbelievers:Orion5413 wrote:
Not that I have read the bible or claim to Christan...post away...can you show me in bible where it says to kill the unconvertible? or something similar to 9.5? and as for the Muslims in Israel they are called the PLO, hamas and etc... I freely admit I don't know all of the terrorist organizations in Israel....
Hamas are Palestinian. The 20% i mentioned are not Palestinian.Orion5413 wrote:
I guess you have not ever heard of a group called hamas , the plo... they are all with their boarders...
You.Orion5413 wrote:
So now whom is more foolish you or me....
Unlike quotes from the koran, I'd say that's pretty straightforward.CameronPoe wrote:
Kill Nonbelievers:Orion5413 wrote:
Not that I have read the bible or claim to Christan...post away...can you show me in bible where it says to kill the unconvertible? or something similar to 9.5? and as for the Muslims in Israel they are called the PLO, hamas and etc... I freely admit I don't know all of the terrorist organizations in Israel....
"They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman." (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)