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2006-08-17 16:36:05
GotMex?
$623,493,674,868,715.98 in Debt
+193|7234

I was just reading about real law on wikipedia and I thought about something intersting in BF2 world. So I thought about two BF2 scenarios for "fun".

Say you want to get some knife/pistol action going and you join a server called "Karkand Knife Pistol only Ranked!". As soon as you're in, you see that everyone is playing normally with no weapon/vehicle restrictions. Rather than switching to find another such server, you say what the heck, lets do some regular gaming and you play a round there. Surely this would look sketch to anyone revising your recent gaming servers, but have you done anything wrong? What does the BFROE have to say about this?

Now, different scenario. You're playing Karkand on a normal "24/7 Karkand" server. You spot an enemy kind of distracted and you run towards him and try and knife him. He spots you though, but rather than finishing you off quickly, he pulls out his knife too. This then escalates to a knifing match between all the people around there. Then maybe everytime you see them, you pull out knife and go at it. Anything wrong happening here? Surely a couple of screenshots of this activity would not look too good for anyone. Yet are there rules against this?

I'm just curious to see what others think about these sort of situations. Particularly when anyone can take a few screenshots if they don't like you, report you to EA, and you might have a nice stats reset on your hands.

Last edited by GotMex? (2006-08-17 16:36:48)

2006-08-17 16:40:19
kilgoretrout
Member
+53|6942|Little Rock, AR
I'm farily certain that the ROE is only enforced if the admins on the servers are actively enforcing rules that are against the ROE (admins kicking for not playing P/K).  However, if you're playing on a server that the admins are enforcing those rules on, you're liable to be wiped.  At least, that's how I read the ROE.  I don't think it really matters what the server name is, the actions of the admins decide whether or not the server is in violation.  I could be wrong, though.
2006-08-17 16:42:41
destruktion_6143
Was ist Loos?
+154|7098|Canada
yes for the first one. not in statspadding but breaking the "sacred ROE", for even entering a k/p server.

no, b/c there r no restrictions on the server, you rnt limited to knifes or pistols, you choose to use them.
2006-08-17 16:46:29
Snowman111
Member
+2|7061
well the first (In my oppinion) does constitute a breech of the BF2 ROE, the second how ever does not. The second shows the option and choice in the decision of having a knife match. The 1st however gives the players no option. If you play normaly on one such server ( ie. use rifles/ vhicles) then you can be kicked. The ROE are meant to establish a set of rules to protect the gamers in the BF2 community from being targeted and penialized for playing the right way. If a player is kicked for "playing the right way" then the ranked server has breeched the ROE. There is a fine line between the two instances but the differance is one is spontanious and the players you not be kicked/ banned for "breaking up" the knife fight, where in a knife pistol server they would be punished and have their rights as a gamer ignored.
2006-08-17 23:56:32
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|7099|Warlord

GotMex? wrote:

Say you want to get some knife/pistol action going and you join a server called "Karkand Knife Pistol only Ranked!". As soon as you're in, you see that everyone is playing normally with no weapon/vehicle restrictions. Rather than switching to find another such server, you say what the heck, lets do some regular gaming and you play a round there.
No problem there.

GotMex? wrote:

Surely this would look sketch to anyone revising your recent gaming servers, but have you done anything wrong? What does the BFROE have to say about this?
It would look dodgy (actually happened to me recently and someone tried to use it as ammo!) but the required proof to get reset is some screenshots of the abuse actually happening and some additional evidence from what I've gathered from the forums (and it may require some pattern also for them to take action, impossible to know for sure).

If you had a dozen K&P servers in your recent server history and a suspicious amount of knife kills that may not even be enough as there are actually plenty of players that this is true for who still have their stats and play on these servers regularly.

GotMex? wrote:

Now, different scenario. You're playing Karkand on a normal "24/7 Karkand" server. You spot an enemy kind of distracted and you run towards him and try and knife him. He spots you though, but rather than finishing you off quickly, he pulls out his knife too. This then escalates to a knifing match between all the people around there. Then maybe everytime you see them, you pull out knife and go at it. Anything wrong happening here?
No. Yes this would look suspicious in a single screenie but let's be serious here, it's not likely to happen is it? Myself, if I saw four enemies with their knives out and I had an automatic weapon I'd be eight points richer pretty darned quick

Last edited by Todd_Angelo (2006-08-17 23:57:20)

2006-08-18 00:03:29
TrollmeaT
Aspiring Objectivist
+492|7144|Colorado
Depends on the eye of the beholder.
2006-08-18 00:06:44
GotMex?
$623,493,674,868,715.98 in Debt
+193|7234

TrollmeaT wrote:

Depends on the eye of the beholder.
What does your beholding eye say?

 

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