SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
+644|3987
Anyway, thoughts on the mid-terms? Blue wave wasn't as big as hoped but it still pretty much ended the legislative window for the GOP. The GOP might even lost a senate in Arizona of all places. After all is said and done the GOP might have made a total of +1 senate despite having an amazing electoral map.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|6953|United States of America
Based on 538's model which I'd been following, things went pretty close to what was expected. It seemed scary early in the night with Florida, Georgia, Indiana, and Tennessee going quickly in Republican directions. The goal for Dems was to get one hand on a lever of power, so they accomplished that at least. The early summer polls showing they had a real shot at the Senate became less plausible as election day neared, but even Trumpian Republicans could be pleased that they widened their Senate margin and, in general, moderate R's were frequently the seats picked off.
uziq
Member
+498|3720
the coverage over here emphasised that the moderate republicans are basically finished now, and those winning seats are increasingly trumpian. like the party has had to sign some sort of faustian pact to stay in power or something.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
+644|3987
FWIW, the progressive Sanders democrats also lost. The democrats did great in most of the places where they ran moderates. The GOP got wiped out in the suburbs. Democrats have a good shot at 2020 it seems.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|7043|Moscow, Russia

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Shahter wrote:

@zeek:
i'm pretty sure i never said i was looking for wisdom in first-person opinions of the likes of war man. and yes, i'm capable of finding out for myself whatever it is that gets pushed by the western propaganda mashine media. it's all the same now in the opinion columns out there and more often than not after reading a couple of opening statements i can easily tell what's to follow. it's kinda dissapointing, actually.
what's interesting for me is what actually sticks. that's why i'm interested in opinions of real people who don't have editors looking over their shoulder.
I think what's bugging me is your notion that a "first hand opinion" as you put it is somehow more valid because it isn't being paid for
"valid" is not the word i'd use. it's more useful for one who views the system from outside and wishes to understand its inner workings.

while at the same time admitting that these first hand opinions are influenced by the "system." How do you manage to reconcile this conundrum?
as i said above, i'm capable of reading news myself, what i don't have is war man's level of immersion in events which happen on the other side of the globe from where i am, in society and culture so vastly different from that i live in. social media doesn't help either, because it's fast becoming just another information manipulation tool. it's not enough to simply soak in the propaganda to get educated on matters like politics, one needs to ground that stuff in somekinda real life experience, and this fossil of a forum, interestingly, is better place for me to find actual opinions of actual people of whom i can be reasonably sure i know things, than, basically, anywhere else, because these people have been here exchanging opinions for so long.

Who should we trust more, a professional political analyst or some random angry meathead being spoonfed their opinions, devoid of critical thought, by a faux debate talk radio show hosted by someone basically playing a character? The first is paid for, and the second you can get whenever you look like someone who will offer an ear to disgruntled griping.
well, first, you definitely shouldn't trust anything pushed through your fucking media atm, imo. all the principals of honest and professional journalism have long been abandoned by them (that is if there were any to begin with).
and, second, as i said, i'm not simply looking for info, not really. imagine you are examining a mad house - would you actually be interested to know which napolen bonaparte in there has journalism degree?

Last edited by Shahter (2018-11-14 10:31:07)

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+564|6982|Purplicious Wisconsin
Well looks like the civil war in the democratic party is happening sooner than I anticipated. Ocasio-Cortez and many other progressives and far leftists just started attacking Pelosi. I'll be prepping some popcorn now.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|6953|United States of America
That's your takeaway from a leadership disagreement in a party that rebounded into some power from no power? It's not like any of them are going to flock to Trump to stick it to rightwing boogeyman Pelosi. You need to pop this bubble you're in, too, because you can guarantee not a single actual "far leftist" is in the US Congress. It's like how Republicans called Obama a socialist as the actual fringe US Socialist party kept saying "of course he isn't".
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,980|6900|949

war man is one of those "gotta pwn the libs!111!" types.  He'll actively vote against his interests as long as a democrat doesn't get elected.  It should be something to laugh at, but it's actually a sad indictment of current american politics
War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+564|6982|Purplicious Wisconsin

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

war man is one of those "gotta pwn the libs!111!" types.  He'll actively vote against his interests as long as a democrat doesn't get elected.  It should be something to laugh at, but it's actually a sad indictment of current american politics
How is voting against the anti-white, actual racist party against my interests?

Edit: not to mention vocal about cutting defense spending which leads to downsizings which means more harder to become a CO in the Army.

Last edited by War Man (2018-11-14 21:36:37)

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,815|6374|eXtreme to the maX
Red good! Blue bad! The choco ration has increased from 20 to 15 grams!

If spending is directed elsewhere wouldn't it be less more harder to become a CO in some other organisation?
Maybe an organisation that actually does something?
Fuck Israel
War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+564|6982|Purplicious Wisconsin

Dilbert_X wrote:

Red good! Blue bad! The choco ration has increased from 20 to 15 grams!

If spending is directed elsewhere wouldn't it be less more harder to become a CO in some other organisation?
Maybe an organisation that actually does something?
CO = Commissioned Officer, name a non-military organization that has CO's
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
uziq
Member
+498|3720

War Man wrote:

Well looks like the civil war in the democratic party is happening sooner than I anticipated. Ocasio-Cortez and many other progressives and far leftists just started attacking Pelosi. I'll be prepping some popcorn now.
you are deluded.
uziq
Member
+498|3720
it makes so much sense that war man is a fervent republican because he wants to be a CO. another anti-socialist anti-big government ‘patriot’ who can’t imagine a life for himself without the nourishing tit of the state.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,815|6374|eXtreme to the maX

War Man wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Red good! Blue bad! The choco ration has increased from 20 to 15 grams!

If spending is directed elsewhere wouldn't it be less more harder to become a CO in some other organisation?
Maybe an organisation that actually does something?
CO = Commissioned Officer, name a non-military organization that has CO's
Most places it means commanding officer, the public sector and business world have their equivalents.
Fuck Israel
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,815|6374|eXtreme to the maX

uziq wrote:

it makes so much sense that war man is a fervent republican because he wants to be a CO. another anti-socialist anti-big government ‘patriot’ who can’t imagine a life for himself without the nourishing tit of the state.
Free-market libertarians are always first in the queue for a govt handout.
Fuck Israel
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
+644|3987

uziq wrote:

the coverage over here emphasised that the moderate republicans are basically finished now, and those winning seats are increasingly trumpian. like the party has had to sign some sort of faustian pact to stay in power or something.
I read an article in the Never Trump conservative Weekly Standard they argued that the midterms were a big victory for Trump because it wiped out all internal GOP opposition to him. So he won't get anything through Congress but he will have the party defend him no matter what happens. He never cared about getting anything through Congress anyway.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|6953|United States of America
I'm still amazed that because one party isn't overwhelmingly comprised of white men (but still is majority of white people, especially in leadership) gets warped into being the "anti-white" one. I'd be pretty darn reticent if one of the plusses of a party I supported could be described as "pro-white".
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
+644|3987
The democrats nominated two white people for president and VP in 2016. I don't know how to spin that as anti-white.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,980|6900|949

Clearly war man lacks the capacity to critically think for himself, and instead regurgitates whatever drivel he hears from whatever news media he consumes.

War Man, you are an idiot and I hope for the sake of our armed forces that you are either never put into a leadership role, or you miraculously learn how to think for yourself before then.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5626|London, England

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Clearly war man lacks the capacity to critically think for himself, and instead regurgitates whatever drivel he hears from whatever news media he consumes.

War Man, you are an idiot and I hope for the sake of our armed forces that you are either never put into a leadership role, or you miraculously learn how to think for yourself before then.
He doesn't think for himself because he doesn't think like you? He votes against his own interest because he doesn't vote for the same team color as you? Leave the kid alone, you're the hypocritical douchebag with deep seated cognitive dissonance. Oohs I'm so edgy, I have the same leftwing ideas I had when I was a teenager even though I'm a corporate drone making a decent salary. If you weren't so hung up on being cool, even though you are approaching middle age, maybe you'd see that you are the one voting against your own interests. There's a reason the middle class is fleeing your one party state. It's too bad they are bringing the same dumb ideas that caused them to flee in the first place to their new states and infecting their local politics.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+564|6982|Purplicious Wisconsin

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Clearly war man lacks the capacity to critically think for himself, and instead regurgitates whatever drivel he hears from whatever news media he consumes.

War Man, you are an idiot and I hope for the sake of our armed forces that you are either never put into a leadership role, or you miraculously learn how to think for yourself before then.
Whatever NPC, I await for your program update from your left wing programmers. Maybe this time they will remove the asshole personality in your coding.


Edit

here's a song for you

Last edited by War Man (2018-11-15 16:44:41)

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
coke
Aye up duck!
+440|6977|England. Stoke

War Man wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Clearly war man lacks the capacity to critically think for himself, and instead regurgitates whatever drivel he hears from whatever news media he consumes.

War Man, you are an idiot and I hope for the sake of our armed forces that you are either never put into a leadership role, or you miraculously learn how to think for yourself before then.
Whatever NPC, I await for your program update from your left wing programmers. Maybe this time they will remove the asshole personality in your coding.


Edit

here's a song for you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5BRM2xr5N0
You're really not helping yourself with this...
Either way this is what American politics has seemingly become, god help us all.

Last edited by coke (2018-11-15 17:15:34)

DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|6953|United States of America
It doesn't help your case that you respond to the charge of regurgitating drivel by posting a forced 4chan meme from 2018. Even in spite of this forum being on life support, I am appalled that you made such a shitty caliber post in D&ST.
War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+564|6982|Purplicious Wisconsin

DesertFox- wrote:

It doesn't help your case that you respond to the charge of regurgitating drivel by posting a forced 4chan meme from 2018. Even in spite of this forum being on life support, I am appalled that you made such a shitty caliber post in D&ST.
And let me tell you it doesn't help your case using big words and sounding fragile. Also I don't give a damn, I've dealt with D&ST's bs for over a decade and learned to just let things go. As for the meme, you know it's true when people get so sensitive about it instead of just shrugging it off.

coke wrote:

War Man wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Clearly war man lacks the capacity to critically think for himself, and instead regurgitates whatever drivel he hears from whatever news media he consumes.

War Man, you are an idiot and I hope for the sake of our armed forces that you are either never put into a leadership role, or you miraculously learn how to think for yourself before then.
Whatever NPC, I await for your program update from your left wing programmers. Maybe this time they will remove the asshole personality in your coding.


Edit

here's a song for you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5BRM2xr5N0
You're really not helping yourself with this...
Either way this is what American politics has seemingly become, god help us all.
Hate to break it to you, but it isn't just in USA alone. You can thank PC culture for that. I've seen my own generation easily triggered by words, it is so fucking sad how emotionally weak people have become. Colleges more and more are pumping out such fragile people that don't accept other people's opinions. I've seen it myself in college, hell we are required to take some sexual assault/rape survey thing online now. If you don't, you can't sign up for future courses until taken. Sad thing is, everything in the survey is something that is common sense stuff that everyone already knows it's wrong.

Last edited by War Man (2018-11-15 17:45:59)

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
coke
Aye up duck!
+440|6977|England. Stoke
Yeah congrats you've ascended above "emotional weakness", and "triggering". Use that word in itself usually means you haven't got a fucking clue...

The fact you can't see the difference between "accepting other people's opinions" and the memes and hashtags you've just posted well, fuck me...

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