There's no law which says Europe or any country has to take in economic migrants.
I migrated legally under a government program thank you.
I migrated legally under a government program thank you.
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so did almost all of the EU workers who have received so much spleen and ire from brexiteers. let's not pretend that vast amounts of the xenophobia in places like south wales weren't directed at poles and other economic migrants who 'migrated legally'.
to a real australian, nevermind an aboriginal, you could be very well part of their 'problem'.
to a real australian, nevermind an aboriginal, you could be very well part of their 'problem'.
They 'migrated legally' thanks to the EU.
No more EU no more Poles migrating legally, dur.
No more EU no more Poles migrating legally, dur.
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so you'd be quite okay with australians leaving the commonwealth, getting rid of all those friendly legal agreements with the UK, and you becoming the focus of ire and resentment from the natives? well, so long as you're consistent and realize that you're a scab in someone else's country.
I'm a citizen now, I am a native, the locals are pleased to have me.
The last time I quit my job here they had to hire two people, one of whom was me, to replace me.
Thats how good I am.
The last time I quit my job here they had to hire two people, one of whom was me, to replace me.
Thats how good I am.
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yes, and large numbers of legal migrants settle down in their country of emigration too.
how strange that you can see your own life trajectory in good terms but can't accept that the same could happen for a pole or a pakistani.
how strange that you can see your own life trajectory in good terms but can't accept that the same could happen for a pole or a pakistani.
Have you met any pakistanis?
We had a pole at work, he was great, once he finished the task he was given he didn't bother you for another, he found something else to do himself - like go for a walk or a lie down in a quiet corner.
We had a pole at work, he was great, once he finished the task he was given he didn't bother you for another, he found something else to do himself - like go for a walk or a lie down in a quiet corner.
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i LIVED with a pakistani for two years. i've dated a pakistani, who works as an artist in my city. we are still good friends.
have YOU? you talk about them as if they're from another planet.
have YOU? you talk about them as if they're from another planet.
There isn't, but there are laws which prohibit unilateral deportations, which is a form of human trafficking really. That too is illegal Dilbert. Illegal migration goes both ways, we can't force other countries to accept people who are not citizens of those countries.Dilbert_X wrote:
There's no law which says Europe or any country has to take in economic migrants.
I migrated legally under a government program thank you.
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Thats exactly what the EU court did to Britain repeatedly, it pissed people off.Larssen wrote:
we can't force other countries to accept people who are not citizens of those countries.
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the conditions to meet legal refugee/asylum status are very strict, you're making out that everyone who comes across on a boat or turns up in italy has free passage to the UK because of EU duress. that's just not true.
But the process can be spun out over decades and once they have a kid or two its essentially impossible to get rid of them.
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So once again, the richer African nations allow free migration from the poorer ones, don't they?Dilbert_X wrote:
How is the African Union working out? Are African nations allowing free movement between them?
The South Africans freely share their gold and diamond wealth with Botswana don't they?
The Nigerians allow in as many Ghanaians in as want to come to share the benefits their oil wealth delivers don't they?
The African nations just want to be one big equal family, don't they?
Don't they?
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Ehm well the UK agreed in being part of the EU that ECJ rulings will be followed. So IF that happened, and I doubt it would be more than a handful of cases, that's what the UK agreed to when it joined the EU. Just like a national court overruling a regional one...Dilbert_X wrote:
Thats exactly what the EU court did to Britain repeatedly, it pissed people off.Larssen wrote:
we can't force other countries to accept people who are not citizens of those countries.
Well those are procedural issues. Why does a refugee have to wait upwards of a year for the first ruling on his/her asylum request? It's not their fault the system is slow as shit.Dilbert_X wrote:
But the process can be spun out over decades and once they have a kid or two its essentially impossible to get rid of them.
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The first ruling is quick, there's an endless appeals process all the way up to the ECJ.
Funny how all the other EU countries don't take in migrants or give them benefits if they don't feel like it, but the ECJ rammed it down the throat of the British every time.
Funny how all the other EU countries don't take in migrants or give them benefits if they don't feel like it, but the ECJ rammed it down the throat of the British every time.
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African nations don't allow free movement but their states are too weak to enforce that. So there is a lot of 'free movement' regardless.Dilbert_X wrote:
So once again, the richer African nations allow free migration from the poorer ones, don't they?Dilbert_X wrote:
How is the African Union working out? Are African nations allowing free movement between them?
The South Africans freely share their gold and diamond wealth with Botswana don't they?
The Nigerians allow in as many Ghanaians in as want to come to share the benefits their oil wealth delivers don't they?
The African nations just want to be one big equal family, don't they?
Don't they?
What is the relationship between the African Union and the EU dilbert? Two organisations that are completely different.
Besides nobody here hates Schengen. I like the fact that I can get in a car and drive to France without having to wait at a border crossing for hours. It's also good for business, allowing trucks to drive from one country to the next with no delay whatsoever bar traffic jams. You like efficiency don't you, how many hours of time do you think the EU27 save their businesses by allowing free movement?
This is complete BS dude. There are far more refugees in spain, greece and italy than ever arrived anywhere else in Europe. They too have been subjected to ECJ rulings.Dilbert_X wrote:
The first ruling is quick, there's an endless appeals process all the way up to the ECJ.
Funny how all the other EU countries don't take in migrants or give them benefits if they don't feel like it, but the ECJ rammed it down the throat of the British every time.
The appeals process is slow and cumbersome and needs to be changed. But I'm glad this is now the focus you're taking instead of just stating that refugees should die at sea or be smuggled back to another country. That's progress.
all refugees get off a boat, get given a council house, have 7 kids, quickly claim £100,000 a year, and spend their weekend free time sat in A&Es, stealing british people's heart transplants. it's basically a fact, just read the tabloids.
Well of course they don't, why would they?Larssen wrote:
African nations don't allow free movement
You're confusing free travel and free movement.Besides nobody here hates Schengen. I like the fact that I can get in a car and drive to France without having to wait at a border crossing for hours. It's also good for business, allowing trucks to drive from one country to the next with no delay whatsoever bar traffic jams. You like efficiency don't you, how many hours of time do you think the EU27 save their businesses by allowing free movement?
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Get this, a guy who frequently quotes Qanon stuff asked me today what Qanon was. Where did they get it? Facebook? Fox? Trump? A case of how far-reaching stupid stuff can really be. Wow (concluding word for larsson's benefit).DesertFox- wrote:
It is a pitiable and cringe-inducing sight to watch the inevitable. Apparently the new Qanon prediction is something is gonna happen on the 14th to show how it was all part of the plan. I also worry about the snap back to reality. There's been a lot of talk from the armed nutjobs that I don't envy the Secret Service going forward.
As an aside, I did end up on Reason after being linked an article tonight and some of the writers aren't complete fools, but the comments section is hilarious. There's a very small number of prodigiously posting libertarians calling each other sockpuppets and everything leftist.
All the time they spend on the internet though and they could have just looked it up …
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/09/us/p … etary.htmlDefense Secretary Mark T. Esper was fired by President Trump on Monday, the latest casualty in the president’s revolving door of top national security officials who fell on the wrong side of their boss.
Mr. Trump announced the decision on Twitter, saying in an abrupt post that Mr. Esper had been “terminated.”
Mr. Trump wrote on Twitter that he was appointing Christopher C. Miller, described by the president as the “highly respected” director of the National Counterterrorism Center, to be acting defense secretary. He will be the fourth man to lead the Pentagon under Mr. Trump, who made a point of noting that Mr. Miller has been approved by the Senate already.
Mr. Miller is a former Army Green Beret who previously served as the top counterterrorism policy official in the Trump White House’s National Security Council.
Mr. Esper’s downfall had been expected for months, after he took the rare step in June of disagreeing publicly with Mr. Trump and saying that active-duty military troops should not be sent to control the wave of protests in American cities. The president, who had threatened to use the Insurrection Act to do exactly that, was furious, officials said.
Ominous.
Is this just Trump settling grievances before leaving or is this him preparing for something more?
He was already on his way out, I believe I read somewhere during the vote counting that he offered his letter of resignation. So Trump simply accepted his resignation rather than firing him no?
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status … 1364364288
the intellectual lodestar of the movement. hahahah
the intellectual lodestar of the movement. hahahah
Jesus christ it's like extremist islamism in a western jacket.
you have to, and i mean HAVE TO, watch this total hack's movies. they are so funny.
d. w. griffith he fucking is NOT.
funnily enough, another trumper with a legal conviction (and another person pardoned by trump). amazing how many slime balls with extensive criminal records are taking up the 'moral crusade' against 'liberalism'.
d. w. griffith he fucking is NOT.
funnily enough, another trumper with a legal conviction (and another person pardoned by trump). amazing how many slime balls with extensive criminal records are taking up the 'moral crusade' against 'liberalism'.