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2025-06-05 02:42:43
Dilbert_X
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uziq wrote:

much has been written about techno-feudalism. advanced post-industrial economies in the west have reverted to a sort of rentierism rather than productive gains or growth.
Maybe its more like the pre-WW1 period, Amazon etc are too big and need to be broken up, likely war in Eastern Europe.
but those sort of changes are pretty well being spear-headed by the class you keep saying would do a better job: a coalition of nerds and billionaires
Still not hearing a workable alternative.
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2025-06-05 02:55:43
uziq
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yeah, sure, just ignore the century-long history of anything left of center. the only option? feudalism but with billionaire tech-oligarchs and their engineering sonderkommando.

2025-06-05 02:57:35
Dilbert_X
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I'm fine with any alternative - but it needs to work.

Could we put most people, who don't really contribute anything, in virtual reality pods and let the rest of us get on with stuff?
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2025-06-05 03:08:11
uziq
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you're a childless eunuch who seems to have spent most of his life investing in fossil fuels and developing defense systems for the military. you're practically Death incarnate.

it's always the weird and frustrated nerds who want to talk about eugenics and how the majority of people don't deserve to live, isn't it?
2025-06-05 03:10:07
Dilbert_X
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I didn't say they don't deserve to live, I think most people would be happier in a pod.
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2025-06-05 03:26:45
uziq
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you're in a pod !!!
2025-06-05 03:54:00
Dilbert_X
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Look at how many people give their life over to religion and tell me they wouldn't be happier in a pod.
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2025-06-05 04:30:16
uziq
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i think you overestimate the extent to which ordinary religion warps people and vastly underestimate the extent to which ‘secular’ ideologies can fuck up the planet with their own delusions.

your average god-fearing middle american is probably less of a risk to the planet than a techno-futurist like thiel. the cold war and nuclear armageddon weren’t religious affairs.

technologists entertain all sorts of ‘pod-like’ illusions and comforts about the world and their place in it.

is an atheistic consoomer society in which the majority live in pods with marvel movies being projected in front of their eyes, saving up for luxury baubles, better than one structured by faith?

all the ‘role models’ that the tech and engineering world thrust forward seem to have a very shaky grasp of what constitutes a good and fulfilling life. thiel and musk seem plainly satanic.

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2025-06-05 07:00:16
Dilbert_X
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uziq wrote:

iis an atheistic consoomer society in which the majority live in pods with marvel movies being projected in front of their eyes, saving up for luxury baubles, better than one structured by faith?
I'm suggesting putting the people with 'faith' into the pods.
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2025-06-05 09:56:02
uziq
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the point you’re missing is that almost everyone operates on a default network of unexamined assumptions that are indistinguishable from ‘faith’ as you construe it.

as if your average ‘atheist’ is any less likely to support a genocidal war based on made up ideological bumpf or nationalistic chest-beating.

ranting about faith in 2025 is really so corny and dawkins-coded.

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2025-06-05 10:35:46
unnamednewbie13
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i suspect this is all very tongue-in-cheek, but how exactly would the pod bureaucracy work?

  • could you trust politician on the same wavelength as trump to not simply sign an executive order to cut funding to pod upkeep? what happens to people when the virtual life they built for 30 years collapses around them and they wake up in 2060? would a support system to get them back on their feet be too touchy-feely, and therefore also defunded?
  • should pod-prisoners be wary of having their real-life water forcibly extracted from their bodies while they're in the middle of an important errand in their pod life? mummified alive while trapped in vr.
  • who decides who gets to be put into pods? can you buy your way out of a pod?
  • what if someone from your targeted demographic doesn't want a pod life? is there an enforcement wing of various world pod departments and ministries? are you podded at gunpoint?


etc etc

how about we redefine what makes a worthwhile and contributing life instead? i think the time of basing your value on how much money the wealthy elite can extract from (or beat out of) you has long since curdled. even the greatest generation was jaded and tired of being exploited by corporate executives.
2025-06-05 10:43:33
SuperJail Warden
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This place is a time capsule to 2005. It is fitting that people here are dunking on the fundies as if Bush is still president.

We are old. Barreling towards 40. The kids are all about removing the woke from video games and T.V.

I can't take any of that seriously by the way. I can't sit down and play story based video games for long periods of time. Stuff just doesn't engross me anymore.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQZXKd9E8gVajYxIzN1ZS0KLZxqcBKs9O7ghA&s
I think I played 7 hours of this.

Also the games are getting too long. You can't say "Games are too long these days" without getting death threats though. The real cancel culture.

https://www.avclub.com/game-theory-vide … elden-ring
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
2025-06-05 11:00:37
unnamednewbie13
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where are you seeing this cancel culture? "games are too padded," "I never finish my games anymore," "i do a few side quests and never get to the end" like your link exist to the tune of a proportionally large number of replies in agreement, bethesda or ubi jaunts frequently cited. so yes you're still allowed to have the opinion that you'd like to see a conclusion to a game story sometime in this century without having to hunt 5 dire rats or space weevils with each new population center you reach? "here's another 40 miles of reused assets to traverse! 3 hour story is now 500!" "for instant gratification, buy some peencoin to skip these incremental aggravations."

in addition, "too many games, too little time," see also: books, hobby crafts. funny watching gAmErS develop that sense over the years.

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2025-06-05 14:27:53
SuperJail Warden
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"The Trump-Musk Feud: A Timeline"

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/the … -timeline/

Good stuff
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
2025-06-05 14:32:12
SuperJail Warden
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

where are you seeing this cancel culture? "games are too padded," "I never finish my games anymore," "i do a few side quests and never get to the end" like your link exist to the tune of a proportionally large number of replies in agreement, bethesda or ubi jaunts frequently cited. so yes you're still allowed to have the opinion that you'd like to see a conclusion to a game story sometime in this century without having to hunt 5 dire rats or space weevils with each new population center you reach? "here's another 40 miles of reused assets to traverse! 3 hour story is now 500!" "for instant gratification, buy some peencoin to skip these incremental aggravations."

in addition, "too many games, too little time," see also: books, hobby crafts. funny watching gAmErS develop that sense over the years.
You are probably right about there being too many open world games. Bethesda is often good. I would like to get lost in a Fallout 5. (I just hope no base building or PvP.)

I would probably get a Fallout 5 ultra deluxe nonsense.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
2025-06-06 03:05:47
Dilbert_X
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

i suspect this is all very tongue-in-cheek, but how exactly would the pod bureaucracy work?

could you trust politician on the same wavelength as trump to not simply sign an executive order to cut funding to pod upkeep? what happens to people when the virtual life they built for 30 years collapses around them and they wake up in 2060? would a support system to get them back on their feet be too touchy-feely, and therefore also defunded?
You can trust me
should pod-prisoners be wary of having their real-life water forcibly extracted from their bodies while they're in the middle of an important errand in their pod life? mummified alive while trapped in vr.
Of course not, see above. Also calling them prisoners will be a serious offence, punishable by being put in a pod - which isn't a punishment.
who decides who gets to be put into pods? can you buy your way out of a pod?
what if someone from your targeted demographic doesn't want a pod life? is there an enforcement wing of various world pod departments and ministries? are you podded at gunpoint?
It will be a completely free decision to enter a pod.
Certain groups will be rounded up, put into camps, deprived of food and machine-gunned from tanks as they queue for food, they will be able to voluntarily enter a pod at any time if they choose to entirely of their own free will.
Once in a pod they will not know they are in a pod

how about we redefine what makes a worthwhile and contributing life instead? i think the time of basing your value on how much money the wealthy elite can extract from (or beat out of) you has long since curdled. even the greatest generation was jaded and tired of being exploited by corporate executives.
This is socialist talk - enjoy the rest of your life in a pod.
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