Jay wrote:
uziq wrote:
another dumb shit with a few textbooks under his arm and a few undergraduate seminar ideas. cybargs you are missing the whole point of the above exchange. Macbeth isn't saying the government should have free license to tax everything and cause economic mayhem and cause problems with liquidity. thanks for waving your otiose economics knowledge in this thread.
the point is that jay is your TYPICAL, bog standard, small-minded chump. he took tax money freely and depended on public subsidy when he most needed it; now he's accumulated and acquired a little himself, his reading list has changed, he's made the excuses and rationalised his behaviour to himself with faux-noble, soi disant bullshit, and now he's rallying against 'why should i give up the fruits of my labour hurr durr'. this is what every selfish bastard starts to say when they near 40 and start shitting out little brats. jay is anxious. he wants to send his kids to private school and to leap up the ladder into the respectable upper-middle class. in fact, he's greedy for it. he wants to cheat. he doesn't want to pay back into the system that helped him immensely when he was a lost little kid from a blue-collar neighbourhood with no father to put him through private school.
this is a depressing picture that is as old as taxation itself. dress up his time spent mooching in the military as 'public service' and then use it as a false form of credential to basically discredit the very idea of public service. a republic made up of this sort of 'citizen' is venal and pathetic.
Actually, no, I don't. My town doesn't offer pre-k so I have to pay out of pocket. My kids will attend public school otherwise.
And I actually grew up in an nice if modest neighborhood past the age of 8. My dad sucks, yes, but my stepfather put food on the tabe and provided for us. My parents were able to help my brothers through college, it was just too much when I was going and they had three other kids to support. I get it now.
You guys need to stop with this whole military is public assistance schtick, it's really insulting to a lot of people who have sacrificed a portion, or all, of their life to defend your country. I'm not saying to worship veterans, but blatant disrespect just because you think you're scoring points or trolling on an Internet forum is gross. You're really not bothering me with it, I just don't want to see you actually start believing it and then make the mistake of voicing it in public. But hey, what do I know, instead of getting mad they might just laugh at your scrawny body and know that deep down you're jealous that your heroism never extended past a TF3 arena.
tf3? also lol, 'my scrawny body'. yes, jay, my highlighting of your bullshit attitudes ultimately stems from embarrassment about my physique. you deluded fatarse.
and don't lecture me on 'heroism'. my cousin is an officer in the royal marines – one of the hardest units to get into in the world as far as training goes. i've seen what commitments he made, yes, but 'heroism'? what's heroic about volunteering for a career that, in full cognisance and self-interest, one knows will take care of you for life? he joined the military as an officer because he wanted to gain some technical qualifications and career skills that would take care of him later in life. more importantly, he wanted discipline. he wanted meaning. most young men go through an existential agony, and are full of rage and impotent frustration; some of them end up joining the military, which has provided a stable institutional framework for their lives for as long as professional armies have been a thing. don't lecture me on 'heroism'. people join the military because it's a job. more than that, it's a stable career that comes with dozens of perks that a regular job wouldn't. these people aren't being conscripted and sent to the somme. they're making a calculated decision. i see about as much heroism as someone signing up for med school.
just drop the high ideals schtick and admit, much as most other soldiers would in a very prosaic and banal way, that they joined the military because their life was in a deadend and they needed a way out. that was you when you enlisted. you're not a fucking hero.
